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Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani
The Politico ^ | November 7, 2007 | Mike Allen

Posted on 11/07/2007 5:51:19 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

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To: SubGeniusX

You mean the cancer was a manufactured lie to avoid a political loss?


161 posted on 11/07/2007 9:46:13 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

bfl


162 posted on 11/07/2007 9:47:07 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: tear gas

Hillary is more of a man? Are you kidding me? This is a woman who basically has let herself be walked all over humiliated in front of the entire world all for the chance at some power. If that’s what you define being a man, I feel sorry for you.

You are truly off your rocker putting up Hillary as more manlike... she has ZERO spine, and always has.

I swear some peoples grasp on reality is less than tenuous.


163 posted on 11/07/2007 9:48:01 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The reason Giuliani won’t get my support is his involvement in the NAFTA superhighway. Google “Giuliani Mexico Highway” for lots of links. That plus his sanctuary city record tells me he is an open borders candidate.


164 posted on 11/07/2007 9:48:51 AM PST by IM2MAD
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To: yellowhammer

Who’s left on it? I’m really interested.....


165 posted on 11/07/2007 9:54:43 AM PST by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: rintense

Yes I do believe that Rudy will nominate judges that are constutitutionalist in nature, and I guarandamntee Hitlery will not. She’s already stated any judge who does not support Roe V Wade will not be presented PERIOD!

You are indeed stuck on stupid if you think Hitlery is going to advance your cause one iota. She, unlike her husband who was simply a narcicist, is an Socialist Idealogue. She’s a true believer, Bubba was just an opportunist. She believes and subscribes to the mantras of Saul Alinski and the Socialist world view... She is the single most dangerous candidate in the race, and no one, no one on the R side of the isle, regardless of where they stand is remotely as dangerous to the causes you claim to hold dear than Hitlery. Because Hitlery will stack every level of the federal courts with socialist ideologues... it won’t just be the Supreme Court, but all federal courts.

Not liking Rudy is one thing, but to claim that hes worse or no better than Hitlery is well frankly, stupid is too kind... moronic is a better term.

Robertson gave his endorcement to Rudy... do you think that Robertson got nothing out of it? Are people here really that freaking ignorant or naive? Politics is about negotiating and practicality. I guarantee Robertson got a pledge from Rudy on something to get that endorcement, most likely I’d bet it was regarding judicial appointments. This is a good thing for the general cause, but of course understanding this might just be too complex for you.


166 posted on 11/07/2007 9:55:25 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

No the reality is Giuliani and his molster priests and his liberal policies are the less than tenuous realities.


167 posted on 11/07/2007 9:56:04 AM PST by ridge
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To: Colofornian

The republic party is not about to become a Pro-Abortion party... There is no movement to remove the plank and to suggest that there is is nonsense.

I know its hard for you to grasp, but not every person in the party or elected to position with an R beside their names (or D for that matter) marches lock step with the platform. However when you have one that doesn’t that doesn’t mean the platform has changed.

Roe V Wade even if 100% overturned does not END abortion, this is another concept some of you seem to not understand. It simply removes it from the federal jurisdiction, which BTW Congress could have done at ANY time... Yes, Congress can remove ANY issue from the perview of the court... Just like they did Reconstruction. We had a Republican congress and a republican Senate for over a decade, and not once was this even brought up.

If the party is so Anti-Abortion in its day to day actions why wasn’t this by the stroke of a pen removed from the perview of the court? Hmmmm?

Politics is pragmatic...Rhetoric is not. What you and others continue to offer is Rhetoric, not practicle and pragmatic realities.


168 posted on 11/07/2007 10:00:47 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

What does that mean “constitutionalist”? Ginsberg and other legal wonks intend to use constructions like the 13th Amendment to argue for abortion. “Constitutionalist” is exceptionally irrevelant as the left adapts to the tactics of Scalia.

Giuliani spent his career dancing in the streets with NARAL. He campaigned for Cuomo and against Republican fiscal policy. His career is one big overblown exageration. And I think that after Kerik, no way, are you going to tell me that Giuliani has some lock on competency.


169 posted on 11/07/2007 10:00:58 AM PST by ridge
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To: HamiltonJay
Here's your "man" -

Rudy the draft-dodger:

Details regarding Rudy's draft dodging can be found here: http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/30661/

Rudy the doll:

Hillary is much tougher than your "man." She will mop the floor with him. Hillary's file on Rudy is probably several inches thick. We can't go into a general election with Rudy.

Tell everyone why you want such a "man" to serve as our Commander in Chief.

170 posted on 11/07/2007 10:02:18 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: HamiltonJay

“Roe V Wade even if 100% overturned does not END abortion...”

Duh, so we should reward a pro-abortionists with the government policy and the bullhorn?


171 posted on 11/07/2007 10:02:46 AM PST by ridge
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

His endorsement is meaningless, except for a one day news cycle keeping Guiliani’s name in the at the top and bottom of each hour.


172 posted on 11/07/2007 10:03:58 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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To: Jagman
Great, Pat: Now go legpress that two tons again...

He should try 20 tons.

173 posted on 11/07/2007 10:10:10 AM PST by M203M4 (The Tancredo, Thompson, and Hunter wing of the party - preventing the Rs from Whigging out.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Except that until recently Rudy refused to condemn partial birth abortion - that is the line for many of us.


174 posted on 11/07/2007 10:10:27 AM PST by juliej (Vote GOP!)
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To: Badeye

Robertson is very influential among many, many religious conservatives.


175 posted on 11/07/2007 10:10:35 AM PST by aligncare (no sarc tag necessary)
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To: HamiltonJay
The republic party is not about to become a Pro-Abortion party... There is no movement to remove the plank and to suggest that there is is nonsense.

Hey, just 'cause there wasn't "any movement" on D.C. or even CA when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor doesn't mean our country wasn't threatened.

Roe V Wade even if 100% overturned does not END abortion, this is another concept some of you seem to not understand.

I understand this perfectly well. Abortion was a legal reality in NY, Colorado & Hawaii well before Roe v. Wade came along.

..which BTW Congress could have done at ANY time... Yes, Congress can remove ANY issue from the perview of the court... Just like they did Reconstruction.

Only in theory. You underestimate the power of the judiciary, which Congress has not seen free to hold in check in any recent decade.

Politics is pragmatic...Rhetoric is not. What you and others continue to offer is Rhetoric, not practicle and pragmatic realities.

Well, you're right in one sense. Pre-born babies are pragmatically killed on a daily basis, whatever rhetoric is fired overhead.

176 posted on 11/07/2007 10:12:12 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: JohnnyZ

I believe that Romney has changed on the life issue - remember, we win when people change their minds - rudy, however, is another story!


177 posted on 11/07/2007 10:13:20 AM PST by juliej (Vote GOP!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I’m not buying it.


178 posted on 11/07/2007 10:15:00 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: HamiltonJay

I was told that it was Hillary who told Bill to veto the bill banning partial birth abortion - that he wanted to sign it. Hillary is a hard left ideologue.


179 posted on 11/07/2007 10:16:33 AM PST by juliej (Vote GOP!)
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To: Colofornian

And the slaugher of babies will guaranteed continue unabated for at least 20-40 more years if Hitlery is elected.

4-6 supreme court justices will be appointed by the next president.

To claim if your guy doesn’t win the nomination that you will work to defeat them, which ensures Hitlery is the president means you are working toward ensuring the slaughter of 1.2 BILLION more children at a minimum. Let alone every other social conservative policy you desire or support.

There is no way you can claim to support social conservatism and then hand the presidency to Hitlery. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is not going to accomplish anything.

Whoever the R nominee is, gets the support. If you decide to not do that, then I fully expect you to delete your accounts here, and keep your mouths shut about everything that Hitlery will do to this nation for the next 8 years, and the decades beyond her policies will influence.

You work to win the nomination, if you win great, if you lose, you fought a good fight and you support the nominee.


180 posted on 11/07/2007 10:18:13 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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