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California Gas Prices Reach $5 In Some Areas
KSBW-TV ^ | November 7, 2007

Posted on 11/08/2007 10:37:56 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Perdogg

I guess you could say that it serves us ALL right for electing a lot of “WOOSES”in D.C.!Why(when The Republicans held both houses/White House)didn’t they get something done about our energy problems?Why didn’t they get W’s tax-cuts out of”the sunset”??


41 posted on 11/08/2007 12:20:36 PM PST by bandleader
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yep.. something like 80 blends


42 posted on 11/08/2007 1:29:49 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: All
From my "Sticker Shock- $3 a gallon gas?" file...

I have covered, ( Or, as Seamole puts it... -backhoe's pseudoblog--... ) pseudo-blogged, these issues for years, so allow me to drop out of Lurk and Link mode for a rare bit of commentary-- we all need to get serious about our dependency on foreign sources of energy, and use our own resources.

Our consumer-based economy is driven by and dependent upon readily-available, reliable energy-- choke that off, and we'll all be back to using one rotary dial phone in the dining room, watching one TV in the living room, and driving one car per family-- probably a Hudson Hornet or a Nash Metropolitan...







We need to

1) end the nonsensical ban on offshore drilling off California and Florida--read and weep:


Castro Plans to Drill 45 Miles from US Shores, But We Can't

2) build a lot of next-generation nuclear power plants, not just for electricity, but for any process requiring heat, power, or steam.
And if we replaced our existing nuclear plants with
this one there would be significant benefits.

3) end Jimmy Carter's idiotic ban on recycling nuclear waste, and reprocess the stuff rather than fighting over where to bury it. Europe has done this for decades.-- what to do with spent nuclear fuel? Answer here:

 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1468321/posts?page=50#50

hattip: Mike (former Navy Nuclear Engineer)

4) use the 300-500 years worth of coal we have on our own land, using the new clean-coal technology.
-Clean Coal Centre--

5) and finally, there's nothing wrong with conservation, we should all practice it- but you can't conserve your way out of a shortage. Nor is there anything wrong with "alternative" energy sources- except they don't supply the vast ( not to mention readily-available ) amounts of power we need at a price competitive to more conventional sources. Then again, there is this to ponder:


Energy From the Gulf Stream
http://www.energy.gatech.edu/presentations/mhoover.pdf


Not to mention, this new idea:


Irish Ready To Harness Tidal Power






We do need to get serious about this before we get strangled by a bunch of petty thieves and dictators who don't like us much.

My collection of energy-related links:

Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Click the picture:


And kindly note, and note well-- the first reply to this post ( when gas was $1.45 a gallon ) was derisive... so, who's laughing now?

( And, to honk my own horn, here is a comment from another board on this subject: )

I happened to be going through a post by "backhoe" and followed his link to a thread he posted on 3-17-04. Pretty good thread titled "Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Some links" that was prophetic, and what do you know, the first reply was Why don't you stop panicking and solve problems that exist posted by "XXX" Backhoe has some very good posts, he mostly lurks and when he does post it is worth the read. From the reply that"XXX" made he appears to be something of a corn-fed kneejerker, even more so with two years to prove how right "backhoe" was.



Vest-Pocket Summary:

1- drill for gas and oil like crazy- onshore, offshore, and in Alaska
2- go nuclear for power
3- convert stationary plants to clean coal technology or Next-Gen Nuclear
4- slash taxes and regulations like crazy...



43 posted on 11/08/2007 3:57:47 PM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: Badeye
Check out Chantix. Every smoker I know that has used it was successful in quitting. Including my 20 year old son. It takes about a week for the initial low dose to block the pleasurable dopamine release from smoking. My wife's supervisor just started it last week. She walked outside for a smoke break, lit it up and realized she really didn't want it any more. Short and final smoke break.
44 posted on 11/08/2007 3:58:43 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: mvpel
My neighbor just ditched his Excursion sized SUV for a Honda Accord Hybrid. He hasn't had it long enough to get any good stats yet. My Mercury Mariner Hybrid (2008) is averaging 28.5 MPG. It isn't as good in summer months when I'm running the air conditioning. Once it cools off, the hybrid really shines.
45 posted on 11/08/2007 4:01:57 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
gorda.... well, what's the price of pot....FOB field?

who cares about gas, when grass is the commodity of choice in this community?

46 posted on 11/08/2007 5:35:32 PM PST by pointsal (q)
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To: Realism

Actually I have cut back dramatically. I suspect it will affect the GDP eventually.


47 posted on 11/09/2007 5:31:52 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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To: ravingnutter

but I have been smoke free for 15 weeks now using that new prescription pill Chantix and have talked to many people that have quit using that. It’s expensive...$104 for the 1 month starter pack, but it is worth it in the long run. I was able to quit after only three weeks on it and I had smoked for 41 years. The only downside is you have to take it with food or it will make you extremely nauseous. I quit because they were talking about increasing the Federal tax by $1/pack.

Thanks for sharing this. If the patch doesn’t get it done this time, thats my next step.

Congrats on the fifteen week mark, btw.


48 posted on 11/09/2007 5:33:09 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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To: Myrddin

Thanks, if this doesn’t work, I’ll try it.


49 posted on 11/09/2007 5:37:44 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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