Posted on 10/23/2007 7:48:38 AM PDT by pissant
WASHINGTON ---- He doesn't draw throngs like Barack Obama or Rudy Giuliani, but U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter has admirers in his longshot bid for the presidency.
The El Cajon lawmaker, who hasn't been able to move his campaign from the bottom tier of GOP candidates, met one of those fans in his Capitol Hill office recently.
"I really admire you and I'm glad you're running," Joe Sangiorgio, a George Washington University political science student and congressional intern, said while getting his picture taken with his choice for president. "I plan to vote for you, and I would give your campaign $50 million if I could."
Sangiorgio must not be paying much attention to the polls or standings in the race for campaign cash: Hunter is polling no more than 3 percent outside California and has raised a relative pauper's sum of less than $2 million.
Despite those numbers, the congressman told the North County Times earlier this month that he has no thoughts of dropping out.
Hunter also reflected on his record in Congress during the last 26 years, saying he is proud of his efforts on behalf of the military and defense industries, and that he believes large numbers of U.S. troops would leave Iraq next year.
Tough odds
Hunter's odds of getting elected president are pegged at 200-1 in Las Vegas, and his chances of raising anywhere near $50 million that Sangiorgio wished for, or suddenly winning favor among a large portion of the electorate, are seen by most observers as slim and none.
Despite that, the affable Hunter has nothing to lose by staying in the race, said Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College who specializes in national politics.
"There's really no reason for him to withdraw yet," Pitney said last week. "He gets to take part in national debates standing next to the party's eventual nominee. This could be his last chance for national television exposure, so why give it up?
"He's retiring from Congress, where his party is now in the minority, so staying in and taking part in the primaries is all gain and no pain."
The low numbers Hunter has been getting don't appear to bother the folksy politician, whose 52nd Congressional District includes parts of Poway and Ramona. The former chairman and now-ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee claimed he's had no thoughts of abandoning the effort and suggested surprise at even being asked the question.
"I'm not afraid of an election," he said. "To get out before the first numbers come in doesn't make any sense."
In debates, Hunter speaks forcefully about his desire to protect American jobs, and the needs to improve border security and maintain a strong military.
As the major candidates raise many millions to pay for media buys and dozens of political operatives, Hunter's Oct. 15 campaign finance report shows he has raised a paltry $1.7 million with only $132,741 in available cash. That compares with another bottom-tier candidate, U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback, who dropped out of the race Friday despite having raised more than twice as much as Hunter.
"We don't have a bunch of consultants that we have to pay," Hunter said as he munched on a turkey sandwich during a break in a series of votes taking place on the House floor. "We run a highly efficient operation."
'Great effect'
Rather than spend his campaign cash on media buys and staff, Hunter gets his message out through the "free media" at presidential debates and as a frequent guest on conservative radio and television. He travels to campaign events by commercial airliner, often relying on volunteers or a single paid staffer to shuttle him around once he's on the ground.
And despite only winning a couple of straw polls, the hawkish conservative will look you straight in the eye and say he is in to win.
"The real contest doesn't start until the January primaries, and I intend to do well in those elections," he said during a conversation in his congressional office, a large room adorned with numerous mementos and pictures of Hunter and his supporters during his time in office.
Hunter said he believes he has influenced the debate, pointing to his criticism of U.S. trade policy with China, which he says gives the Asian giant an unfair advantage over American manufacturers. He also claims to be the first to call for pre-emptive military action against Iran if it's shown that country is near production of an atomic weapon.
The leading GOP candidates have followed suit on Iran, building a fence along the majority of the border with Mexico and improving the trade and economic climate for U.S. manufacturers to preserve American jobs, he said.
"I think we're having a great effect. I'm out there every day trying to do the best I can to communicate my ideas and see if we can't draw a crowd."
But the crowds haven't responded in the way he had hoped. Nonetheless, he said plans to stay around after the first round of primaries and caucuses.
How long after that?
"If you get to the point where you're not getting any numbers at all and can't possibly recover, you don't stay in just for symbolic reasons," he said.
Congressional career
As he wraps up the penultimate year of his congressional career, Hunter said he will always be proud of his relationship with the military.
"The Armed Services Committee is one where you can really get things done," said the Vietnam War veteran, who was the panel's chairman until this year. "I was able to help rebuild the military during the Reagan era and work through the start of the missile defense system and the Contra wars."
In recent months, he has helped speed the development of new mine-resistant armored personnel carriers and increase funding and attention on efforts to defeat roadside bombs.
"We're in a new era of terrorists with technology and we've got to be able to respond. You take the best positions you can and try every day to do something good for this country.
"It's a long war, and there's not going to be any surrender ceremony like we saw on deck of the battleship USS Missouri at the end of World War II."
Despite some accusations of ties to men convicted or charged in the scandal of his friend and former U.S. Rep. Randy Cunningham, that relationship has not dogged Hunter on the campaign trail. Beyond a defense attorney's failed effort to subpoena him and other lawmakers, Hunter's name has not surfaced in any of the investigations linked to the now-imprisoned Cunningham.
When Hunter leaves Congress, his replacement could be his son, Duncan Duane Hunter, a U.S. Marine now serving in Afghanistan. The younger Hunter will face at least two other GOP challengers during the primary in his bid to keep a Hunter hold on the 52nd District and the family philosophy a part of California's congressional delegation.
Iraq and beyond
Somewhat surprisingly, Hunter is opposed to seeing the Marine Corps leave Iraq and assume major combat responsibility in Afghanistan, which Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway is advocating.
Hunter said he would rather see the 25,000 Marines come home from Iraq, as that country's fledgling army assumes responsibility for security with quick reaction forces called in if needed.
"Al-Qaida has been defeated on the battlefield in Anbar because of the hard work of the Marines," he said. "I would like to see the Marines rotate out of Iraq, and Afghanistan should be a place where our NATO allies really start participating in a more robust manner."
He predicted that the number of U.S. troops in Iraq next year will be far lower than the current 160,000. Putting greater pressure on the Iraqis to provide their own security could lead to substantial withdrawal of U.S. troops in the coming months, he said.
"The Iraq army can take over a lot faster than many people think," he said.
You'll eventually come to grips with that sooner or later.
This story says that he had two banks, the House Bank and the Bank of Coronado. I’d bet my right hand, that he would write himself checks from his House Bank checking account, which didn’t have any funds in it, to cover pending transactions at his Bank of Coronado account which had insufficient funds. That is the definition of check kiting or circular check kiting. He probably didn’t do it in time and that is why he is mentioned as having overdrafts at his Bank of Coronado. Rinse, repeat as desired.
Please do bet your right hand.
It’s Fred’s boy.
The phony conservatives are expending a lot of time and effort dissing a great conservative like Hunter.
***Yes, It feels like FR has been infiltrated, the CINOs are past the wire. I’ve been on a few threads where I’ve basically been saying that if Hunter really is just a 1%er, why waste time on him? I always thought Tommy Thompson was a was 1%er and there were even times when his numbers beat Hunter, but I never bothered to try to knock him down.
This shows 2 things: 1) the folks doing the knock-down are faux conservatives, and in better days on Free Republic, JimRob would have handed them their hats; and 2) that Hunter really is above 1% but the MSM is torquing the polls so that he doesn’t show up. This has happened in the past — nearly every pre-primary poll has been shown to be MSM biased to the point of being bogus.
What can we do about this? I’ve been pushing unconventional strategies from the very beginning, such as naming a VP candidate who could bring name recognition (like Rice, Coulter, Dobson). I brought in Sam as a Freeper, Pissant brought in Duncan Hunter. If this is the true state of conservatism today, I mourn for America as a nation.
I fear the only man who would do something about our bad trade treaty with China, and China’s threat to America is Duncan Hunter, the man they say cannot win the nomination.
When the election is over, just watch the China chatter quiet down, no matter which Party wins. Then China will be quietly calling all the shots in America.
As they appear to be doing now.
See #128
I’ve been watching the Hunter groups in both Myspace and Facebook and Hunter has been growing in both. At Facebook his numbers are rising despite the fact that they won’t list him as a presidential candidate.
Also interesting is the fact that the members of both those groups are primarily young voters who are sick of the status quo from both parties.
Ding, ding, ding, Calpernia is out of ideas. Come now, please continue to argue against the common sense that God should have bestowed upon you. I want to hear you try to convince me that the banking practices weren't all that bad. I want to hear you try and convince me that the system they had in 1992 was as moral, upright, and as pure as Mother Theresa's virtue. And if that system was so chock full of integrity and honesty and character, why then did they completely overhaul that system and do away with the practice of kiting checks???? I await your response with bated breath.
How in Odin’s Beard is a guy that isn’t even polling among Republican voters above 1% going to beat Hillary
***See my post just before yours.... if Hunter really is just a 1%er, why waste time on him? I always thought Tommy Thompson was a was 1%er and there were even times when his numbers beat Hunter, but I never bothered to try to knock him down.
This shows 2 things: 1) the folks doing the knock-down are faux conservatives, and in better days on Free Republic, JimRob would have handed them their hats; and 2) that Hunter really is above 1% but the MSM is torquing the polls so that he doesn’t show up. This has happened in the past — nearly every pre-primary poll has been shown to be MSM biased to the point of being bogus.
If not Hunter, then someone must step up to the plate, especially in our own hemisphere, where anti-American, Marxist regimes have made more progress than at the peak of the Cold War.
The only difference is that I can handle you having an opinion different from mine. You get bent out of shape.
Probably not your fault, being a Republican from NYC and all.
I just sent him a donation.
He is far and away the best candidate in the race.
Did you read his debate responses? Awesome.
He’s a real conservative, a real American, a real man.
Thanks for kicking in, that reminds me I need to send another Franklin.
ROFL
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