Posted on 10/26/2007 8:12:47 AM PDT by SJackson
As One Who Stood Against Horowitz
As a current Emory student who stood with my back turned during Horowitz's speech, I would like to respond to those who have called my actions 'disgraceful.' I made the choice to stand silently while he spoke; however, I do not condemn those who yelled out. While Horowitz claims he is willing to engage in free and open debate with those who disagree with his views, we arrived to the event Wednesday night to a few stacks of index cards with instructions to write our questions down. I believe that it was this situation that led many to shout out, feeling their voices would not be heard otherwise. Along these lines, I would point out that when disrupted by the audience Horowitz chose to actively agitate the crowd. Had he responded that he would be willing to engage in debate after the speech, there would have been a much better chance that the disruption would have calmed. Instead, he resorted to name-calling.
Leaving the building, a member of the Emory College Republicans told me that Horowitz's security detail made the decision to end the speech. Later, they wrote on his website that he had to leave under 'tight security.' Anyone in attendance knows that there was no time in which Horowitz was in any type of physical danger. At this point, as much as I hate toâ¦and I really hate to, I have to give a bit of credit to Ann Coulter. Another speaker for "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week," she has encountered just as much, if not more, disruption at her events and she has yet to flee the stage.
Let me be clear: Horowitz chose to end this event. He was never under any physical threat and although there were many disruptions by people shouting out, it quickly quieted down each time. Crying on his blog that the 'fascists' broke up the event, he chose to run away rather than face a determined opposition. When did protest become a fascist activity?! Later in his blog entry just after the event Horowitz writes, "As I have said many times, there should be zero tolerance for disrupters at campus events, and that means a sufficient police presence to eject the barbarians when they enter the gates." This is the Horowitz brand of "academic freedom," pre-emptive police action against protestors. Is that what you want for our campus? It has been said that this is an embarrassing event for Emory. Apathy and complicity are embarrassing. I believe that it is much more dangerous letting hate and half truths go unchallenged. You can disagree with me on that, but let's realize the opportunity we have to debate. This can be a positive event if it sparks real dialogue and forces people to engage with issues of race, discrimination, and freedom.
During the confusion after Horowitz initially left the stage a man sitting beside me asked, "Who raised you people?" Two people who voted for Bush in the last election raised me. Two Christians raised me. Two well educated and well respected individuals raised me. Most importantly, my parents raised me to stand up when I see hate and wrong in the world. They raised me to protest injustice. So I stood. Call me a fascist; call me a barbarian; arrest me. I will continue to stand.
Report on David Horowitz Speaking Event at Emory University October 24th
David Horowitz stopped his own speech mid-way through his event at Emory University, and in typical fashion is claiming to be the victim of the âfascist left.â The headline on IncorrectU.com is already screaming "Leftists Force Horowitz from Stage "Shut Down Free Speech at Emory!!!" Let's be honest: he walked off the stage himself and decided not to return, due to the overwhelming opposition being expressed in the auditorium.
Tuesday's edition of the Emory Wheel published a half-page ad announcing Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week and inviting the public to attend David Horowitz's speech Wednesday night. In a previous edition of the Wheel, College Republicans stated that they hadn't invited Horowitz to speak at Emory, but he had actually invited himself.
When people arrived at the auditorium, there were flyers and orange armbands being passed out, but many people had already gotten flyers earlier in the week on campus and were already wearing orange. Some people also wore green based on the Facebook campaign to show solidarity with Muslims that day. The College Republicans had a table at the entrance and were informing people that if they wanted to ask questions, they were to write them down on index cards and turn them in - that people would not be allowed to directly pose questions after the speech.
The lecture hall was filled with at least 200 people, about 80% of whom were in opposition to Horowitz. Most were wearing orange armbands, creating a visible presence of opposition in the room. A member of Veterans for Peace had 2 large posters with pictures of Iraqi children killed by the U.S. war and occupation. A couple of other people had posters, one saying "Dissent Free Zone, Brought to You by David Horowitz," and another with pictures from Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo with the caption, "Islamo-Fascism??" The crowd was a mix of mostly undergraduate and graduate students from Emory with some from other colleges, faculty, political activists, Black Muslims from a local Mosque, and the general public. There was a large presence of Muslim students.
When Horowitz came onto the stage, he was met with a combination of applause and loud booing. As he started his speech, several people sequentially stood up and turned their backs to the speaker. Signs pinned on their backs had the international no symbol over the words IFAW. As he continued his speech, different people in the audience interjected questions and corrections. More people stood up and turned their backs, and this emboldened others in the audience to continue to challenge Horowitz as he spoke. Horowitz was visibly taken aback by the opposition and stopped his speech several times, having difficulty getting back on track. His retorts to the audience consisted of childish name calling, disparaging the IQ of the audience. Some people in the crowd vocally opposed the disruptions and called for silence.
This went on for about 20 minutes, at which point there were about 25 people standing with their backs turned. The campus security then stopped the program and announced that if people didnât sit down or move to the back of the auditorium, they would be escorted out. At that point, one person shouted âEveryone stand up â they canât haul us all out!â Others echoed the same sentiment, and several people said, "Don't Taser Me, Bro." About 20 or 30 more people stood up and turned their backs. This created a lot of turmoil and heated discussion throughout the room. During this period, Horowitz walked off the stage. A chant broke out, "Racist, Sexist, Anti-Gay, David Horowitz Go Away." After a few minutes, a College Republican came on stage and announced that David Horowitz decided that he would not continue his speech, and they ended the event.
Horowitz could have continued despite the vocal opposition, as other speakers on the IFAW tour apparently have done this week under similar circumstances. It was clear that the majority of the audience was determined to continue interacting with him throughout his speech, since there was not going to be an open question and answer period at the end.
Many small group debates broke out at that point, with the main question being whether it was good or bad that people weren't able to hear Horowitz's entire speech. People with a deep understanding of who Horowitz is and his agenda of playing the victim while organizing attacks on dissent and critical thinking on campuses, creating a pogromist atmosphere against Muslims, and preparing the groundwork for war on Iran, argued that it was crucial to expose his lies and demand that he answer to what the United States is doing to people here and around the world. Others, while opposed to Horowitz's position, argued that they still had wanted to hear what he had to say in person, and were very upset that they were prevented from doing so. Some thought that his right to free speech had been violated, and that this would taint Emory's reputation. Others were overjoyed and inspired by the strength of the opposition.
In one group discussion, someone summed up that âI think what happened was fine, because if Horowitz continued his speech he would have told more lies, selectively chosen the questions to answer, and then instead of this controversy, people would have been outside in the hallway complaining about the fact that their voices weren't heard.'
David Horowitz's immediate blog on Frontpagemag.com concluded, "Universities like Emory are paying the price of not taking care of the important task of establishing a campus decorum appropriate to civilized discussion. As I have said many times, there should be zero tolerance for disrupters at campus events, and that means a sufficient police presence to eject the barbarians when they enter the gates."
Just as with everything David Horowitz puts out, this statement must be critically dissected. There are 3 things to say about this:
1. The required âcampus decorum for civilized discussion,â in the world according to Horowitz, includes free reign for his claims that Blacks owe a debt to white America for slavery and that the Muslim Student Association is a front for Islamo-Fascist Jihad; Ann Coulter's statements that in the 'war on terror' we should 'invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity;" and Rick Santorum's calls to eliminate birth control and keep women out of the workforce. And of course, "civilized discussion" cannot include critiques of the official history of this country and its current role in the world, or Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, as expressed by Ward Churchill and Norm Finkelstein or any of the other "dangerous" professors targeted for removal from their universities.
2. The policy of âzero tolerance for disrupters,â in the world according to Horowitz, does not extend to College Republicans who answer his call to sit in at Women's Studies departments during IFAW.
3. "Sufficient police presence to eject the barbarians when they enter the gates" amounts to nothing less than a call for pre-emptive police powers to clamp down on any potential dissent.
Copy of a letter i sent to the emory wheel editors. for your information.
I read your article covering the David Horowitz speaking event with both interest and dismay. The article left out some key facts about the event and "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week" in general. Why the headlines about "outsiders shutting it down" when the organizers admitted that many Emory students were clearly involved? Additionally, the advertisement Horowitz's crew put in the Emory Wheel promoting this event stated that it was a public event being hosted on campus.
The audience was not going to be allowed to field open questions (as was made clear by the 3x5 index cards outside the event that people were asked to write their questions on) and if the speech had not been disrupted, what this guy had to say would have been recorded as having occurred largely unopposed. The Emory Wheel refused to print a paid ad from a leftist group criticizing Bush\'s threats of war on Iran shortly before the speech (even though Horowitz has advertised in the Wheel both this week and in the past). Certainly not an atmosphere of free debate, still less a \"leftist dictatorship on campus\" as Horowitz might spin it.
The pinnacle of hypocrisy, however, is the fact that the "Student's Guide to Hosting Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week" itself calls for "sit-ins in Women's Studies Departments and campus Women\'s Centers to protest their silence about the oppression of women in Islam" ( http://media0.terrorismawareness.org/files/Islamo-Fascmism-Awareness-Week-Guide.html [sic]). I've heard that at Emory, the Women\'s Studies department sent emails around warning instructors about disruptions in their classes this week. In his summation of Wednesday night's event, Horowitz wrote on his website, "[T]here should be zero tolerance for disrupters at campus events" ( Frontpagemag.com).
It sounds like Horowitz got a taste of his own medicine - and didn''t like it.
-Jay Pasinelli, "Outsider"
Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade, Atlanta
Organizing at Emory
Visit their Facebook page.
David Horowitz will be speaking as a part of this week at Emory University on October 24th. He is being brought to Emory by the College Republicans.
Based off of the original call some plans have been made to reach out to people at Emory University to raise awareness about the fascist offensive initiated by Horowitz. Come out to support and help spread the word on this campus, and if you go to another school you can also bring materials back and organize your classmates to come out and make our presence known at the Horowitz event on the 24th.
WEAR ORANGE, the color of torture victims in Guantanamo Bay and turn it into a color of MASS OPPOSITION!
Monday, October 15: Asbury Circle on Emory Campus @ 1pm, help take out flyers and ORANGE!!!
Tuesday, October 16: "State of Race" @ Emory at Glenn Memorial @ 7pm
Tuesday, October 16: Sonya Sanchez @ Woodruff Library 6pm
Wed., October 17: Jena 6 Townhall @ White Hall at 6:30 pm
Saturday, October 20: Meet up to finalize plans for Horowitz's appearance at Emory. 1pm @ Inman Perk Coffee (Across from Emory) 1593 N. Decatur Road, Atlanta, GA 30307
As to the dangers, the protesters made his point for him.
Nothing more need be known about them.
Adolph would be so proud of these guys.
Great IDEA!
Under this guy’s premise, Ann Coulter SHOULD be able to go on stage following every Hillary! speech and rebut all the points she tried to make.
The only time a leftist wants to debate... is when he’s defending reprehensible behavior.
They'll have to wait on their inheritance to have the good life ~ and even then they'll never have good credit ratings.
These are the college grads you see running cashregisters at the Safeway.
Was it O’Rourke that stated:
“Liberalism is the application of childish emotion to complex issues”?
I sort of stole that line as my own, since I couldn’t find the original quotation.
...Scalia and Thomas can write in bold strokes because they base their opinions on what is actually written in the document.
When you have to pretend that you believe that the Constitution actually matters while in fact you believe its language to be an obstacle to social progress, your language is not going to be as confident...
The lie, for all its power, always trembles in the face of truth.
8 posted on 07/08/2007 10:56:48 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you dont inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctorPaul Johnson) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1862843/posts?page=8#8
But the same people greated Amadinjad with applause!!
Unreal!
Dear Mr. Wagner, I am the parent of 3 high school students and we are starting our college search. Your University was of interest because it fit in with my kids academic qualifications, but I am crossing it off the list due to the recent incident with the Horowitz speech. If you can't control a small crowd during a speech, then I can only wonder how poorly will you control my kid's safety on campus?
In addition, you even had two admininstrators at the event, a vice-provost and a vice president and you still couldn't control the crowd to let the man speak! I've seen the video of the event. I also have to wonder if the seemingly tacit approval (by lack of any crowd control) of the crowd antics towards a conservative speaker will mean that my child will not get a diversified education and will instead get a left-wing indoctrination. If that's the case, then I'll spend my $45,000 a year elsewhere. I don't buy shoddy merchandise.
If you’re taking flak, you must be over the target. Good work, David!
So that's why! Ever since the Left's disruptive and often violent activities of the 1960s I've pondered, Why?
All along it was those wicked index cards.
There's got to be a way of controlling who can own those things.
If more parents thought and did as you have, this problem would go away in a hurry.
Gee..the author said it was "quiet" and that Horowitz "chose to stop his speech". Who would continue to speak with such a chant filling the room?
Of course that day they were immediatly stopped and escorted out leaving us to enjoy his great contribution.
LOL
... is this sophomoric attempt to justify the unjustifiable. Have you ever noticed how children and hypocrites can always manufacture the exception to the rule? How something is always wrong when someone else does it, but is okay when I do? So sexual harrassment is bad when Anita Hill ALLEGES it is done to her by Clarence Thomas, but when it is PROVEN to have been done by Bill Clinton, the feminists remain strangely silent. Video games and wanton behavior on TV don't have any influence on cultural values, but Rush Limbaugh is twisting peoples' minds with his commentary on the radio. And when David Horowitz mounts a campaign to educate students about killers in their midst, he is a bad guy, so it's logically consistent to shout him down and still be champion of free speech.
So this loser says he supports censoring David Horowitz because he expects college students to be able to write?
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