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Key Marine Lawyer Cites Military Court Injustices [LtCol Colby Vokey]
NPR - All Things Considered ^ | October 30, 2007 | Daniel Zwerdling

Posted on 10/30/2007 2:54:17 PM PDT by RedRover

By all accounts, Colby Vokey is a model officer in the U.S. Marine Corps. He helped command an artillery unit in Kuwait during the Gulf War in 1991.

For the past four years, Vokey has served as chief of all the Corps' defense lawyers in the western United States — and he's played a key role in some of the military's most sensitive legal issues, including the murder investigation in Haditha, Iraq, and in the debate about detainees at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay.

"Colby Vokey?" muses retired Col. Jane Siegel "Integrity almost seems like a word too small to describe him."

Says Lt. Col. Matthew Cord, "He's just one of the best."

So when Vokey announced recently that he wanted to leave the Corps, it said something troubling about the military system of justice that he's served for almost 20 years. Vokey charges that some commanders and officials in the Bush administration have abused the system of justice, and he's going to retire from the Corps May 1, 2008.

People who know him say that privately, Vokey has acknowledged he is "angry" and "bitter." Publicly, Vokey describes himself as "fed up. I think changes to the system are well-overdue," he told NPR. "And it's a little frustrating when you see problems are highlighted time and time and again."

Turning Points

So how did Vokey, who's stationed at Camp Pendleton in California, evolve from a gung-ho warrior — who helped command an artillery unit in Desert Storm — to a disillusioned officer?

Vokey says he can remember the exact moments that he decided to become a Marine, and then later, a Marine lawyer.

Just after he arrived as a freshman at Texas A&M, he met an officer in the Corps. "He was in his Marine uniform — the green trousers, the tan shirt, the ribbons, the rank, his hat," Vokey said. "Every time he made a movement it was sharp, it was crisp. You knew who was in charge. And it was him. He looked like he was one of the best. And I wanted to be one of the best."

Years later, after he had enlisted and fought in Desert Storm, Vokey got called to jury duty in a court-martial.

Vokey said it was a routine case against a Marine accused of writing bad checks. On the surface, he said, it resembled any trial in the civilian world -– there was a military judge, a military prosecutor, and a military defense lawyer, which the Corps always provides to defendants for free. But Vokey said when he and the other jurors began deliberating, he saw one of the biggest potential problems that can prevent service members from getting a fair trial: the senior officer on the jury tried to order everybody else how to decide the verdict.

"We walked into the deliberation room, closed the door, sat down and he said, 'All right, let's convict this guy. Let's get out of here'," Vokey said. "I said, 'Whoa, sir, I think we're supposed to talk about the evidence first.' And he said, 'Jesus Christ, you think this guy's not guilty?'"

Battles in the Courtroom

Vokey said that's when he decided to fight his battles in the courtroom -– to make sure that commanders never manipulate the system of justice.

Commanders have the power to do just that, if they wanted: The same commander who accuses a Marine of breaking the law might also pick the members of the jury, which will decide if the commander is right. And that same commander might supervise the lawyer who defends the Marine against his accusations.

But Vokey teaches his defense lawyers that they have to fight commanders with every legal weapon they've got, even if it makes commanders angry.

When he trains young Marine defense lawyers, he tells them "you have one loyalty, and that's to the client," Vokey said.

Top commanders said they appreciate and need courageous defense lawyers like Vokey.

"We are an American military," said Tom Hemingway, who retired earlier this year as Brigadier General and legal advisor at the Pentagon. "We're here to support American values, and one of the things that we have in our disciplinary system, as a requirement, is that the trial system be fair."

Hemingway said that if troops believed that commanders manipulate the system of justice, "it would destroy morale. You want people in an all-volunteer force to serve willingly," Hemingway said. "If they think the system is unfair, then they're not going to re-enlist."

Cases in Point

But Vokey says that is one reason he's feeling demoralized: he has fought cases in the past few years where officials have tried to sway the system.

For example, after officials filed criminal charges against eight Marines on the grounds that they were involved in massacring 24 unarmed civilians in Haditha, Iraq, the Corps assembled one of the biggest legal teams in recent history to prosecute the men. But Vokey says officials told him he had to use a much smaller team to defend them. "It made me very angry," Vokey says. "We didn't have the people and the tools that we needed to adequately defend these Marines. It really sends a message that the Marine Corp's trying to railroad these guys."

The prosecution argued that the Marines went on a senseless rampage; Vokey argued that the men fought against insurgents as they were trained to do, and when civilians tragically got caught in the way, officials decided to turn the troops into scapegoats.

After Vokey fought fellow officers over the issue, a key general gave him permission to organize a much bigger military defense team, which has persuaded military investigators to drop many of the original charges.

Vokey has also watched thousands of Marines come back to Camp Pendleton from the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Some have developed post-traumatic stress disorder or other serious mental health problems, and then taken illegal drugs or refused to show up at the base. To punish them, commanders have kicked them out of the service, with few or no benefits.

Vokey says he agrees that commanders must punish soldiers who break the rules, or discipline would fall apart. But he says the system is too rigid and should blend discipline with compassion.

"What's upsetting is we've created the situation" by sending the Marines to war, Vokey said. "They fought for their country. And if we broke them, we should fix them."

Guantanamo Bay

The U.S. has imprisoned hundreds of "enemy combatants" at Guantanamo Bay, in a military legal system that Vokey denounces as "horrific." Vokey saw the system first-hand, when he agreed two years ago to defend a teenager there who had been charged with murdering a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan. Vokey said he knew the case would be difficult, but he discovered that the legal system at Guantanamo is a "sham."

Vokey said the military staff constantly harassed him and interfered with his defense work by making it difficult even to meet with his client or show his client the government's evidence against him. The teenager confessed to killing the soldier, but he told Vokey he confessed after being shackled for hours in excruciating positions and bombarded by screeching music and flashing lights.

FBI agents have reported seeing detainees treated in similar ways, and investigators at human rights groups have reported evidence suggesting that detainees are routinely abused.

Vokey calls the system "disgraceful."

"Anytime you want to subvert the rule of law to the power of a government, you've got a very bad thing brewing," Vokey told NPR. "As an officer in the Marine Corps I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. And now we are perpetrating something that if any other country in the world was doing, we would likely step in and stop it."

Hemingway, who until recently was the top lawyer advising U.S. officials on how to handle detainees at Guantanamo, dismisses those charges. Hemingway said he has asked the staff to investigate complaints by detainees, including Vokey's client, and "we have found absolutely nothing to substantiate that." He added, "I know of no one in uniform who signed up to embarrass the United States of America by running a system that doesn't meet what we consider to be appropriate standards."

Vokey, undeterred, said the legal system at Guantanamo has left him feeling "disgusted."

'A Chilling Message'

When asked to identify exactly which officials in the military and the Bush administration he believes have abused the system of justice, Vokey avoids giving an answer. When pressed, Vokey went to his bookshelf, pulled out the Manual for Courts-Martial, and read from Article 88: "'Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the president, vice president, Congress'" and a list of other officials, he said, "'shall be punished as a court martial may direct.'"

"I need to be careful," Vokey said.

Given that he speaks out like that, Vokey said he was not completely surprised when an official at USMC headquarters called him recently to her office in Washington, D.C. and fired him as chief of defense counsels in the western United States.

Officials at the Corps would not give NPR an interview, despite repeated requests.

But when former Marine Corps lawyers heard about Vokey's firing, they were incensed. Siegel said Vokey's firing sent a chilling message that some officials don't want military lawyers to defend the Constitution too vigorously.

"I believe that Colby Vokey was pulled out of his position because he's doing too good a job," Siegel said. "I think that the people in Washington D.C. don't like that."

After Siegel and other well-known lawyers wrote a blistering letter of protest about Vokey's firing and lobbied top commanders at Marine headquarters, officials backed down and reinstated him. But critics say the Corps is just doing damage control because officials know that Vokey is planning to leave on his own.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defendourmarines; haditha; iraq
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To: El Gato
Thanks for the clarification.

Been a very long time since I had anything to do with the UCMJ, but I thought it was CM boards and not juries . . . .

But I discounted any detail right off the bat, seeing as it's NPR. The only reason they cover this is that they see it as an opportunity to bash the military and get a shot in at the administration while they're at it.

41 posted on 10/31/2007 4:40:13 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: El Gato

As a Savage listener, I believe that Savage has expressed often that he supports the Marines, and believes that Bush could right this wrong with a stroke of the pen.


42 posted on 10/31/2007 5:45:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: AndyJackson

Well said.


43 posted on 10/31/2007 5:47:10 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: El Gato
Based on my 25 years of AD, I can tell you that there is only one person who commands a unit and has the legal authority and responsibility for that unit.

Although DCGs, XOs, and CSMs have an important leadership roles [as you suggest], command [by law as well as doctrine]is conferred upon one individual in a unit.

44 posted on 10/31/2007 6:02:00 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: Lancey Howard
It's all about running like scared bunnies from the liberal Democrat newsrooms while at the same time cozying up to the Democrats in Congress.

Totally Agreed.

This administration has been cowardly and shamefully RINO. No guts to stand up to the press and the Rats on any PC issues.

I am also inclined to believe the rest of your surmises, but will withhold judgment, and take a wait and see attitude. But you are certainly right as to what it SOUNDS like...

45 posted on 10/31/2007 12:50:02 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross
This administration has been cowardly and shamefully RINO. No guts to stand up to the press and the Rats on any PC issues.

Unfortunately, many of the military "commanders" aren't any better.

46 posted on 10/31/2007 2:29:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: verity
Although DCGs, XOs, and CSMs have an important leadership roles [as you suggest], command [by law as well as doctrine]is conferred upon one individual in a unit.

Thus the word "helped". Didn't command, "helped to command". Of course "helped the commander" would have been a bit more accurate. But this was a reporter for NPR, you can't have very high expectations in that situtation.

47 posted on 10/31/2007 3:46:50 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: AnAmericanMother
seeing as it's NPR. The only reason they cover this is that they see it as an opportunity to bash the military and get a shot in at the administration while they're at it.

BINGO!


48 posted on 10/31/2007 3:48:25 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
I know the man is angry, but I wish he had considered who he was talking to before he handed them a stick to beat the USMC with.

It won't make matters any better with respect to his concerns, and it may make them worse.

49 posted on 10/31/2007 3:55:16 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: El Gato; RedRover; Girlene; xzins
I also discounted *recent* court decisions in favor of older ones. It's so nice how settled law crumbles under political correctness and modern sensibilities.

Thank you for bringing that point up; seems that the libs are all in favour of stare decisis when it favours one of their pet programs, but not if it interferes with their current PC project. Once there is a clear victor in the battle, then some measure of civility -- as in civil(ian) consideration -- can be expended to your foes. However doing that at the start of the conflagration will only serve to get your own forces driven off the field and beaten before they start. I think we're getting close to that now, and I shudder to think of the next military incursion we may have to undertake. Without the will to win, to do what it takes to defeat the foe to his full acceptance of your terms, then you may as well bow down and say "Yes, Master."

LtCol Colby Vokey may be an outstanding defense attorney, and I wish him well in that regard -- however he, and all like him, is not suited to command on the field. Haditha is showing just how entrenched the political officer has become in our forces, courtesy of the socialist mindsets of the elitists in charge.

50 posted on 10/31/2007 9:39:58 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: El Gato

We have educated those who are unfamiliar with ‘command’ doctrine. ;-)


51 posted on 11/01/2007 6:36:37 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: RedRover
Vokey charges that some commanders and officials in the Bush administration have abused the system of justice, and he's going to retire from the Corps May 1, 2008.

Such a principled guy to be sticking it out in such a horrible and abusive system till retirement.

52 posted on 11/01/2007 6:44:00 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
He is a principled guy. LtCol Vokey was only fired in September as Regional Defense Counsel for West Coast Marines. Reportedly, his sin was assigning too many defense attorneys to the Haditha and Hamandiyah defendants. Maybe his replacement will know how to play ball and get some convictions on the scoreboard.
53 posted on 11/01/2007 7:04:59 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Sorry, but from the article I doubt his views have been formed from Haditha. And if he felt that strongly about being associated with a system that he said has “abused the system of justice” and have accused his fellow Marines of torture, it would seem to me the appropriate thing to do would be to resign his commission.


54 posted on 11/01/2007 7:18:07 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: AndyJackson
“It is they who lead to the rise of the insurgency by insisting we go to war with an inadequate force and inadequate plans to deal with the post-Sadam world that they wanted to create. “

And the ones who were insisting that we should not take out Sadam until we had some kind of “adequate force and adequate plans” were ?

55 posted on 11/05/2007 2:21:09 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RedRover; Girlene; xzins; brityank

A couple of Curt’s interviews on local TV.

http://www.localnews8.com/Global/story.asp?S=7316917

http://www.kpvi.com/Global/story.asp?S=7316961


56 posted on 11/06/2007 5:10:06 PM PST by bigheadfred (Curt is my twin brother, 2 years the younger)
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To: RedRover; Girlene; xzins; brityank
If you watch those interviews of Curt and compare it with this picture of me, you can see we are twins. Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
57 posted on 11/06/2007 7:00:08 PM PST by bigheadfred (Curt is my twin brother, 2 years the younger)
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To: bigheadfred; Girlene; RedRover; pissant; jazusamo; brityank

Fred, our prayers continue for Evan and the other Iskandariyah troops.

It’s wrong to train/expose our troops to special techniques and then prosecute them when they’re used.

It’s cowardly to pretend the command has no culpability. It’s chilling to watch them distance themselves from their own troops.


58 posted on 11/06/2007 7:17:08 PM PST by xzins (If you'll just agree to the murdering of your children we can win the presidency!)
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To: xzins

This crap MUST end.


59 posted on 11/06/2007 7:18:42 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: xzins; Girlene; RedRover; pissant; jazusamo; brityank

If I get any more info I will let you know.


60 posted on 11/06/2007 7:34:21 PM PST by bigheadfred (Red is grey and yellow white,But we decide which is right.And which is an illusion)
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