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Giuliani Defends, Employs Priest Accused of Molesting Teens
ABC News ^ | 23 Oct 2007 | BRIAN ROSS and AVNI PATEL

Posted on 10/23/2007 9:27:58 AM PDT by BGHater

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To: Triple

Yes but he also helped to keep hidden, other pedophiles.


41 posted on 10/23/2007 10:55:48 AM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: gidget7

I hope ABC runs all over the place with this.


42 posted on 10/23/2007 10:58:41 AM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: isrul

It doesn’t sound like the church has reached a determination in this priest’s case yet...but the fact that he’s a friend of Rudy’s seems to be sufficient evidence that he’s guilty for some people.


43 posted on 10/23/2007 11:03:23 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Let's see the Rooty Rooters try to make excuses for this!

44 posted on 10/23/2007 11:07:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: commonguymd
So to I.

BTW, Hi commonguy! Haven’t seen you here in a while, but then I am not that observant unless a post is to me LOL

45 posted on 10/23/2007 11:08:25 AM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: wagglebee

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46 posted on 10/23/2007 11:09:43 AM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Old Professer

I keep thinking about “birds of a feather flock together”.


47 posted on 10/23/2007 11:09:57 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: phillyfanatic; scarface367; Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee; blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; BGHater; RedRover; ...

Rudy supports gay unions.

His protected priest friend molested BOYS.

When you get Pro-Life wrong, you get EVERYTHING wrong.

Duncan Hunter is the real conservative in this race.


48 posted on 10/23/2007 11:13:01 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: Verginius Rufus
It doesn’t sound like the church has reached a determination in this priest’s case yet...

Not even remotely accurate, as the article itself makes plain. Evidently the church diocese itself investigated the claims and found them credible enough to warrant the following actions:

While no longer allowed to perform priestly duties or appear in public as a priest [...] and told by the church to stop performing his priestly duties.

These are not the standard punishments applied to any priest who is merely under "investigation," but (rather) those routinely utilized once investigators for the church diocese in question have -- after careful weighing of all the available evidence -- "reached a determination," and one demonstrably not favorable towards the actions and/or motivations of the priest being investigated.

Bishops do not effectively defrock priests, willy-nilly, solely on the whim of the moment.

49 posted on 10/23/2007 11:14:04 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: elk

Ping to article and #48


50 posted on 10/23/2007 11:14:16 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: BGHater; Liz; indylindy; TommyDale; Spiff; dirtboy; Extremely Extreme Extremist

I thought it was amazing when freepers defended an abortion lover... and then a homosexual enabler... and then a gun grabber.
But to now see them defending a defrocked priest accused of child molestation (and enabling other child molesters),
all in an apparent zeal to defend Rudy, beats all.


51 posted on 10/23/2007 11:14:21 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: wagglebee
Let's see the Rooty Rooters try to make excuses for this!

Check the thread; many of them are energetically (if ineffectually) attempting precisely that! ;)

52 posted on 10/23/2007 11:15:24 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: BGHater

I don’t like Rudy, but in defense of his position in this particular situation, isn’t a person innocent until proven guilty?


53 posted on 10/23/2007 11:15:28 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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bump!


54 posted on 10/23/2007 11:17:52 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: commonguymd
I say beat the drum and hopefully this will take Rudy out.

There are plenty of drums we can beat to take Rudy out. I would not be supportive of beating any drum that could ruin a man for life who may be innocent of the charges leveled against him - particularly charges such as these that could ruin his life.

55 posted on 10/23/2007 11:18:58 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Calpernia
"Alan Placa is one of the finest people I know. He has helped thousands of people as a priest, as a teacher and as a friend. ... If most people did half the good that Alan's done, the world would be a wonderful place."
--Rudy Giuliani
“I am able to give some of my time to helping other bishops and religious congregations with delicate legal problems involving the misconduct of priests. ... In the past 10 years, I have been involved in more than two hundred such cases in various parts of the country."
--Alan J. Placa

Who is Alan Placa? And what are his many connections to Rudy Giuliani?

Monsignor Alan J. Placa, a former high-ranking adviser in the Diocese of Rockville Centre on Long Island, New York.

• One of Giuliani's two oldest and dearest childhood friends.

• 1960s - Together with Giuliani, attended Bishop Loughlin Memorial High School in Brooklyn and Manhattan College.

• 1968 - Served as Giuliani's best man in his first wedding, to Regina Peruggi.

• 1970 - Ordained a priest

• 1983 - Credited with finding the loophole that allowed the Vatican to annul Giuliani's first marriage from Regina Peruggi (second cousins)

• 1984 - Officiated at Giuliani's second marriage to Donna Hanover.

• 1986/89 - Baptized Giuliani's children from his second marriage, Caroline and Andrew.

• Early 1990s - Florida property transferred to Placa's name by his friend Rev. Thomas A. Kane shortly before Kane declared bankruptcy. Kane was the co-founder and former director of the House of Affirmation in Massachusetts, a treatment center for priests with sex abuse and other problems. Kane left the House of Affirmations in 1986 amid allegations of financial impropriety; the facility closed in 1989. Alan Placa acted as a lawyer for the House of Affirmation, settling sexual abuse cases.

• Jan 1994 - At Giuliani's swearing-in ceremony for his first term as mayor, Placa said a prayer for the new mayor before he took the oath of office.

• 2000 - Ministered to Giuliani when he was suffering from prostate cancer.

• Sep 2001 - Giuliani asked his staff to consult with Placa on canon law and how to expedite declarations of death and payments of life insurance policies to families for those missing in the 9/11 disaster.

• Apr 2002 - Placa removed by Bishop William Murphy of the Diocese of Rockville Centre from a panel investigating clerical sexual abuse after several families claimed Placa had used his role as a spiritual adviser to get information from victims that would bolster the diocese's legal position.

• Jun 2002 - Placa on leave from the Diocese after allegations surfaced that he molested a teenage seminarian about 25 years ago.

• Sep 2002 - Placa receives special permission from Diocese to preside over the funeral of Giuliani's mother, Helen Giuliani.

• Feb 2003 - Grand Jury report released outlining allegations against Placa of sexual abuse involvement in cover-up of priest sex-abuse scandals.

• Aug 2003 - Begins employment at Giuliani Partners, as an attorney, where partner Michael Hess, the ex-mayor's corporation counsel, also handled Placa's legal matters.


56 posted on 10/23/2007 11:19:14 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: normy

ping to article


57 posted on 10/23/2007 11:20:22 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: calcowgirl

bttt


58 posted on 10/23/2007 11:21:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: MEGoody; BGHater; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; xzins; trisham
I don’t like Rudy, but in defense of his position in this particular situation, isn’t a person innocent until proven guilty?

Would I be correct in assuming that you believed Bill Clinton back in January, 1998 when he said, "I did not have sex with this woman"? Or do liberals of ill-repute only get a pass from you if they have an "R" after their name?

59 posted on 10/23/2007 11:24:11 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MEGoody

“I don’t like Rudy, but in defense of his position in this particular situation, isn’t a person innocent until proven guilty?”

The priest has escaped criminal prosecution due to statue of limitations.
There are many pederasts running around free for that same reason.

The Church found the accusations credible.
This is not just one accusation. There are multiple reports about this man.
He has been removed from the priesthood - that says alot right there.

Rudy is opening himself up to an incredible mess if this guy continues his abusive behavior while he is on Rudy’s payroll.

I cannot believe someone who is running for president can exercise such poor judgement here.


60 posted on 10/23/2007 11:24:24 AM PDT by Scotswife
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