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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fred had no coherent answer on abortion. He hemmed and hawed and hawed and hemmed. In the end he meekly said the killing could go on. He said he was personally against it but could understand and accept why some people (states) might be for it.

C'est la vie! (Or is it "c'est le mort"?)

11 posted on 11/04/2007 7:08:41 PM PST by JCEccles (Fred Thompson is to abortion and gay marriage what Neville Chamberlain was to fascism)
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To: JCEccles
Did you even read the transcript or watch the show? I thought Fred was pretty straight-forward; it sounds like you just didn't like what he was saying. FredThompsonNews
13 posted on 11/04/2007 7:11:48 PM PST by jaybeegee
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To: JCEccles

Actually Fred’s postion on this issue is the one I have held for years. Naturally, I think it is logical, sensible, and defensible.

I really like the way Fred put it; something to the effect that people are free to enact laws that even Fred Thompson doesn’t like. Speaking for myself, there are PLENTY of laws that legislatures have enacted that I don’t like.

What you and folks like you need to reconcile yourselves to is that we Americans don’t live in a dictatorship, and what’s more, we don’t want to. All an individual can do is to be just and well-considered in his own time. Fred has complied a 100% pro-life voting record. Fred has clearly described his own views on abortion, and pre-natal life.

He also believes in the power of state legislatures to act on behalf of the people of their states to enact laws that he does not approve of.

Or that you don’t approve of. That seems to be your big beef. I’d suggest that you might consider that you are only one of 200 million plus. You don’t get to decide things all by yourself.

Neither does a President, even one that might be named Fred Thompson.


16 posted on 11/04/2007 7:26:58 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: JCEccles
Fred had no coherent answer on abortion. He hemmed and hawed and hawed and hemmed. In the end he meekly said the killing could go on. He said he was personally against it but could understand and accept why some people (states) might be for it.

This coming from a Slick Willard supporter??


23 posted on 11/04/2007 7:41:23 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (John Cox 2008: Because Duncan Hunter just isn't obscure enough for me!)
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To: JCEccles

He did not say that.

You said that.


50 posted on 11/04/2007 8:51:04 PM PST by altura (Fear the Fred)
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To: JCEccles
You obviously are a one-trick pony.

Life is more complicated that that.

Please get a clue.

Or take your ball and go home. We won't miss you.

68 posted on 11/04/2007 10:08:52 PM PST by rebel_yell2
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To: JCEccles
"Look, if Fred Thompson isn’t pro-life enough for social conservatives, then nobody short of Mike Huckabee is."

Fred has a 100% pro-life voting record.
126 posted on 11/05/2007 3:24:36 AM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: JCEccles

John Hawkins, Right Wing News, Duncan Hunter supporter:

“I don’t find Thompson’s position on this issue to be troubling. To the contrary, it’s actually a little reassuring in a roundabout way (Pay close attention to this next paragraph or you’ll get confused).”

“Let me tell you why: since we can’t get a constitutional ban on abortion passed, we lose nothing if Thompson gets elected and doesn’t support it. That being said, it would have been politically advantageous for him, with social conservatives, to say that he supports the Amendment. The fact that he isn’t supporting it is another strong indication that he means what he says about Federalism. That’s great news for people who are pro-life, because it means he will likely keep his promise to appoint an originalist judge who respects the Federalist principles in the Constitution and any such judge would certainly vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.”

“Granted, if Thompson said he supported the Constitutional Amendment, it would also be another indicator he was going to appoint a judge who would overturn Roe v. Wade, but still — any candidate who really believes in Federalism will move the ball forward for those of us who are conservatives — and not just on pro-life issues.”

http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/11/fred_thompson_tim_russert_fede.php


144 posted on 11/05/2007 4:35:45 AM PST by Josh Painter ("Managers are people who leaders hire." - Fred Thompson)
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To: JCEccles

Coming from a Romney supporter, that’s pretty rich.


159 posted on 11/05/2007 6:42:22 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JCEccles
Fred had no coherent answer on abortion.

No. He didn't say what you wanted to hear is more like it. If you couldn't understand his simply word stand that's it's up to the states, well.

Let me lay it out for every Republican primary voter. You support the guy you want, you rally for him, you write some checks, you vote in the primaries… and maybe your guy wins, maybe he loses. If the guy who beats your guy is half a loaf, you shrug your shoulders, hope your guy is his running mate, and get ready for the general. Life goes on.

169 posted on 11/05/2007 7:10:09 AM PST by McGruff (If I can't have Cheney I guess Fred will have to do.)
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To: JCEccles
You didn't even watch it, did you.

What a buffoon you are.

182 posted on 11/05/2007 7:53:26 AM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: JCEccles
Fred has seen the damage done by the government fiat on abortion. He knows that people are frustrated that they can't even get simple restrictions on the procedure because the Supremes will always stand in the way, using Roe v Wade as a precedent. Unless peoples' hearts and minds go through an enormous change, a Human Life Amendment, has absolutely NO chance of passing the House AND Senate, then getting the needed State approvals. Overturning Roe is the quickest way to make a considerable impact on the number of abortions done in this country.

No, I don't like that we can't get HLA passed, but the issue is SO hot that it will be demagogued by the left as a way for theocracy to push itself into all our life decisions. You and I know that is a load of carp, but there are WAY too many voters who are paranoid enough about religion that they will swallow that, hook, line and sinker.

If a Republican is elected, who has stated that he will appoint Justices to the Supremes who are willing to overturn Roe, that will be a major step. When Roe is overturned, abortions will not be outlawed, the issue will just go back to status quo ante Jan, 22, 1973. There are some states in which abortion is already legal, but most will have restrictions on it. If citizens are given the chance to actually vote on the procedure, most will allow abortions for the hard cases, but those are, at most 2% of all abortions.

Unless there is a change of heart in this country, abortion will always be legal, but it will be restricted in most places. That is not the ideal situation, but I'd rather save MOST babies, than not be able to save ANY.

213 posted on 11/05/2007 9:27:19 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: JCEccles

“Fred had no coherent answer on abortion.”

He had an answer. It was coherent. Perhaps you just couldn’t understand it?

Maybe get a transcript and ask for help.


267 posted on 11/05/2007 10:48:14 AM PST by getitright
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To: JCEccles

“Fred had no coherent answer on abortion. He hemmed and hawed and hawed and hemmed. In the end he meekly said the killing could go on. He said he was personally against it but could understand and accept why some people (states) might be for it.”

In fact, I thought I was listening to Bill Clinton. I have been beating the drum for Fred, but that scene with Russert shook my confidence. While even a weak-on-abortion-and-gays Fred, is better than Hillabeast; it just galls my gluteous maximus that we can’t have a REAL conservative candidate, and have to “SETTLE” for something less.


306 posted on 11/05/2007 5:32:36 PM PST by Tucker39 (A vote for Fred, Rudy or Mitt will probably save the Supreme Court.)
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