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HUNTER CALLS ON ROMNEY TO OPPOSE BAIN PARTNERSHIP WITH CHINESE COMPANY
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Posted on 11/03/2007 6:12:51 AM PDT by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
Duncan Hunter IS the candidate that is most FEARED by the left..
I believe that there is great weight in this comment, as evidenced by Hunter's poll numbers etc.. The majority of this nation does not want to hear about the position of peace through strength that the Left, for decades, has assiduously painted as being warlike and imperialistic.
There is no better proponent of military preparedness than Hunter. This puts him squarely in the cross hairs of the Lefties who want just the opposite.
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posted on
11/03/2007 11:51:27 AM PDT
by
PerConPat
(A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
To: davidosborne; dit_xi; politicallyincarrect; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; ...
And from a campaign strategy standpoint, it looks like Hunter has picked the right fight on this one with the right candidate.
'Economic Patriotism' is a crucial defining issue, and Romney's still leading, I think, in polls of Iowa and NewHampshire, thus arguably the leading "conservative" in the race.
If this issue gets news coverage, and/or if the Hunter campaign leads with it in what will have to be very cost-effective television ad barrages, it will serve Hunter's campaign very well.
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posted on
11/03/2007 11:54:37 AM PDT
by
ProCivitas
(Duncan Hunter = Pro-Family + Fair Trade = Pro-America. www.gohunter08.com)
To: hellbender
And as a shareholder and major public figure, you think Romney has no influence at all over what Bain does?
You have to have a pretty decisive share of stock or head a bloc of shareholders that can make themselves heard. I don't know that Romney has that many shares or that he's that heavily invested in Bain these days.
He's retired now as a financier and likely has diversified his portfolio.
To: George W. Bush
Frankly, I still don't understand why he hasn't been able to do better. Because conservatives are hypocrites. They sat on their asses waiting for Fred! to arrive on his white horse when the real Reagan Republican was already in the race.
Also Hunter has ran an obsolete campaign. He's got to have a strong message that reasonates across the board like Paul does. Hunter opposes gambling, for crying out loud. How the Hell is that supposed to get you support?
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
fair enough.. if you consider responding harshly to being called a liar “pissing and moaning” than we obviously don’t share the same definition of the term..
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posted on
11/03/2007 12:19:45 PM PDT
by
davidosborne
(http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
To: George W. Bush
There was more to my comment than his being a Bain shareholder. I pointed out that he was a major public figure, who thinks he should be President. As such, he should be expected to take a position on Chinese trade deals vs. national security, no? Of course, if he does respond, we will be treated to more typical Romney spin and weasel-words.
I think Hunter was using this deal to draw attention to the fact that Romney is part of the same problem as Hillary, although perhaps less overtly treasonous.
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
If Hunter opposes gambling, it's because he realizes that it is a vice, which is destructive of families and society. He's not some libertarian extremist, who thinks that dogma trumps historical experience about human societies and the fate of nations.
If Hunter's campaign is "obsolete," it's only in the sense that modern American society has become so decadent that a man of virtue, honor, and decency is considered passe. It's tragic that so many people, even on FR, are following the "horse race" between unprincipled egotists like Rudy, Romney, etc., rather than getting behind the real conservative, Hunter.
To: hellbender
There was more to my comment than his being a Bain shareholder. I pointed out that he was a major public figure, who thinks he should be President. As such, he should be expected to take a position on Chinese trade deals vs. national security, no? Of course, if he does respond, we will be treated to more typical Romney spin and weasel-words.
It's unlikely Romney will respond. Same with Bain staff. I doubt the media will even bother to ask them about it.
Hunter needs to collect the dots a lot better to get any traction with this (currently) weak instrument.
I think Hunter was using this deal to draw attention to the fact that Romney is part of the same problem as Hillary, although perhaps less overtly treasonous.
Actually, Hillary doesn't have a fraction of the problems that Bill had with it. Hillary is cashing in big on Wall Street and even with defense contractors which really is quite shocking to me. Apparently, they decided she was going to win no matter what so they're appeasing her with donations. Later, maybe they'll give some money to the GOP nominee. Maybe.
It says something when the defense contractors won't even support Hunter who has been pretty good on procurement and weapon modernization programs over the years and is as gung-ho over Iraq as a person could be. Same applies to McCain really but McCain has had a lot more fundraising success earlier but let his staff fritter it away.
To: George W. Bush
I agree that Romney will not bother responding. However, I hope Hunter gets some Republicans thinking about this. That was probably his main goal. Also, he may bring it up at a debate, where Romney will do his usual Clintonesque obfuscation and spin.
As for Hillary having less of a problem with Chinese influence that Bill, I think that's ludicrous. She's awash in laundered Chinese campaign money. Yes, it's true that the corporate interests are funnelling her money also, but that's because they are (as another poster here put it) whores, without a shred of patriotism. They are only concerned about the short-term profit picture. It could be argued that a looming Chinese military threat is "good for business" (in the short term), from the standpoint of defense contractors.
To: davidosborne
Thanks david, for all your posts, AND for what you are doing. Be safe over there!
We will not give up on Hunter, rest assured. It seems to me you, and your fellow comrades have a much better prospective of just who we SHOULD support, than most, and if I weren’t already a Hunter supporter, I would tend to listen to those who know best.
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posted on
11/03/2007 1:21:07 PM PDT
by
gidget7
( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
To: gidget7
Gidget7,
Thanks for you kind words, it is an honor to serve.
TOWARD VICTORY
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posted on
11/03/2007 1:38:46 PM PDT
by
davidosborne
(http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
To: davidosborne
We love you David! All of you!
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posted on
11/03/2007 1:41:22 PM PDT
by
gidget7
( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
To: Calpernia
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posted on
11/03/2007 2:15:16 PM PDT
by
AuntB
(" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
To: hellbender
f Hunter's campaign is "obsolete," it's only in the sense that modern American society has become so decadent that a man of virtue, honor, and decency is considered passe. It's tragic that so many people, even on FR, are following the "horse race" between unprincipled egotists like Rudy, Romney, etc., rather than getting behind the real conservative, Hunter.Very nice. Duncan Hunter is our canary in he mine. This country better start paying attention to what we're willing to sacrifice for PC globalism.
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posted on
11/03/2007 2:21:26 PM PDT
by
AuntB
(" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
To: George W. Bush
It says something when the defense contractors won't even support Hunter who has been pretty good on procurement and weapon modernization programs over the years and is as gung-ho over Iraq as a person could be.Indeed it does. It proves Hunter wouldn't go along with their bribes, like many did. Maybe that's the kind of guy they're looking for....one they can more easily influence.
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posted on
11/03/2007 2:25:16 PM PDT
by
AuntB
(" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
To: George W. Bush
Of course it is also political...Hunter, in addition to being on the committee, is running for President. I believe, in this instance though, that it is also appropriate to ask the other cadidates running for President (because, after all, the POTUS does have a valid say and interest in this) to take a stand against this deal if the things stated about it have the remotest chance of being true.
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posted on
11/03/2007 3:37:14 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: hellbender
If Hunter opposes gambling, it's because he realizes that it is a vice, which is destructive of families and society. Someone spending a few dollars on lottery tickets or going to play BINGO is none of Hunter's concern and I doubt that the vast majority (like me) who do gamble don't have any problems.
He's not some libertarian extremist, who thinks that dogma trumps historical experience about human societies and the fate of nations.
I don't want him to be a libertarian extremist. But certainly he needs to read a book on federalism instead of being Huckabee lite.
If Hunter's campaign is "obsolete," it's only in the sense that modern American society has become so decadent that a man of virtue, honor, and decency is considered passe.
No, it just means Hunter tried to run a traditional campaign, thinking that the liberal media would give him interviews all the time, especially to a Congressman.
It's tragic that so many people, even on FR, are following the "horse race" between unprincipled egotists like Rudy, Romney, etc., rather than getting behind the real conservative, Hunter.
I agree, and I said that most conservatives are hypocrites for ignoring Hunter on the fallacy that he couldn't "win" but will wait out in the pumpkin patch for Fred! to arrive like Linus. If I wasn't such a free-market libertarian I would've been out there supporting Hunter since Day One.
To: ProCivitas
“If this issue gets news coverage, and/or if the Hunter campaign leads with it in what will have to be very cost-effective television ad barrages, it will serve Hunter’s campaign very well.”
I hope our FReepers from Iowa or NH, who support Hunter, will write an editor’s letter, and/or call one of the local talk shows.
Hunter doesn’t have the kind of personal $$ that Romney has so needs all the grassroots support he can get from us.
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posted on
11/03/2007 6:25:36 PM PDT
by
Sun
(Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
To: Calpernia
Re post 80, 1st link, no wonder Romney keeps saying he wants a partnership with Communist China.
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posted on
11/03/2007 6:44:17 PM PDT
by
Sun
(Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
To: davidosborne
As a 3COM shareholder, I see nothing wrong with this deal, for 3COM, for investors, or for America.
having a Chinese company being a minority shareholder in a venture doesn’t change laws or their access to technology, any more than if you went out and bought shares in a Shanghai stock exchange company - would you have chinese technology? Chinese businesses will not get access to anything additional through this transaction that they cant get in other ways by simply buying it.
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posted on
11/03/2007 11:07:46 PM PDT
by
WOSG
(Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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