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Italy starts rounding up Romanian immigrants (Woman's murder pushes Italy over the edge)
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | November 3, 2007 | Malcolm Moore in Rome and Bruno Waterfield in Brussels

Posted on 11/03/2007 12:52:29 AM PDT by Stoat

Italy starts rounding up Romanian immigrants


By Malcolm Moore in Rome and Bruno Waterfield in Brussels
 
Last Updated: 3:07am GMT 03/11/2007
 

 

Italy has begun rounding up thousands of Romanian immigrants for deportation after passing a new "public order and security" law.

  • Death of Italian woman brings tensions to crescendo

    Masgras Neculai, 30, a petty thief, was named as the first Romanian who would be expelled under the new law, which allows anyone who is considered "dangerous" to society to be sent home.

     
    Police guard Romanian immigrants in Rome
    Police in Rome have begun rounding up Romanians

     

    The law was rushed through the Italian cabinet on Wednesday after huge public outcry following the savage murder of Giovanna Reggiani, a 47-year-old Italian woman, allegedly by a Romanian man.

    The decree has now been officially published and has come into force immediately.

    Police have begun combing immigrant ghettos and arresting Romanians without permits.

    Government ministers have vowed to return 5,000 Romanians to their home country in the next few weeks.

    The move appeared to have the blessing of the European Union.

    Franco Frattini, the European commissioner for justice, freedom and security, said: "What has to be done is simple. Go into a nomad camp in Rome for example, and ask them: 'Can you tell me where you live?'

    "If they say they do not know, take them and send them home to Romania. That is how the European directive works.

    It is simple and safe. Romania cannot say they will not take them back, because it is an obligation that is part of being a member state of the EU."

    He also urged Italy to pull down the camps to prevent any Romanians from returning.

    However, the relevant European directive specifically states that expulsions should not be targeted at any ethic group, and that "the personal conduct of the individual concerned must represent a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests of society".

    Previous criminal convictions are not grounds enough for deportation, it adds, and deportees must be given one month's notice.

    Nello Rossi, the head of Italy's National Magistrates Association, said that each expulsion would have to be justified, and that "there cannot be mass indiscriminate expulsions".

    He said: "The new law does not appear to conform to our own constitution or to the European law which recognises the right of European citizens to circulate freely and stay within the territory of any member state."

    The Italian home office said each Romanian would be brought before a justice of the peace to plead his case before being transported home on planes or buses.

    The Romanian government said that it accepts that any violent offenders should be repatriated.

    While waiting for transport, Romanians will be held in one of 13 detention centres.

    Twenty Romanians were arrested in Rome, another 10 in Turin and handfuls from the rest of the country, while makeshift shacks were torn down. A team of Romanian police has arrived to assist.

    The move has enormous public support. A survey on Sky television in Italy showed 83 per cent of people backed the deportations.

    More than 550,000 Romanians, or 15 per cent of the immigrant population, have arrived in Italy since 2002.

    Walter Veltroni, the Rome mayor, has claimed that 75 per cent of all crimes in the capital this year have been carried out by Romanians.

    In contrast, petty crime in Romania has dropped by 26 per cent.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; criminals; deportaion; eu; europeanunion; gypsies; immigration; italy; romania
Police have begun combing immigrant ghettos and arresting Romanians without permits.

And the reason why we can't do that here in the USA with "our" illegals is what, exactly?

  • Walter Veltroni, the Rome mayor, has claimed that 75 per cent of all crimes in the capital this year have been carried out by Romanians.

    In contrast, petty crime in Romania has dropped by 26 per cent.

So, it appears that the criminals are moving to Italy......

1 posted on 11/03/2007 12:52:34 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; knighthawk

Ping


2 posted on 11/03/2007 12:57:26 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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If you would like to send a friendly note of support to an English-speaking representative of Italy, you may do so here:

Embassy of Italy in Washington

Embassy of Italy
3000 Whitehaven Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C., 20008 
Tel (202) 612-4400
Fax (202) 518-2154

 

3 posted on 11/03/2007 1:08:23 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
They need to do this to muslims.
4 posted on 11/03/2007 1:09:39 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: CzarNicky
They need to do this to muslims.

Hopefully this effort by our Italian Friends will demonstrate to the entire Western world that no nation needs to put up with being overrun by foreigners who refuse to assimilate to the national culture, create crime in overwhelming percentages and degrade the quality of life for the people who made the country what it is.

5 posted on 11/03/2007 1:16:32 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat; MoochPooch; Michael81Dus; Vicomte13; az_gila; Experiment 6-2-6; henkster; CT-Freeper; ...
Europe Pinglist.
Appreciated, Stoat.
6 posted on 11/03/2007 1:35:40 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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Anger at EU immigrants explodes after woman's brutal death - Times Online

Giovanna Reggiani, 47, the wife of a naval captain, died last night after being raped, beaten and thrown into a drainage ditch as she walked home in the dark from a railway station in a suburb of Rome. Her assailant had smashed her face into an unrecognisable pulp with a stone before leaving her for dead, police said.

Italian policemen arrive at an improvised camp, where Romanian Nicolae Romulus Mailat lived near the Tiber river in Rome, Italy

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The furious reaction to the attack on Mrs Reggiani has exposed the anger felt by many Italians at what they perceive to be the inability of authorities to deal with a sharp rise in burglaries and assaults involving migrants from Eastern Europe, particularly Romania. In a front-page editorial Il Messaggero, the Rome daily, said “Our anger, frustration, fear and grief cannot be underestimated. This atrocious and vicious attack goes beyond our darkest imaginings, and is the direct consequence of excessive tolerance. We have blindly accepted anyone who wanted to come to Italy. We should have reacted much earlier.

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7 posted on 11/03/2007 1:48:23 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Appreciated, Stoat.
 

You're quite welcome, and thank you very much for pinging your list  :-)

8 posted on 11/03/2007 1:49:30 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat; Jedi Master Pikachu
No difficulty understanding the Italians. They need to clean house. However, this is sooo counter to everything the EU stands for. Apparently Commissar, sorry, Commissioner Frattini (Italian) is in agreement with the Italian authorities, but it is going to be interesting to see what the rest of the Commission will do, and especially what happens if Romania complains.

See these articles:

Italy on the rack

The drama unfolds

9 posted on 11/03/2007 1:56:24 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Stoat

I’d guess that a lot of these Romanians are going to be orphans and/or abandoned children left over from Ceaucescu’s insane breeding program and some could be left over from that personal guard of his which had to be eliminated after he was deposed.


10 posted on 11/03/2007 2:05:22 AM PDT by damondonion
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To: CzarNicky

Add: To any and all immigrants who commit a crime.


11 posted on 11/03/2007 2:23:07 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: damondonion

These Romanians are what people normally call gypsies.


12 posted on 11/03/2007 6:00:15 AM PDT by rotstan (www.weirdnylon.com)
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To: CzarNicky
They need to do this to muslims.

Well, you can't say they didn't hit the bullseye, it was just the wrong target.

13 posted on 11/03/2007 6:39:51 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: Stoat

Good. Then round up another group of “immigrants” and expel them.


14 posted on 11/03/2007 6:42:56 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (deportation now)
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To: rotstan
"These Romanians are what people normally call gypsies."

Well, they must not be muzzies or it would have been mentioned at least once in the story, right? RIGHT???

15 posted on 11/03/2007 7:33:48 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Stoat
Latest development plus more analysis re the stand of the European Union:

A blue nettle with yellow stars

"Belatedly, the MSM is catching up with the Italian immigrant story – The Telegraph running its first piece on a sequence of events that started last Wednesday. The Daily Mail is also in full flow, with a fairly full report, but pride of place must go to The Independent, which has been quicker off the mark. It gives the issue full front-page treatment (pictured).

"Predictably, given its "liberal" left-wing bias, the Independent sides with the Romanians, declaring: "Outcasts: Italy turns on its immigrants in wake of a murder," describing them as, "…the first victims of a brutal Italian crackdown on immigrants." It adds, "As thousands await deportation without trial, are we entering a new era of intolerance across Europe?", then dwelling on the misery of these incommers, remarking that, "the city rejoiced at their misfortune"."


16 posted on 11/03/2007 8:27:13 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; Stoat

Thanks.

when are they expelling their Muslims?


17 posted on 11/03/2007 9:12:43 AM PDT by dervish (Pray for the peace of an UNDIVIDED JEWISH Jerusalem)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

from November; I’m sure the leftists are glad they got rid of Berlusconi... ;’)


18 posted on 12/18/2007 12:24:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Stoat

The Romanians should move to San Fransicko.


19 posted on 12/18/2007 12:26:48 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: rotstan

Yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_in_Central_and_Eastern_Europe


20 posted on 12/19/2007 9:18:22 AM PST by AdmSmith
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