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Why Some Evangelicals Won't Vote for Romney
Christian Post ^ | 10-16-07

Posted on 10/31/2007 11:21:56 AM PDT by truthandlife

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To: SHEENA26
Well, I believe Abe Lincoln was either an agnostic or aethist.

"The Creed of Abraham Lincoln in His Own Words:"
"I believe in God, the Almighty Ruler of Nations, our great and good and merciful Maker, our Father in heaven, who notes the fall of a sparrow, and numbers the hairs of our heads.
I believe in His eternal truth and justice.
I recognize the sublime truth announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history that those nations only are blest whose God is the Lord.
I believe that it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, and to invoke the influence of His Holy Spirit; to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon.
I believe that it is meet and right to recognize and confess the presence of the Almighty Father equally in our triumphs and in those sorrows which we may justly fear are a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins to the needful end of our reformation.
I believe that the Bible is the best gift which God has ever given to men. All the good from the Saviour of the world is communicated to us through this book.
I believe the will of God prevails. Without Him all human reliance is vain. Without the assistance of His divine Being, I cannot succeed. With that assistance I cannot fail.
Being a humble instrument in the hands of our Heavenly Father, I desire that all my works and acts may be according to His will; and that it may be so, I give thanks to the Almighty, and seek His aid.
I have a solemn oath registered in heaven to finish the work I am in, in full view of my responsibility to my God, with malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right as God gives me to see the right. Commending those who love me to His care, as I hope in their prayers they will comend me, I look through the help of God to a joyous meeting with many loved ones gone before."

21 posted on 10/31/2007 12:07:11 PM PDT by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: truthandlife

First there was the Old Testament, then the New Testament, then the Book of Mormon... God updates all the time. It’s no big deal.


22 posted on 10/31/2007 12:08:08 PM PDT by Michael A. Velli (Mitt / Duncan 08, baby! -- because I "fear" FDT)
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To: Saundra Duffy

“Oh, your Jesus is a different Jesus, you say.”

Does your Jesus have a supernatural brother?


23 posted on 10/31/2007 12:08:32 PM PDT by Grunthor (Giuliani, whatever assurance he may give on specific pledges is pro-choice.)
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To: truthandlife
“People have got to understand that the beliefs of the Mormon cult are totally inconsistent with biblical Christianity,” Bill Keller of LivePrayer.com told The Christian Post on Monday.

This guy needs to get a grip. Romney's not running for a clerical position.

24 posted on 10/31/2007 12:09:02 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Grunthor

My Jesus suffered and died for me. Because of His atoning sacrifice I am a joint-heir. Hallelujah!


25 posted on 10/31/2007 12:11:42 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
I am sick of these anti Mormon articles, full of lies and deceit.

Don't get so huffy, Duffy. Most here aren't anti-Mormon but, rather, anti-Mitt!

26 posted on 10/31/2007 12:13:36 PM PDT by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I’m glad to hear that, but can you answer the question please?


27 posted on 10/31/2007 12:16:29 PM PDT by Grunthor (Giuliani, whatever assurance he may give on specific pledges is pro-choice.)
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To: truthandlife
He advised Christians to first make sure Romney clarifies his Mormon religion before they “jump on the Romney bandwagon.”

A great suggestion! And there is a great resource online!


28 posted on 10/31/2007 12:20:01 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: truthandlife
“He (Romney) uses the name Jesus and people think he is talking about the Jesus in the Bible but the Jesus of Mormonism has nothing to do with the Jesus of the Bible,” Keller argues.

What do Mormons believe about Jesus Christ?

29 posted on 10/31/2007 12:22:45 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: truthandlife
Cizik also believes, like Keller and many other Christian leaders, that Mormons are not Christians.

For accurate information on LDS doctrine and why Mormons believe they are Christian, here are links to the teachings of two LDS Church leaders from the LDS General Conference on October 6-7, 2007:

The Only True God and Jesus Christ Whom He Hath Sent, by LDS Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland: HTML Text, MP3 Audio, or WMV Video.

The Stone Cut Out of the Mountain, by LDS Church President Gordon B. Hinckley: HTML Text, MP3 Audio, or WMV Video.

Other formats and languages and other LDS General Conference talks are available here.

There will be many who will share their oppinions about LDS doctrine from a non-LDS (or anti-LDS) perspective. If you have questions after reviewing any of this, Mormon.org offers the ability to ask questions by email or anonymous online chat.

BTW, Romney is not at the top of my list, Hunter is. I'm still looking at Romney & Thompson. I have no interest in the rest.

30 posted on 10/31/2007 12:26:58 PM PDT by esarlls3
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To: Saundra Duffy
My Jesus suffered and died for me. Because of His atoning sacrifice I am a joint-heir. Hallelujah!

You are being profoundly dishonest, as is Mitty. You support the liar because he tells the same lies as you do. I reject lying altogether.

31 posted on 10/31/2007 12:29:05 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Saundra Duffy

I’m glad to hear that, but can you answer the question please?


32 posted on 10/31/2007 12:30:33 PM PDT by Grunthor (Giuliani, whatever assurance he may give on specific pledges is pro-choice.)
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To: al_c
If it comes down to Romney (Mormon) vs. Clinton (anti-Christ),
they might want to reconsider.


Mormonism ain't my cup of tea.

But Romney v. Hillary! ?
NO CONTEST!
Romney will have my vote.
33 posted on 10/31/2007 12:31:04 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

Agreed. Anyone but Hillary. Heck ... I’d even settle for her other half.


34 posted on 10/31/2007 12:43:51 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

That is my one and only problem with him as well. But if he wins the nomination I’ll pull the lever for him against Hillary.

Unless we have an actual conservative third party with many billions of dollars and two candidates that can win. Not likely but I can dream.


35 posted on 10/31/2007 12:46:57 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Grunthor
I agree. I'm as Evangelical as it gets, but I look at Romney as a flipper, not a Mormon. I can agree with almost any "believer" because most of our morals are similar. I don't however trust a Catholic that believes in abortion, or a Mormon that is for gay marriage. It has to do with their core judgment, not their church. Also, didn't he say he went bird hunting once? Coming from Mass, I think I need more assurance that he won't ban guns. I would probably vote for Romney before Guliani though.

If somebody wants to debate the beliefs of the Mormons, that's a different kettle of worms. Even a Muslim would handle the problems in homosexual marriage, adultery, abortion, etc in a "conservative" manner. If we are ready for stonings and beheadings, well, maybe he could be elected. I don't think Romney is saying we all have to report to Salt lake to get our "holy underwear" yet. If he's truly against homosexual marriage and abortion, then I'm not threatened as a Baptist with those tenets. I worry about ALL the candidates being waffling flippers no matter what their stated denomination. And that includes Huckaby. He seems to love illegals. We can send missionaries to Mexico to "save" them, without letting them draw Social Security and Medicare.

36 posted on 10/31/2007 12:54:59 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: SHEENA26
Well, I believe Abe Lincoln was either an agnostic or aethist.

That is revisionist history. Abe Lincoln's last act was to issue an edict that henceforth, on every coin would be printed the words: "In God We Trust." Would an atheist or agnostic do that? I don' think so.

37 posted on 10/31/2007 12:56:41 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Colofornian
Maybe some of the problems we have these days within Evangelicalism is that too many separate theology (who God is) from too many other aspects of life. They separate who God is from politics.

Or we simply render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's. Not exactly an unchristian position.

I would love to have a president who was also a perfect Christian (although I haven't yet met one), but I don't look to any politician for spiritual guidance. I already gave that job to Christ.

38 posted on 10/31/2007 1:10:24 PM PDT by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: Grunthor

Yes, but not in the way that it is usually portrayed. LDS believe that all humans and angels are “sons of God.” Since Jesus is also the Son of God, His Firstborn, His Only Begotten in the Flesh, then Jesus Christ is the brother of all of us.

Of course He is our Lord, Master, Savior, Redeemer, and God, so that relationship of “brother” needs to be understood properly. So yes, Jesus and Satan are brothers, but only in the sense that all the angels and humans are brothers of Jesus. We don’t mean it in a sense that elevates Satan or lowers Jesus.

Normally people who bring up this fact do it for the shock value rather than explain the fundamental LDS idea of all of us being children of God.


39 posted on 10/31/2007 1:10:39 PM PDT by Reno232
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To: al_c

..., something we all must prayerfully consider before voting.


40 posted on 10/31/2007 1:20:36 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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