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The Right to Life is an UNALIENABLE right granted to us by God

Posted on 10/28/2007 3:07:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

The purpose of Free Republic is to fight for our freedom, for the constitution, for conservatism and for our traditional American heritage. We recognize that the domestic enemy of freedom is liberalism and big government socialism.

We recognize that our unalienable rights come from God not man or government and, no, they are NOT open to debate or subject to negotiation or compromise.

Sorry, RINOS, but the right to Life is our first unalienable right. This is not just a conservative political "principle" that stubborn right wing fringe nuts refuse to give up. It's an UNALIENABLE right granted to all men by GOD and no man or government can deprive us of same! Not without one hell of a fight!! Compromisers be damned!!


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KEYWORDS: fredthompson; moralabsolutes; prolife
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161 posted on 10/29/2007 7:09:23 AM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: Politicalmom

Prepare to be flamed by the holier-than-thou crowd...even though I agree with you.


162 posted on 10/29/2007 7:12:06 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: ari-freedom

Of course not.

The way I read scripture, and understand history and God’s will, nationalism is, and always has been, part of His plan for humanity.

What does that have to do with the form of government God gave us through the founders of this country, and the principles which have always provided the foundation and framework for its continuation and blessing?

But, that is not to say that God-given rights are not universal. They are. And America still has a calling from God to model these principles to the world. From the very beginning, we were meant to be a shining city on a hill.

Unfortunately, because of a diminuation of the principles in discussion on this thread, that heavenly light has dimmed. For example, tens of millions of children are being slaughtered in the womb in various countries, because of the awful example that has been set for the last 35 years by the people of the United States. “Hey, if the world’s moral exemplar, America, thinks it’s okay, it must be okay, right?”


163 posted on 10/29/2007 7:17:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yesterday, Colorado Right to Life introduced the debut of
a new song written for Personhood by Tony Funderburk.

To hear PERSONHOOD: www.coloradorighttolife.org


164 posted on 10/29/2007 7:29:09 AM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

but we should as part of foreign policy promote a pro-life policy. We can do that. We can also penalize countries that are not pro-life though that is a pretty controversial idea.


165 posted on 10/29/2007 7:32:02 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Jim Robinson; All
I am old enough to recognize when someone is attempting to pull the wool over my eyes. Many in the so-called "Right to Life" movement are nothing more than pretenders and agents-provocateur, seeking to sow the seeds of discord by placing a wedge issue within the ranks of the conservative movement.

I would venture a guess that more infants have been murdered since 1973 than in the preceding 200 years in the United States. That can be squarely laid on the doorstep of pro-lifers who refuse to win the battle incrementally. I will reiterate my position, right-to-lifers have done nothing more provide a foundation to institute a basis for an abortion litmus test and have failed to inform the public about the rights of the unborn. It is better to educate than legislate.

166 posted on 10/29/2007 7:38:22 AM PDT by olde north church (Epitaph for America: We weren't humble enough to be pragmatic.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Amen!!!

To view Dr. Keyes speaking at the 40th commemoration
of America’s first abortion law - passed and signed in Denver
April 25, 1967 -

www.coloradorighttolife.org


167 posted on 10/29/2007 7:49:19 AM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Aboslutely true!!

Bob Enyart has done some shows on Ron Paul’s
error in judgment in this regard, as well as the
numerous moral problems with the Libertarian
Party.

www.kgov.com


168 posted on 10/29/2007 8:02:04 AM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

So Jim, I take this as an unequivocal “non” endorsement of Rudy Gulianni???

Don’t shoot the messenger!!! I’ve been hip to this concept a lot longer than some...

;-)


169 posted on 10/29/2007 8:28:23 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Kimberly GG

Yep!


170 posted on 10/29/2007 8:34:29 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: John Valentine
Duncan Hunter has at least as many anti-conservative demerits as Fred Thompson.

Yeah? When listed side by side,you are wrong. Maybe you ought to dig up one of those charts and take a look. Or check a voting record, if those sort of things have anything to do with you picking a candidate.

171 posted on 10/29/2007 8:36:32 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: JudgemAll

That’s insane.

You have no right to impose your “morals” on others and that would cause the death of MILLIONS more babies.

People do use contraception while MARRIED, you know. I have four children. I can’t handle any more, either physically or financially. That’s MY decision, and my husband’s, it certainly isn’t YOURS.


172 posted on 10/29/2007 8:41:29 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: papasmurf

I will not retract. Fred Thompson, along with most of this presidential field, thinks federalism means that states get to decide if the God-given right to life may be alienated. That is clear, from his own words, right up to the current day.

As to your piece from James Wilson, even he makes it clear that babes in the womb are protected by the law. I refuse to use his feeble eighteenth century understanding of the process of development of the child in the womb as any sort of guide, just as I refuse to use Aristotle’s fourth century BC understanding of the same matters.

Do you believe that human life begins at conception, and that the child in the womb is a person, fully endowed with the God-given, unalienable right to life, as the Reagan pro-life platform asserts?

Do you believe, along with some of the ancients, that human life only begins at some arbitrary point archaically known as “quickening”? Is this what you are arguing, that they, or Mr. Wilson over two hundred years ago, are somehow correct?


173 posted on 10/29/2007 8:45:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: ari-freedom
but we should as part of foreign policy promote a pro-life policy.

Those that I work with have had an active role in making that a reality in public policy for decades.

174 posted on 10/29/2007 8:54:24 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: AuntB

on fiscal issues Hunter is not so great.


175 posted on 10/29/2007 9:11:17 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: olde north church

It is better to educate than legislate.
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I don’t understand why there is no anti-abortion ad campaign while we wait for Roe v wade to be overturned. There are govt ad campaigns against drugs and smoking.


176 posted on 10/29/2007 9:21:16 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: olde north church; Jim Robinson; cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; narses; 8mmMauser; Sun; Lesforlife; ...
I am old enough to recognize when someone is attempting to pull the wool over my eyes. Many in the so-called "Right to Life" movement are nothing more than pretenders and agents-provocateur, seeking to sow the seeds of discord by placing a wedge issue within the ranks of the conservative movement.

Well, looking back at your other posts, I would offer this translation:
You're a RINO who wishes the conservatives would just leave.

I would venture a guess that more infants have been murdered since 1973 than in the preceding 200 years in the United States. That can be squarely laid on the doorstep of pro-lifers who refuse to win the battle incrementally.

Yes, 50 MILLION infants have been murdered. But, "incrementalism" is the way that leftists promote Marxist-socialism. Conservatives ARE NOT incrementalists, we ARE NOT going to settle for "targetted decreases" in abortion rate or whatever you and your RINO ilk propose. This is murder and it's time to end it, and incremental reduction STILL MEANS MILLIONS OF DEAD BABIES.

I will reiterate my position, right-to-lifers have done nothing more provide a foundation to institute a basis for an abortion litmus test and have failed to inform the public about the rights of the unborn. It is better to educate than legislate.

And with RINOs like you that has been difficult. You can say whatever you want about incrementalism, but the reality is that you and your ilk want the pro-life movement to go away so you can go back to being just like the 'Rats.

177 posted on 10/29/2007 9:29:30 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: AuntB
Yeah?

Yeah.

Go tilt some windmills, why don't you.

178 posted on 10/29/2007 9:36:06 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: wagglebee

I’ll second that.


179 posted on 10/29/2007 9:44:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: harrowup
Party platforms are sops for saps and peanuts for peons.

Discussion degenerating into name calling...............typical, typical, typical.........

Let me repeat..........Apparently, you have not taken the time to read the 2004 Republican Party Platform, notably the part(s) addressing abortion.................

180 posted on 10/29/2007 9:44:35 AM PDT by AwesomePossum
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