[Shryke]

Mmm Yes- you might want ot tell all the scientists that were denied tenure, and tell all the scientists who were ostracised and publicly maligned for not towing hte TOE line then— somethign htis whole threqad was about to begin with- A little more severe than simply ‘frowned upon’-

Scientists being denied tenure does not mean they cannot obtain funding for research by private companies or, more likely, the various religious bodies that believe in ID.

Let's discuss that issue: why haven't these ID scientists been given funding from private corporations and/or churches? If there is potential there, why would it be ignored? Are you saying the Darwinists control every company and all the churches?

[CottShop]

[[Scientists being denied tenure does not mean they cannot obtain funding for research by private companies or, more likely, the various religious bodies that believe in ID]]

After all- being a ‘speudoscience’ doesn’t entitle them to public fundings liek ‘real science’

[[Let’s discuss that issue: why haven’t these ID scientists been given funding from private corporations and/or churches? If there is potential there, why would it be ignored?]]

They are being funded as best as they can be

[[Are you saying the Darwinists control every company and all the churches?]]

never implied that

[[If you cannopt falsify a theory, you cannot call it science. But, I am very willing to be corrected here. Just tell me how to falsify ID.]]

Boy howdy do I have good news for you then- ID IS falsifiable- Next objection?

[[But you have many people at the Discovery Institute and other such places that do believe in a designer, and are (from what I read) steering their research as appropriate, correct?]]

The Discovery institute, or even ICR are not the backbone of Intelligent design science- they are independent branches of hte hypothesis of intelligent design- their own personal beliefs OUTSIDE of the hypothesis of Intelligent Design is irrelevent to the hypothesis of intelligent design itself.

[[What have they come up with? What new branches of research has been opened?]]

I point you to both unccomondescent.com and creationsafari.com for more research and discoveries than you can shake a stick at- I also point you toward Behe’s site, as well as ICR and many others

[[That is a long time to produce “design-based” research, theories, etc. Yet, we still see nothing of that type. Why]]

Nothing? Lol- I guess your blinders don’t have peepholes eh?