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Preteens Trading Fairy Wands for Fishnets (Halloween Costumes)
Washington Post ^ | 10/30/07 | Brigid Schulte

Posted on 10/30/2007 12:23:43 PM PDT by Huntress

Gabby Cirenza wanted to be a referee for Halloween. The outfit she liked had a micro-mini black skirt and a form-fitting black and white-striped spandex top held together with black laces running up the flesh-exposing sides. She looked admiringly at the thigh-high black go-go boots that could be bought as an accessory. And she thought the little bunny on the chest was cute.

"Absolutely not," said her mother, Cheryl. "That is so not happening."

Gabby is 11.

And the Playboy Racy Referee costume was only the latest that her mother had vetoed one pre-Halloween-crazed afternoon at Party City in Baileys Crossroads as too skimpy, too revealing, too suggestive .

Bawdy Halloween costumes, however, have become the season's hottest sellers in recent years. Not just for women, but for girls, too. And parents such as Cirenza don't like it.

Gabby eyed the Sexy Super Girl but decided against it. A friend at her Catholic school had worn that costume for a Halloween parade and pulled the already short miniskirt way up to cover her tummy. "That didn't look very good." But Gabby did like the Aqua Fairy, a vampy get-up with a black ripped-up skirt, black fishnet tights and blue bustier that comes in medium, large and preteen. A medium fits a child of 8.

No.

How about the Funky Punk Pirate Pre-Teen, with an off-the-shoulder blouse and bare midriff?

No.

Gabby pointed to the Fairy-Licious Purrrfect Kitty Pre-Teen, which, according to the package, includes a "pink and black dress with lace front bodice and sassy jagged skirt with tail. . . . Wings require some assembly."

Cheryl Cirenza shook her head in exasperated disbelief. "This is all so inappropriate. It's really disturbing."

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To: 50sDad

1) If you wish to read them, I certainly can’t stop you. I can think of more edifying things to read, however.

2) As nothing more than entertainment, yes.

3) I don’t know who Frank Peretti is.

Now, my question for you:

What does any of this have to do with professed believers celebrating a heathen holiday right along side them, when we’re clearly instructed by Scripture to separate ourselves and “come out of them”, and “touch no unclean thing”.

Sheep or goat, hot or cold, in or out.


161 posted on 10/31/2007 11:26:44 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (FR Member ItsOurTimeNow: Declared Anathema by the Council of Trent)
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To: 50sDad
1) The obvious question would be, do you "celebrate" Easter?

No, we don't. That's what Passover is for.

2) If not, do children in your family tradition miss out on candy then as well? Sorry if I end up with mulitple posts...something funky going on with our server.

No, they don't miss out because we celebrate God's holidays in the Bible, children in my congregation actually have MORE holy-day celebration than children in traditional Christian families.

Every passover, I made Moroccan style Charoset. Last passover, someone brought chocolate dipped matzah. LOL!

Purim, we have hamantashen.

During Pentecost, we have might have cheese cake and other sweets.

During Sukkot, which is probably our biggest celebration of the year (besides passover), we celebrate Yeshua's birth (based in part on John 1) and have a "wedding" at the end.

Of course, Hannukkah brings chocolate!

For more information on how you can celebrate God's true holidays, go here or here. I also have links on my FR page to some other Messianic groups who know that Yeshua is the Messiah and celebrate the same holy-days Yeshua celebrated.

I know it's tough to give up Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Valentine's Day, etc. I've been there! But the problem for many Christians who feel convicted about the pagan origins of the holidays they have been celebrating is what to replace them with? What can fill the emptiness? If you replace the paganized holidays with God's holy-days, the emptiness is gone and you have an opportunity every year to teach your children about Yeshua all year long.

162 posted on 10/31/2007 11:33:55 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
3) I don’t know who Frank Peretti is.

Contemporary Christian author of "This Present Darkness" and "Piercing the Darkness"; portrays invisible demons attacking humanity, and spirtual warfare through prayer in his books, with more than tweleve million books in print? This from Wikipedia:

Frank Peretti has received overwhelmingly positive praise from many Christian book reviews, his books being heralded as telling entertaining stories with complex interwoven plots. [1] He has been described by Irving Hexham as a "sanctified Stephen King", and James Lewis suggests that the novels permit Christians to "indulge in reading good horror/adventure stories without the pangs of guilt they might feel reading secular stories".

163 posted on 10/31/2007 11:39:46 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: wideawake
And how do you know it was the wrong one?

Clue #1: John Chapter 1.

Clue #2: The Shepards were out in the fields by night. In December, it is too cold to be outside in the middle of the night in Bethlehem, so we know that Yeshua couldn't have been born in the winter.

For more info, go here. (Clue #3....look at the timing of when John the Baptist's papa was in the Temple).

164 posted on 10/31/2007 11:40:57 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: Tamar1973

Ah, my best friend from college is a gentile who is a Messianic Jewish “rabbinical assistant”, I think you call it. G-d Bless you. All is made clear.


165 posted on 10/31/2007 11:45:16 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: 50sDad

Never read his work, so I can’t comment. Some Christian writings are fantastic, some are nothing more than sugary-sweet dreck.

>>Frank Peretti has received overwhelmingly positive praise from many Christian book reviews,<<

One should be wary when men speak well of you.

I thought this was funny:

>>the novels permit Christians to “indulge in reading good horror/adventure stories...<<

Or, one could just read their Bible. The Old Testament is filled with the adventures of REAL people. And if one wants horror, they can contemplate the endless wrath they will face if they die in their sins without Christ’s atonement.

You seem to have overlooked my question to you...


166 posted on 10/31/2007 11:49:00 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (FR Member ItsOurTimeNow: Declared Anathema by the Council of Trent)
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To: 50sDad

I love Halloween and Christmas Trees!

I let my kids dress up and have fun fun fun. That’s what I did when I was a kid. It is for fun fun fun. Something you will remember when you are a boring old adult!


167 posted on 10/31/2007 11:50:37 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

Again, we would disagree on the definition of “celebrate”. As well, Christ walked with prositutes and tax collectors, and didn’t lock the shutters and turn off the lights. I am no Essene, and my bookshelf has more than one book. Good for you, though.


168 posted on 10/31/2007 11:53:42 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: angcat
I don't plan on being an "old adult"! ;)

"I'm growing older but not up" Jimmy Buffett

169 posted on 10/31/2007 11:54:43 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
And if one wants horror, they can contemplate the endless wrath they will face if they die in their sins without Christ’s atonement.

Or the Crusades.

170 posted on 10/31/2007 11:55:36 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: 50sDad

A war conducted in response to Muslim aggression? All war is horrific. I’m not following you...

And you’ve again overlooked my earlier question and points to you. Will you address them?


171 posted on 10/31/2007 11:58:00 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (FR Member ItsOurTimeNow: Declared Anathema by the Council of Trent)
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To: 50sDad

>>As well, Christ walked with prositutes and tax collectors,<<

He didn’t justify what they do, either. He ministered to them and told them the truth. He didn’t sugarcoat it and blend his ministry with worldliness.


172 posted on 10/31/2007 11:59:18 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (FR Member ItsOurTimeNow: Declared Anathema by the Council of Trent)
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To: Huntress
This is why we tell our kids that making the costume shows more creativity, anyone can buy it and we point out when there are three kids in the same costume in the same class at school.

My wife sews, we paper mache and paint, and our kids are warm and decent on Halloween.

Then I walk with them when they trick or treat and only to people's houses I know.
173 posted on 10/31/2007 11:59:32 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Huntress

“Don’t touch that fairy wand, honey! You don’t know where it’s been!”


174 posted on 10/31/2007 12:02:28 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Rule One: NO POOFTERS!")
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To: Tamar1973
John Chapter 1.

John 1 does not discuss details of the nativity.

Clue #2: The Shepards were out in the fields by night. In December, it is too cold to be outside in the middle of the night in Bethlehem

The average night time temperature in Bethlehem in December is 50 degrees Fahrenheit.

Moreover, December is in the rainy season, when grass recovers from the summer heat. It's prime grazing weather.

(Clue #3....look at the timing of when John the Baptist's papa was in the Temple).

Your source provides no specific timetable, simply a conjecture based on the notion that the word "dwell" in John 1:14 is a code for Sukkot.

Your source has not provided any substantiation for his claim that the lot of the Abijite priests coincided with Sukkot.

175 posted on 10/31/2007 12:09:09 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
The average night time temperature in Bethlehem in December is 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Moreover, December is in the rainy season, when grass recovers from the summer heat. It's prime grazing weather.

You want to sleep in the rain?!?! Go right ahead. LOL!

Bethlehem is only a few miles from Jerusalem and it gets cold at night. Colder than 50 degress. LOL!

The truth of the matter is that Dec. 25 is the date of birth for Mithra not for Jesus. The Church co-opted it just like they tried to co-opt and sanitize other pagan holidays. There is some biblical support that Yeshua was born during Sukkot, there's NO biblical support to claim he was born on Dec. 25.

176 posted on 10/31/2007 1:15:32 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: pandoraou812

fairy wand ping


177 posted on 10/31/2007 1:19:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: wideawake
Your source has not provided any substantiation for his claim that the lot of the Abijite priests coincided with Sukkot.

NO. but it gives you the approximate timing of the birth of John the Baptist, who was Yeshua's cousin and we know that Yeshua was 6 months younger than John the Baptist. Based on the timing of John's father's appointment in the temple, if his wife conceived shortly after that time, John would have been born around passover. 6 months after that is Sukkot, when Yeshua was probably born.

Another thing on the shephards feeding their flocks at night. There were only 3 times a year when shephards would have been that close to the environs of jerusalem to feed their sheep, which were during the High holy days of Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles.

178 posted on 10/31/2007 1:20:44 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: TigersEye
lmao TE...I wish you could see Sassy. I have to get a picture . She dressed herself as I couldn’t. I'm not sure if she is a dirty fairy or a bag lady fairy. Or a diry ballerina... But for 8 yrs old & me being so sick she looks cute ....She is happy & thats all that matters isn’t it? ~Pandy~
179 posted on 10/31/2007 1:23:33 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: pandoraou812
....She is happy & thats all that matters isn’t it? ~Pandy~

You betcha by golly wow. What more does an 8 yr old need but to laugh and have fun with her friends on Halloween? Kids love dress-up and play acting games. Plus candy. (which she doesn't get to eat) lol

180 posted on 10/31/2007 1:31:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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