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Flag folding recitations by VA volunteers banned
Tampa Bay's 10 ^ | October 29, 2007

Posted on 10/29/2007 4:44:01 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Complaints about religious content have led to a ban on flag-folding recitations by Veterans Administration employees and volunteers at all national cemeteries.

At thousands of military burials, VA volunteers have folded the American flag 13 times and recited the significance of each fold to survivors. The 11th fold glorifies “the God of Abraham,” Isaac and Jacob. The 12th glorifies "God the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost."

Citing a need for uniformity, the National Cemetery Administration has prohibited unpaid VA volunteers as well as employees from conducting the recital at all 125 national cemeteries.

American Legion attorney Rees Lloyd calls it "another attempt by secularist fanatics to cleanse any reference to God."

(Excerpt) Read more at tampabays10.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: militaryfunerals; moralabsolutes; veterans
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1 posted on 10/29/2007 4:44:02 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: SandRat; river rat; wagglebee; JulieRNR21; ExTexasRedhead; T.L.Sink; #1CTYankee; ...

THIS IS UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

Political correctness has reached its way into the Veterans Administration.


2 posted on 10/29/2007 4:45:44 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Citing a need for uniformity

Why is there a need for uniformity? That doesn't make sense!

3 posted on 10/29/2007 4:47:27 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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4 posted on 10/29/2007 4:48:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: SandRat; xzins; Calpernia

Ping


5 posted on 10/29/2007 4:48:49 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Meanwhile, Islamic foot-washing facilities will soon be
placed.


6 posted on 10/29/2007 4:48:58 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This needs to get out on talk radio ASAP. Then watch the public raise hell.


7 posted on 10/29/2007 4:50:20 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Clintonfatigued
Consider this country castrated.
8 posted on 10/29/2007 4:53:47 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; wagglebee; Congressman Billybob; P-Marlowe; jude24; blue-duncan; Calpernia; Sun

I am a retired Army Chaplain. I’ve been through that ceremony more times than I can count. There is nothing wrong with it.

There is also NO WAY that it can be banned.

The chaplain of the honor guard is generally not on active duty with anyone and does not answer to anyone.

I seriously doubt that the “flag police” are going to break up someone’s funeral service.

It is definitely time for civil disobedience.

Besides that, any funeral should be viewed as a service and a family-planned event. Therefore, personal religious sentiment should prevail. If the family doesn’t want it, they don’t do it. If the family doesn’t want Taps, they don’t do it. If the family doesn’t want the Rifle Volley, they don’t do it. I’ve been to too many of these. The family calls the shots. (As it should be.)

There is absolutely nothing here except some overbearing bureaucrat with a thirst for power.

A good congressperson (Duncan Hunter?) should jump all over this!


9 posted on 10/29/2007 4:58:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True support of the troops means praying for US to WIN the war!)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Sick and sad ping


10 posted on 10/29/2007 4:58:34 PM PDT by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: Clintonfatigued

National Cemetery Association? Who the **** are these people and since when do they have the right to tell American Citizens what to say at a funeral?


11 posted on 10/29/2007 5:00:11 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: wagglebee

Already let the Local VFW, American Legion, and Elks know about this they said they;d start hollering at their National HQ’s to apply pressure. Suggest all FReepers do the same.


12 posted on 10/29/2007 5:01:00 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Isn’t it amazing that this is banned, but the antics of Fred Phelps are Constitutionally protected?


13 posted on 10/29/2007 5:03:21 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Does this mean any scripture verse is now banned too?


14 posted on 10/29/2007 5:03:31 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: xzins

Thank you for your informative post.

“The chaplain of the honor guard is generally not on active duty with anyone and does not answer to anyone.”

“It is definitely time for civil disobedience.”

“The family calls the shots. (As it should be.)”

Nails it right on the head. Worth repeating.


15 posted on 10/29/2007 5:03:55 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Not yet, but give them time. Especially if Hitlery becomes President.


16 posted on 10/29/2007 5:04:14 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Don’t even get me started on that Phreak and his Phollowers


17 posted on 10/29/2007 5:04:43 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

There is a petition to Veteran’s Affairs if you are so inclined at www.ingodwetrustusa.org


18 posted on 10/29/2007 5:09:39 PM PDT by GOPToad (Michael Steele loves pubbies!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Just to give you all an update (I'm too tired to dig for the actual link at WorldNetDaily - just take it on Uncle Viking's word or look it up yourself): Rees stated that Legion Riverside Post 79 is going to defy the directive, and continue to recite it, anyway. To paraphrase what one of the state officers said, there's 26 million of us - let them try to cart us all off to jail. There's a reason why I am a member, and this is one of them. One sub-simian malcontent will not provide themselves comfort in their self-made Hell at the expense of the rest of us. Suffer, leave, or die. We don't care anymore.


19 posted on 10/29/2007 5:11:29 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Fred in '08. Deal with it.)
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To: GOPToad; xzins; SandRat; wagglebee

http://www.ingodwetrustusa.org/

Thanks for the link!

: )


20 posted on 10/29/2007 5:12:06 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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