Posted on 10/21/2007 10:09:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
I, a conservative Christian, am partly responsible for passing one of the most pro-gay agendas in American history.
Starting January 1, 2008, California will implement SB-777, a bill that goes far beyond the old standard of public schools not being able to do anything that would “reflect adversely” on homosexuality. Now, the new standard is you can’t do anything that would show either a “discriminatory bias” against homosexuality or anything that would favor heterosexuality.
Let me put this in simple terms.
Textbooks that now refer to “mother and father” or “mom and dad” or “King and Queen” will soon have to also include—with equal emphasis—“mom and mom,” “dad and dad” and “king and king.” There shall be no preference of any kind shown to heterosexuality. Kids, K-12, will learn that every form of family is just as “normal” as every other form. The textbooks that comply will no longer elevate as the ideal that children have both a loving mom and a loving dad, all they’ll need is “a nurturing caregiver”—or maybe a village. They’ll be taught “male” and “female” are mere social constructs that have nothing to do with sexuality or “plumbing.” Increasingly, children will be encouraged to explore their own “gender,” which means they’ll be encouraged to experiment with all forms of sexuality since nothing is “abnormal.” We’ll throw them condoms, pass out Plan B in the health center, and even put 6th grade middle school girls on the pill to ensure that we make sex “safe.” And when some get pregnant, and others get the inevitable diseases, we’ll just take them for an abortion or for treatments under HillaryCare—all during school hours, and all without their parents having a clue.
All this will happen because I—like millions of other conservative Christians in California—voted for Arnold. I voted for the Republican Arnold in order to avoid the Democrat Bustamante—but ended up getting quite of bit of Bustamante anyway. I’m not mad at Arnold, really. He told us who he was and what he believed in, and we were just glad we could vote for a candidate that had a real shot at “winning,” who could “stop Bustamante.”
Sound familiar? Now we’re told again that we have to vote for a candidate that can “win,” because we have to “stop Hillary.”
Consider this.
How many people do you know who still proudly call themselves “Republicans?” I know of increasingly few. There was a time when I was so proud of being part of the GOP. That was before all the scandals, the earmarks and the spending of “Compassionate Conservatism,” before the massive Prescription Drug Benefit and McCain-Feingold, the failure of Social Security reform, the poor communication that still continues regarding the War on Terror, the amnesty of Comprehensive Immigration Reform and the Harriet Miers Moment. I could go on.
It’s like we’ve been watching “How to Destroy a Great Party in Two Administrations.”
And now we have Arnold the Republican signing the most pro-gay agenda in our state’s history and Rudy the Republican who’s supporting abortion on demand, civil unions and gun control.
It’s déjà vu all over again: Beware of an Arnold dressed as a Rudy.
I may no longer be an enthusiastic Republican, but I am a proud conservative who’s angry at the political party that has moved away from me. I haven’t changed these past several years, they have.
In 2008, for a Republican to win, he must have the enthusiastic support of conservative Christians who will raise money, walk precincts, and get out the vote. But the reasons most Christians support the Republican Party are primarily moral, not economic nor even out of national security concerns. If Republicans lose their opposition to abortion and gay marriage they’ll lose much of the Christian vote. Sure, some will vote for the “lesser of two evils,” but it won’t be enough to win the election.
I just don’t see how Rudy can beat Hillary without a big Christian turnout—and he won’t get it.
In the end, if Republicans are foolish enough to nominate Rudy, I doubt many conservative Christians will make the mistake we did in California.
When I look at Rudy, all I see is Arnold.
The Frank Pastore Show is heard in Los Angeles weekday afternoons on 99.5 KKLA and on the web at kkla.com, and is the winner of the 2006 National Religious Broadcasters Talk Show of the Year. Frank is a former major league pitcher with graduate degrees in both philosophy of religion and political philosophy.
I've no interest in defending Guiliani. He doesn't fall on the correct side of the issues enough for my support. But, were I to encounter someone who did support him, I think I'd stand a better chance of changing that person's mind to a more conservative candidate, such as Hunter or Thompson, than would someone who just spewed ridicule. You don't build support by driving out dissenters; you build it by changing their hearts to your side.
What you don't seem to be getting is that I am not criticizing your position; I am criticizing your methods of promoting it. If a main purpose of FR is to "champion causes which further conservatism in America", and one of those causes is to reduce Rudy's support in the Real World, I think that is better done by convincing the Rudy boosters they are wrong with solid argument, rather than chasing them away with insults.
BS from a nobody.
Thanks! As you know, Nobody's perfect.
Free Republic advances conservatism, promotes conservative candidates and defends the Constitution. We FReepers are like minded in our politics. We have no desire to debate the pros and cons of liberalism. We oppose all aspects of liberalism. Nuff said.
As for my tactics. After a year plus of posting the factual truth about Giuliani, its time for some serious rhetorical ridicule. FReepers don't care about RudyBoosters. Just ask JimRob. FReepers aren't concerned with what RudyBoosters maybe thinking. In fact, for the most part, FReepers don't really care what Romney or McCain supporters are thinking either. Aside from FRed, the other three top tier candidates aren't taken seriously by most FReepers.
You need to get with the program. I've learned after many years. You'll never change the mind of a liberal. Period.
I am sorry you have given up on trying to convert others to conservative thought. Trying to convince anyone is mostly an exercise in futility, as you say, but it is so worth it when it happens.
As for my tactics. After a year plus of posting the factual truth about Giuliani, its time for some serious rhetorical ridicule. FReepers don't care about RudyBoosters. Just ask JimRob. FReepers aren't concerned with what RudyBoosters maybe thinking. In fact, for the most part, FReepers don't really care what Romney or McCain supporters are thinking either. Aside from FRed, the other three top tier candidates aren't taken seriously by most FReepers.
Well, they damn well should be. They might be leading this nation in Jan '09. If that thought bothers you, consider that your tactics are doing very little to change it; you only harden the opposition.
You're free to be a loner..... malcontent, misfit or militant. The choice is yours.
Conservatives by our nature, are free thinkers. Conservative politics around this forum is limited to individuals supporting the conservative agenda, and those issues, policies and themes which advance conservatism. FReepers consider liberals to be the enemy.
If you enjoy dealing with liberals, have at it. I have more important things to be concerned about. And if my tactics upset the liberal opposition, or their enablers, I call that success.
They don’t dare.
Well you oughta be because she's been in the trenches here exposing Rudy's agenda. She's actually posted links and sources rather than just merely stating that she hates Rudy like you have.
Took you 24 hours to post that BS!
I posted plenty of facts exposing Rooty`s liberalism going back to August 2006! Remember this early thread: Conservative Case Against Rudy Giuliani
I was in the trenches long before you or calcowgirl showed up. In fact, I can remember you started out supporting Giuliani. LOL Then you came to your senses. Now your angry at the world, because Jim put the kibosh on your support for Ron Paul. Thats not my fault.
You've got some nerve. You owe me an apology for that stupid post.
To: Reagan Man
Great post. Wish the Rudybots would find someone else to worship.
38 posted on 08/30/2006 10:39:54 AM MDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
Some people work you know. I don't have the luxury of posting 24/7 here like you FR crack fiends.
Now your angry at the world, because Jim put the kibosh on your support for Ron Paul. Thats not my fault.
I'm mad because you've developed a real catty attitude lately against FReepers who don't kiss the platinum ring of Fred, ripping on long-time FReepers and crap.
What BS! I looked up your posts for the last 24 hours. You made other posts, but you just got around to mine. Right! LOL
>>>>>I'm mad because you've developed a real catty attitude lately against FReepers who don't kiss the platinum ring of Fred, ripping on long-time FReepers and crap.
More BS! For starters, your precious calcowgirl attacked me first. Then she apologized. So what long time FReepers am I ripping? Ever since Fred made his campaign official, lotsa folks have felt compelled to attack him. Mostly with cheap pot shots. I've no intention of sitting back and watch folks engage in endless gutter trashtalk.
Things are going to get even more heated around here. If you can't take the heat, leave.
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