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Rudy steps right
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | salena zito

Posted on 10/21/2007 6:41:06 PM PDT by LonesomeHawk

Rudy steps right

By Salena Zito TRIBUNE-REVIEW Sunday, October 21, 2007

(WASHINGTON DC) Rudy Giuliani took a step last week to convince some of the more sensible folks who hold rock-ribbed conservative values to re-examine his candidacy:

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; democratparty; elections; electionspresident; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; gop; pennsylvania; pittsburgh; prolife; republicans; rickperry; rudy; texas; valuesvoters
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1 posted on 10/21/2007 6:41:09 PM PDT by LonesomeHawk
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To: LonesomeHawk

Okay, so he says he was swayed because Rudy says he’d appoint strict constructionist Supremes.

I’ve said this before, and here we go again:

1. Why do we trust the word of a philanderer?
2. What does he mean by “strict constructionist”?
3. Has Giuliani said that a “strict constructionist” reading of the Constitution would end abortion?
4. So... Giuliani would appoint judges who think he’s wrong, who disagree with him, who’d end something he has no moral qualms about?
5. So... are we supposed to think that Giuliani thinks Giuliani is wrong? Then why doesn’t he change his position?

This amounts to a wink-wink to me.


2 posted on 10/21/2007 6:45:13 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: LonesomeHawk
You were a bit severe on the excerpting. The point of the editorial would be clearer if you'd included: [Mayor Guiliani] won an endorsement from uber-conservative Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Perry's endorsement brings incredible conservative street cred to the Giuliani campaign nearly 90 days before the first primary vote is cast.
3 posted on 10/21/2007 6:45:14 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: BibChr
3. Has Giuliani said that a “strict constructionist” reading of the Constitution would end abortion?

I'm not pushing for Mayor Giuliani, but this question of yours leads me to ask: what if a candidate believes that a strict constructionist reading of the Constitution leaves the issue to the states??? Is supporting the Constitution not good enough?

4 posted on 10/21/2007 6:47:27 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Perry has not stepped up to stop illegals crossing our border, has tried to sell our highways to foreign companies, and tried to push unrequired vaccinations that would only benefit one company on our children. Conservative this guy isn’t.


5 posted on 10/21/2007 6:49:49 PM PDT by rstrahan
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To: Gondring

sorry, could not copy and paste anymore without bringing a dump load of ad’s that i quite frankly did not feel like deleting forever no severeness intended.


6 posted on 10/21/2007 6:49:53 PM PDT by LonesomeHawk (The few. The proud.)
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To: Gondring

I’ll counter your question with a question. Has G ever said that Rowe is bad law? My impression is the opposite.


7 posted on 10/21/2007 6:51:18 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Gondring

I don’t think that endorsements mean much to conservatives these days.We tend to make up our own minds about a candidates viability.And Rudy just ain’t...


8 posted on 10/21/2007 6:55:36 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: BibChr

The man wears dresses!

Who cares WHAT he says.


9 posted on 10/21/2007 6:56:55 PM PDT by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: Gondring

Texas Gov. Rick Perry is at best a moderate.
This shouldn’t be a surprise.
Perry has received campaign contributions from Cintra.
Cintra is financing the construction of the Trans Texas Corridor(NAFTA Super highway).
Cintra is represented by Giuliani’s law firm(Bracewell and Giuliani).

Rudy is an agent for a foreign company that gets foreign government money to buy part of Texas.


10 posted on 10/21/2007 6:57:40 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: Gondring

December 2, 2005; Posted: 3:16 p.m. EST (20:16 GMT)
(CNN) — Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito had a private meeting with the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Friday as he sought to reassure lawmakers that he would respect legal precedent on abortion rights and put his personal views aside.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/02/specter.alito/

Sept. 13, 2005
WASHINGTON — Supreme Court nominee John Roberts said Tuesday that the landmark 1973 ruling legalizing abortion was “settled as a precedent of the court” as he was immediately pressed to address the divisive issue on the second day of his confirmation hearings.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/9/13/103353.shtml


11 posted on 10/21/2007 6:59:50 PM PDT by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: BibChr
3. Has Giuliani said that a “strict constructionist” reading of the Constitution would end abortion?

Well the answer is No because strict constructionist judges wouldn't end abortion. They would give the ablilty to get an abortion back with the states, which is where it belongs, in the state houses. I suspect NY and NJ will keep it legal and the south will have stricter laws. Over turning Roe, does not end abortion and to suggest it means you are either not informed on the issue or being intentionally misleading. Roe can go and lets put the decision back with the states where it belongs in the first place.
12 posted on 10/21/2007 7:03:36 PM PDT by genxer
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To: Gondring
Toll road and the bought governor of Texas Perry!

Property protections were dashed with the veto of an eminent domain bill TxDOT didn’t like.
Another bill that would have required TxDOT to consider using existing highway routes for future TTC routes was struck down.
A bill that called on the Attorney General to study the impact of international agreements on Texas was ridiculed by the Commission and also vetoed by the Governor.

A few more vetoes smack of retaliation dealt to those who opposed the Governor’s view of the TTC, HPV, TYC or education during the session.

It is truly incredible to see a Governor who’s actions are completely disconnected from the people he is sworn to represent.
His actions are at odds with his own political party party platform and leadership, they are in conflict with overwhelming public opinion, they offend a wide variety of large organizations that previously supported his election, they fly in the face of the virtually unanimous will of the Legislature.
Who can help but wonder who Governor Perry represents and who’s interests is he protecting?

Now the stage is set for the Commission to demonstrate just how far they will go to protect their Spanish partner.
Despite incredible pressure North Texas has rejected the Governor’s pre-selected private business benefactor.
Will the Commission continue their now routine pattern of putting what Perry wants first and the people want last?
Sadly, we believe that our Governor serves the money brokers, not the people.
He has demonstrated that his loyalty is not with the people of Texas, but resides exclusively with those who can provide the kind of money that can further personal and political ambition.

13 posted on 10/21/2007 7:15:25 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: LonesomeHawk
Gov Rick Perry------an amnesty worshipper----endorsing Giuliani should be seen in this light:

Bracewell & Giuliani Firm Advises Cintra in First Privatization of Toll Road in Texas

DALLAS (March 1, 2007) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP (Texas-based law firm with global connections) advised Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company, in its successful bid to develop State Highway 121 into a toll road through Collin and Denton counties.

The award to Cintra, approved by the Texas Transportation Commission, is the first privatization of a Texas toll road. Bracewell is acting as project counsel to Cintra with respect to the 50-year concession from the Texas Department of Transportation. Cintra will pay a $2.1 billion upfront and annual lease payments totaling $700 million. "Cintra was awarded this project because of its proven expertise and competitive proposal," said Thomas O. Moore, partner with Bracewell & Giuliani. "This is the largest transportation deal of 2007. This is one of only five deals in the country." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1803916/posts

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Construction of Hway in Mexico


NASCO Map of Corridor

NASCO Members: United States: Texas Dept. of Transportation Iowa Department of Transportation State of Oklahoma Minnesota Dept. of Transportation Bell County, Texas Denton County, Texas Tarrant County, Texas Webb County, Texas Jackson County, Missouri City of Denton, Texas City of Ft. Worth, Texas City of Gainesville, Texas City of Kansas City, Missouri International Trade Institute of the Americas Free Trade Alliance San Antonio Port San Antonio United States - Mexico Chamber of Commerce Kansas City SmartPort The Ardmore Development Authority, City of Ardmore, Oklahoma Belton Economic Development Corporation The Des Moines Area Metropolitan Planning Organization The Allen Group Hillwood - Alliance Texas The Ambassador Bridge Detroit/Windsor Crossing American Airlines Blackwood, Langworthy & Tyson, an established Kansas City law firm Cadre Technologies Franco Eleuteri & Associates EWI Risk Services, Inc. GrowthNet Trading, LLC International Bank of Commerce Love's Travel Stops & Country Stores PROTECT-US, Inc. Scrub Oak Technologies Strasburger & Price Law Firm Trans Am Group Yellow Roadway Corporation Worldwide The NAFTA Superhighway

AND NASCO member Lockheed Martin (the only Pentagon defense contractor listed)

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TX governor rapped for paving way for construction of Trans-Texas Corridor
One News Now ^ | August 24, 2007 | Chad Groening
FR Posted on 08/25/2007 4:51:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texas Governor Rick Perry is being called to task by an author and investigative journalist for vetoing bills that would have blocked construction of the controversial Trans-Texas Corridor. Dr. Jerome Corsi has been one of the leading voices warning the American public about the consequences of the Trans-Texas Corridor, which will be part of a superhighway -- purported to be four football fields wide -- that will allow Mexican trucks to enter the U.S. and traverse the core of the country all the way to Canada.

The best-selling author asserts that Governor Perry cleared the way for construction to begin in his state when he vetoed several bills passed by the Legislature that would have stalled the project. "Governor Perry has been 100 percent gung-ho in building this road," says Corsi. "The Legislature voted a two-year moratorium, it voted a redefinition of eminent domain -- [and] Governor Perry vetoed them. [On] at least one of those measures, he waited until the Texas Legislature was out of session so it couldn't even override his veto." Corsi says it is unfortunate that there has been political pressure to get the project started.

"The Federal Highway Administration's lawyer wrote letters threatening the Texas Legislature to cut off federal highway funds if they got in the way of this Trans-Texas Corridor," he says. Corsi believes the same pressure will be applied on other states, like Oklahoma, to go along with the project. He suggests that would mean a loss of more American jobs and could pose a threat to U.S. sovereignty.

14 posted on 10/21/2007 7:22:42 PM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: genxer
Over turning Roe, does not end abortion and to suggest it means you are either not informed on the issue or being intentionally misleading.

The Schiavo/Schindler case was where the dishonesty of Randall Terry came out, showing that his true aim was not to return the issue to the states. I guess it was looking like the fight against Federal protection of abortion was going well, so he had to set back the fight to keep his nice gig going. :-(

15 posted on 10/21/2007 7:33:52 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Gov Rick Perry does a Dixie Chick---criticizes the US while in a foreign country. Is Perry collaborating with a foreign government to influence the policies of the US government on the issue of amnesty for illegals?

Gov Perry endorsed Giuliani's candidacy-----does candidate Giuliani agree with collaborating with foreign governments to change US policies?

We need rational leaders who understand the dimensions of the problem. Perry and Giuliani are not among this group.

In Mexico for trade talks, Perry blasts immigration policies
Houston Chronicle, Mexico City Bureau | Aug. 28, 2007 | DUDLEY ALTHAUS
Posted on 08/28/2007 5:35:20 PM PDT by Dubya

MEXICO CITY — Leading a large delegation of Texas executives trying to drum up business in Mexico, Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday criticized the U.S. Congress for failing to pass an immigration bill that would legalize millions of workers. "I don't think this is that difficult an issue if Congress would have the maturity to sit down and really discuss it and cut out all the mean rhetoric," Perry said during a break in the third day of meetings with Mexican officials and business executives. (Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...

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Samuel P. Huntington of Harvard, author of the internationally acclaimed "The Clash of Civilizations," wrote "Mexican immigration is a unique, disturbing and looming challenge to our cultural integrity, our national identity, and potentially to our future as a country. The persistent inflow of Hispanic immigrants threatens to divide the United States into two peoples, two cultures, and two languages."

"Unlike past immigrant groups, Mexicans and other Latinos have not assimilated into mainstream U.S. culture, forming instead their own political and linguistic enclaves—from Los Angeles to Miami—and rejecting the Anglo-Protestant values that built the American dream. The United States ignores this challenge at its peril."

16 posted on 10/21/2007 7:37:55 PM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: BibChr

Once nominated, he will run to center. Once elected, he will govern from the left.


17 posted on 10/21/2007 7:39:41 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

But... to run to the center, wouldn’t he have to go right from where he is?


18 posted on 10/21/2007 7:42:07 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Gondring
Perry's endorsement brings incredible conservative street cred to the Giuliani campaign nearly 90 days before the first primary vote is cast.


19 posted on 10/21/2007 7:43:55 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: Petronski

I particularly like the “incredible” combined with “street cred”... Intentional irony or cluelessness?


20 posted on 10/21/2007 7:47:26 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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