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Federal Liabilities Now Equal $175,000 for Every American
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Posted on 11/08/2007 8:06:21 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
OK, if I come with 175K now, can I get a receipt stamped “Paid in Full” and an exemption from all future taxation? ;)
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:09:34 AM PST
by
Mr. Jeeves
("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
To: Sub-Driver
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:09:38 AM PST
by
VOA
To: Sub-Driver
I would happily pay-off my (and my wife and 3 kids) share if they would let me and then tell the guvmint “leave me the hell alone alone.”
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:09:42 AM PST
by
MarkT
To: Sub-Driver
So, with an average life expectancy of 80, that's $6 a day for the most powerful defense establishment in the world - or 4% of the average American's income.
Not a bad deal.
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:11:06 AM PST
by
wideawake
(Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
To: Sub-Driver
Hillary Clinton says that's too cheap. We need MORE entitlements! And she promises we will get them as soon as she's elected President.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:11:11 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: Sub-Driver
Does this number factor in illegals? Are they paying their share of the burden as well?
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:12:49 AM PST
by
rineaux
(How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
To: Sub-Driver
Doesn’t the value of the U.S. governments holdings have to be figguerd in to come up with the debt we all own?
IMHO this number doesn’t mean anything without that.
For example, the government owns 90% of the land in Idaho. Since we the people own all that real estate, wouldn’t that go into the positive column?
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:13:51 AM PST
by
babygene
(Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
To: Sub-Driver
In addition to this debt, which represents money the federal government has already spent, the government also faces a gap between the projected revenue expected from the current tax structure and the spending that will be required to cover promised benefits in Social Security, Medicare, Veterans Administration and other entitlement programs."If these items are factored in," Walker said in his report, "the total burden in present value dollars is estimated to be about $53 trillion. Stated differently, the estimated current total burden for every American is nearly $175,000; and every day that burden becomes larger."
So this means expected benefits over and above current taxes are $157,500. I wonder why he didn't mention the other side of the equation? LOL!
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:17:41 AM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
To: Sub-Driver
$175 - liability. That’s for EVERY American, or every WORKING American? Does my liability go up if we subtract the nonworkers for whatever reason?
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:19:44 AM PST
by
LilRhody
To: Sub-Driver
How is this number derived? My math must be off, because I calculate $30,000. I used 9 trillion dollars divided by 300 million people. Where did I go wrong?
Still a lot of money, but better than $175,000.
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:21:29 AM PST
by
marvlus
To: marvlus
He adds the money we won’t have to cover Social Security, etc.
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:23:24 AM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
To: babygene
I agree unless you consider the assets this number means nothing.
How much is the Interstate highway system worth? Let’s sell the Capitol!
The liabilities number is worthless unless you consider assets.
A more important number that the current debt is the current value of future liabilities (SS or Medicare). Now that number is really big. I expect the gov. to default on a portion of this liability (means testing for SS and the like).
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:30:33 AM PST
by
NeilGus
To: wideawake
True, assuming no additional expenditures besides those presently promised. Also true: Graduating high school students who begin to work at 18 owe just about $40k just for turning 19. Welcome to American Adulthood!
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:32:27 AM PST
by
coloradan
(Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
To: Sub-Driver
It sounds like he could come up with any number he wants, because he is apparently adding in the anticipated future shortfall in entitlement programs. If so, it’s just a question of how many years of future shortfall he elects to include in his calculations.
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:41:04 AM PST
by
NECAWA
To: Sub-Driver
Somebody’s gonna pay for that...
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:42:19 AM PST
by
azhenfud
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: Mr. Jeeves
“OK, if I come with 175K now, can I get a receipt stamped Paid in Full and an exemption from all future taxation? ;)”
I could handle it but it would almost clean out my money market account.
If I had to rebuild it with what I wouldn’t pay in federal taxes I wouldn’t be half way there before I was dead.
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:44:27 AM PST
by
dalereed
To: Sub-Driver
What are federal assets (e.g. land) per capita?
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posted on
11/08/2007 8:58:56 AM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: Sub-Driver
Don’t worry, folks, inflation will make that number insignificant in a few years ...
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posted on
11/08/2007 9:57:05 AM PST
by
cinives
(On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
To: Sub-Driver
The feds collect that amount from me every 2 years in income taxes. Apparently I'm paying other people's share as well.
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posted on
11/08/2007 12:22:12 PM PST
by
Myrddin
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