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Posted on 10/26/2007 9:52:51 PM PDT by Turborules

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(http://www.lucianne.com/short_cuts.asp) has been determined by Google's testing to be a site that hosts or distributes badware.

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To: JerseyHighlander

It’s not impossible to know, if you read the thread. In this case, it seems the thread starter is not having an issue with Google, but rather an issue with his computer: not only have other FReepers logged on the site with no difficulty, but he’s just said that his wife, using a different computer with the same IP, can access the site just fine.

But hey, when has FR ever passed on a chance to bash something?


41 posted on 10/26/2007 10:50:58 PM PDT by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: Turborules
"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost." - Thomas Jefferson

"I believe that all entities, whether government or free-market, need to protect the sanctity of free speech. This is a basic civic responsibility. Those who do not are cowards. Sadly, we live in an era where civic responsibility is disposable, considered a burden instead of a privilege." - Frank Salvato, publisher of The New Media Journal

They banned The New Media Journal. They banned MichNews.com. They banned The Jawa Report. Google is on a political and ideological campaign of political correctness that sees them denying access to their service to any website - be it news, opinion or a hybrid of both - that dares to address the subject of radical Islam.

Click here to see the original email from "The Google News Team."

This sets a dangerous precedent. What will the next subject be that serves as a catalyst for Google to promote their unique brand of corporate censorship? Which website will be the next to have it's Internet presence diminished at the hands of Google's "progressive" ideological agenda? WorldNetDaily? JihadWatch? NewsMax?

It is because of this - and our dedication to American Free Enterprise and the free market - that we have established The Anti-Google Search Engine Index. This index offers an ever-expanding list of search engines, many more comprehensive and many who do not manipulate content based on the ideology of political correctness.

We urge you to switch from using Google as your search engine and try the ones listed below. If you would like to suggest a search engine for inclusion on the list click here. Bear in mind that if the search engine you are suggesting charges for inclusion, a complimentary submission of The New Media Journal in the index will be required.

We may not be able to force Google to stop censoring free speech, but we can affect their bottom line. A
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42 posted on 10/26/2007 10:52:32 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

Or bookmark this site where hte list of Google alternatives is hosted:

http://www.newmediajournal.us/daily_columns/anti-google_search_engine_index.htm


43 posted on 10/26/2007 10:53:10 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Don W; devolve

[I’m never wrong, but I have been mistaken.]

LOL!! That is funny!

I run my scans often and do pick up some adware because I do searches for images for my graphics. Lucianne has a lot of ads now so they probably do put cookies on us.


44 posted on 10/26/2007 10:55:28 PM PDT by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: Terpfen

Sorry, you are misreading the situation.

Nefarious individuals coalesce around the idea of banning/blocking/denying access of conservative websites, they either find enough individuals to join their cause, or they build or rent out a botnet to send in abuse/spam/malware/ hate speech/child pornography complaints to various companies and organizations that maintain services that are blocklists. These companies include StopBadware.org, NetNanny, CastleCops etc.

FR has been blocked in the past through this method various times too. http://censorware.net/articles/01/06/16/0322210.shtml
http://www.google.com/search?q=freerepublic+blocked+at+ork&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Google has a problem because they are actively supporting (financially, publicity wise, and legally) non profits who have active members who are actively sending in false complaints against conservative websites. It’s very cozy on their side.


45 posted on 10/26/2007 11:00:49 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Turborules
Maybe it's because they are running THIS STORY ON GOOGLE AND MOVE ON on Lucianne ?
46 posted on 10/26/2007 11:02:15 PM PDT by papasmurf (sudo apt - get install FRed Thompson)
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To: padre35; Turborules

Yeah. Use DOGPILE

Firefox will automatically add it to your search engine window (navigation bar, far right) right after you first use it.


47 posted on 10/26/2007 11:06:21 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Terpfen

Consider that no one had a gun to their head...

I find it very easy to lay blame where it belongs...

Considering the Govt in place there...


48 posted on 10/26/2007 11:07:03 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Turborules

Go to download.com and get

CRAP CLEANER (CCLEANER) or ATF-Cleaner

Then you have all the options and it is quick and easy.


49 posted on 10/26/2007 11:08:48 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Turborules

I would recommend ADAWARE, SPYBOT S+D at a minimum.

If you want some really useful, and extremely cool software, get Zilla WinCleaner.

The Graphic interface is a light-year ahead of anything else on the market (and it’s totally free).


50 posted on 10/26/2007 11:14:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Crim
Consider that no one had a gun to their head...

You DO realize we're talking about China, right?
51 posted on 10/26/2007 11:17:07 PM PDT by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: UCANSEE2

thanks to all of you... I have done all the things to IE to clean the History files...still I got this web page:

Warning - visiting this web site may harm your computer! - the page you are about to visit may be a web forgery!
You can learn more about malware and how to protect yourself at StopBadware.org. This page is very likely to have been designed to trick users into sharing personal or financial information. Entering any personal information on this page may result in identity theft or other fraud.

You can read more about phishing here antiphishing.org.

Or you can continue to http://lucianne.com/ at your own risk.

You can also turn off safe browsing warnings by going to Google Desktop preferences.

Would you like to help make the web safer by always sending information to Google about sites with suspicious links?

Advisory provided by

My opinion that this is random, but much more common than we think! I am mad as hell about this intrusion!!!


52 posted on 10/26/2007 11:18:59 PM PDT by Turborules
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To: Turborules

New questions raised on
Google, MoveOn.org relationship
The Examiner [Washington, DC], by Robert Cox

Original Article

Posted By:Desert Fox, 10/26/2007 8:03:20 PM

WASHINGTON - Internal documents obtained by The Examiner shine new light on MoveOn.org’s “General Betray Us” ad and raise fresh questions about the far-left advocacy group’s misleading statements on the issue and its relationship with Google, a major donor to its political action committee. The documents show how MoveOn.org used dubious claims of trademark infringement and threats of litigation to silence critics of its recent controversial full-page ad in The New York Times attacking Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. general in Iraq...

Comments:
Source corrected.
Reply 1 - Posted by: Devil Air, 10/26/2007 8:18:58 PM

Scum. I removing Giggalo from “all” of my pc’s now and will do the same at work where I have over 40 machines.

Reply 2 - Posted by: stockfootage, 10/26/2007 8:27:56 PM

A short note about the Examiner. It’s a free newspaper that tends to lean a little to the right. It’s been through many transformations in the past 25 years but has emerged as a much better paper than the SF Comical. A breath of fresh air for a conservative in this sea of leftist insanity.

Google, like all the high-tech software giants, will implode within the next ten years- maybe not fast enough, but it will happen.

Microsoft has been an extraordinary exception to the rule.

Reply 3 - Posted by: cap MarineTet68, 10/26/2007 8:34:49 PM

Scummy bastids. I hereby stop using Google.
FYI, mega-trawlers such as Dogpile use Google.

Reply 4 - Posted by: Tulsa, 10/26/2007 8:50:37 PM

I use:

http://search.yahoo.com/

and have for some time.

Reply 5 - Posted by: excalgalcg, 10/26/2007 8:57:47 PM

Thank you posters. Google appears on my homepage search box. Not any more.

Reply 6 - Posted by: slickwillie2001, 10/26/2007 9:13:16 PM

Re Google’s claimed corporate standards, if you wanted to advertise the anti-Wal-Mart site I’m sure they would have no problem using the Wal-Mart name.

Reply 7 - Posted by: lcl4, 10/26/2007 9:15:28 PM

Off to take a long very hot shower!

Reply 8 - Posted by: RepublicanGopher, 10/26/2007 9:30:28 PM

FROM: The Resurrection of Al Gore
WIRED Magazine, May 2006
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.05/gore_pr.html

[Al Gore spoke in uncharacteristically personal and passionate terms [...] There, at tables topped with earth-shaped ice sculptures melting symbolically in the warmth of surrounding votive candles, guests mingled with Gore and his wife, Tipper, [...] “I need your help here,” an emotional Gore pleaded at the end of the evening. “Working together, we can find the technologies and the political will to solve this problem.” The crowd fell hard. “People were surprised,” says Wendy Schmidt, who helped organize the event and, with her husband, Google CEO Eric Schmidt, supported Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign. “They think of a slide show about science, they think of Al Gore. But they come out later and say, ‘He’s funny, he’s passionate, he’s real.’”]

Reply 9 - Posted by: wrw90, 10/26/2007 9:46:37 PM

More BS from radical liberals at Google.

We pulled google off of all of the computers at our company. I don’t want their politics influencing what information is displayed to our people.

Reply 10 - Posted by: golfer1, 10/26/2007 10:27:26 PM

I stopped using Google when they sold out to the Chinese. I use Ask.com...no problems with their usability...

Reply 11 - Posted by: gop_guys, 10/26/2007 10:45:51 PM

I’m guessing those two dudes at google are partners in the Biblical sense. They’ve made their billions...now let me make mine without the govmint getting it all.

Reply 12 - Posted by: Ad Lucem, 10/26/2007 10:56:22 PM

Speaking of which, what about their relationship with Communist China? There’s just too many coincidencec here to go unnoticed, n’est pas?

Reply 13 - Posted by: Newtsche, 10/26/2007 11:20:19 PM

Scroogle

Reply 14 - Posted by: Trust No One, 10/26/2007 11:33:00 PM

Reply 15 - Posted by: Trust No One, 10/26/2007 11:38:58 PM

Sorry about that.

I downloaded google task bar.

How do I get rid of it?

Reply 16 - Posted by: huptel, 10/27/2007 12:14:20 AM

Just got rid of my google news page and got rid of google search.

Reply 17 - Posted by: bla bla, 10/27/2007 12:27:19 AM

I use Cranky.

And, It’s geared toward Baby Boomers — that would be me.

Reply 18 - Posted by: PaleAle, 10/27/2007 1:09:19 AM

I removed google from my machines a couple years ago when they sold out to the ChiComs, and have been pretty happy with Vivisimo.

Reply 19 - Posted by: HotRodLincoln, 10/27/2007 1:17:20 AM

I remoogled my Google.

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53 posted on 10/26/2007 11:26:35 PM PDT by Turborules
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To: Turborules

Here is the immediate work around:

problem - when you use google.com to search for “lucianne.com” the first result, www.lucianne.com is blocked by google’s use of StopBadware.org filtering service.

solution - on the top of the page click on the “Preferences” link next to the Search button.
Scroll down to
SafeSearch Filtering. Select the radio button next to “Do not filter my search results.”

scroll down and click Save Preferences button.

go back to google.com and search lucianne.com again. Clicking on the result will now bring you to Lucainne.com’s homepage.


54 posted on 10/26/2007 11:26:50 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Turborules

You can complain to Google's SafeSearch department here:

http://www.google.com/support/bin/request.py?form_type=user&stage=fm&user_type=user&contact_type=dissatisfied 

55 posted on 10/26/2007 11:29:04 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Terpfen
No - this is an issue with Google claiming that Lucianne.com is a possible source of badware.

If you search on Google for "lucianne.com", you get the following search results:



Notice the line "This site may harm your computer." right below the first search result title:

And notice if you click on the first search result, you don't go to Lucianne.com, but rather to a Warning page:

Warning - visiting this web site may harm your computer!

 You can learn more about harmful web content and how to protect your computer at StopBadware.org.

 Suggestions: Or you can continue to http://www.lucianne.com/short_cuts.asp at your own risk.


Advisory provided by Google

Looking around the http://www.stopbadware.org web site, I find they provide the following explanation for why they are marking Lucianne as a possible badware site:

Warning

This site is currently being reviewed
Submit Additional Comments

(http://www.lucianne.com/) has been determined by Google's testing to be a site that hosts or distributes badware.

What is this page?
You landed on this page because Google's independent testing has found that some portion of the site you were attempting to reach contains or links to badware or otherwise violates software guidelines of both Google and StopBadware. See the StopBadware FAQ for more information on Google warning pages. StopBadware's researchers have not reviewed this website. If they do, this warning page will be replaced with a detailed report. To see the reports we've done to date, click here.


That's right - Google is saying that StopBadware has found this site to possibly be distributing badware, but the only report that StopBadware has against Lucianne.com is from Google's own testing.

If I were paranoid, I'd suspect that Google had labeled Lucianne.com as a possible source of badware because Lucianne.com has a negative report on Google on its front page:



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56 posted on 10/26/2007 11:32:48 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
No - I suspect you are misreading the situation this time.

See my previous post above. StopBadware.org claims that the only reason they have labled Lucianne.org suspect is because Google.com's testing has reported a problem with Lucianne.com to StopBadware.org.

So this time I don't think this was the result of other anonymous nefarious individuals, unless they found some indirect way to poison Google.com's testing.

57 posted on 10/26/2007 11:35:45 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: Turborules
I don't think this is a problem with your computer.

I'm getting to, as I carefully documented in a prior post above. Google.com's testing has reported to StopBadware.org that there is a problem with the Lucianne.com web site, causing Google search results for Lucianne.org to redirect the search result links through this Warning page.

You might have confused the discussion a bit by also mentioning that you could not get to Lucianne.com for a few days:

but your most recent problem, of this StopBadware.org Warning is real.
58 posted on 10/26/2007 11:39:43 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

We’ll find out in a day or two.

http://www.stopbadware.org/home/appealhistory?reportmatch=549609


59 posted on 10/26/2007 11:43:43 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
Good link - thanks.

For the record (just in case things change in the middle of the night), that link goes to a StopBadware.org page stating:


Review History for (www.lucianne.com/)

Clearinghouse
Site added to clearinghouse: 10/25/2007

Request for Review Recieved
Request Recieved: 10/25/2007

Request for Review Recieved
Request Recieved: 10/25/2007

Review Request Initiated: 37476
Created: 10/26/2007
Last Updated: 10/26/2007
Status: Review Request in process

60 posted on 10/26/2007 11:56:23 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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