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Live Updating Thread: 2007 Southern California Firestorms
LA Times ^ | 9:35 AM PDT, October 21, 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/21/2007 9:48:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

UPDATE: The city of Malibu is advising residents in Puerco Canyon to begin evacuating due to a wildfire driven by powerful winds. This area is north of Pacific Coast Highway and about 1 mile west of Pepperdine University. Residents along the beach on Malibu Road may soon be evacuated. Pacific Coast Highway is closed between Kanan-Dume Road and Topanga Canyon. Residents are advised to head to the west. Evacuation centers are being set up in the Zuma Beach area.

A wildfire driven by powerful winds in the Malibu Hills this morning threatened a university, destroyed at least one home and forced the evacuation of hundreds more, authorities said.

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KEYWORDS: 0interestloans; albabysfault; arson; breathofsatan; firestorm; heros; ididitfatnotlazy; jamul; julian; lakearrowheadfire; malibu; orangecofires; prayforrain; ramona; sandiegofire; santaanawinds; wildfire; wildfires
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To: Brad's Gramma; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Typical for me,,,,,,lol

Hey, where’s CM?

Is that FEMA knocking at your door....:)

??


2,781 posted on 10/23/2007 6:28:55 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=gmail&q=Arrowbear,++CA&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Play w/the zoom feature...


2,782 posted on 10/23/2007 6:29:43 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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To: cookcounty

I rember something about Missions in Cali.

Elementary school was 40yrs ago.

I grew up in the Bay Area, east bay.

I have learned more here at FR then my school years growing up. To busy day dreaming or clowning around to learn.

For some reason I had it in my mind that the Missions were Catholic Churches...go figure.


2,783 posted on 10/23/2007 6:29:54 PM PDT by Global2010 ( The Lord will guide you but you have to move your feet.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Don’t know but they had BETTER be bringing dinner!!!


2,784 posted on 10/23/2007 6:30:10 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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To: Global2010

Rattlesnake Mountain used to be a really pretty place. However, developers bought it and now are building homes all over it. I don’t know where the snakes went but the coyotes relocated over to our side of the canyon. Our cats no longer leave the yard and there’s more than one coyote that’s got a bb in it’s butt for coming in the yard!


2,785 posted on 10/23/2007 6:32:12 PM PDT by KylaStarr (..keeping watch in east county SD)
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To: A CA Guy

What happens to a mortgage on a home if it is destroyed in a fire?
Does the mortgage just go away?
How exactly does that work?


2,786 posted on 10/23/2007 6:32:30 PM PDT by Global2010 ( The Lord will guide you but you have to move your feet.)
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To: BurbankKarl

ANOTHER ONE!!!

w00t.... I hope they nail every last one of them... plaster their pix every where .... !!!!!


2,787 posted on 10/23/2007 6:33:29 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: sodpoodle

I’m jaw-dropped listening to the national reporters now “on the scene”...the vultures have come. Whether it was CNN or MSNBC they asked the most leading questions of people at QualComm. One of them all but demanded the “victims” complain and blame. It was hilarious because it didn’t work!! People who evacuated there kept saying everyone was wonderful- they had food and everything they needed for themselves, their kids and pets.

God I hate the media.

I think they are REALLY disappointed you’re not all having Katrina fits.


2,788 posted on 10/23/2007 6:34:12 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

The governator mentioned global warming in one of his speeches...they must be drinking the same kool-aid.


2,789 posted on 10/23/2007 6:34:20 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: BurbankKarl; Borax Queen; yorkie; Quix
LASD Santa Clarita has one arson suspect in custody.

Awesome. I say: hangin' em's too good.

2,790 posted on 10/23/2007 6:35:02 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Global2010

>>What happens to a mortgage on a home if it is destroyed in a fire? <<

You pray that your homeowners insurance covers the loss.


2,791 posted on 10/23/2007 6:35:25 PM PDT by KylaStarr (..keeping watch in east county SD)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks!


2,792 posted on 10/23/2007 6:35:26 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: La Enchiladita

thanks for the reminder, I was so concerned with other things I totally forgot my own health!


2,793 posted on 10/23/2007 6:35:29 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Five dead in California fires and mass evacuation (3 elderly evacuees in San Diego area)
Dana Ford - Reuters

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071024/ts_nm/california_wildfire1_dc;_ylt=Aqp8hNELsb3CTBaffvr3xTms0NUE

SAN DIEGO (Reuters) - Towering wildfires burned out of control across Southern California for a third day on Tuesday as 500,000 people fled the San Diego area, and firefighters made a desperate stand to save a mountain town ringed by flames.

More than a dozen fires blazed from the horse country north of Los Angeles to the Mexican border 150 miles to the south, torching 1,500 houses and other buildings, blotting out the sun with smoke and raining ash on the streets.

Most of the destroyed homes were in the San Diego area, where three major wildfires burned unchecked and half a million people were ordered to leave in what may be the largest U.S. evacuation since Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast in 2005.

At least five deaths were reported, three of them elderly evacuees from the San Diego area, and more than three dozen others had been injured, including 18 firefighters.

As the firestorms raged into the evening, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger asked President George W. Bush to upgrade California’s wildfires to a “major disaster,” which would trigger federal help.

Bush already issued a declaration of emergency early Tuesday. But Schwarzenegger told him in a new letter that “this disaster is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capability of the state and local governments.”

Schwarzenegger said 68,000 homes, from cabins to luxury villas, were threatened statewide and 6,000 men and women were working the fire lines. More than 300,000 acres (120,000 hectares) have been blackened and the state government put economic losses in the hundreds of millions.

“We have had three things come together — very dry areas, very hot weather and a lot of wind. This makes the perfect storm for fire,” Schwarzenegger said at Lake Arrowhead, where blazes threatened two nearby mountain communities.

San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders put the number of evacuees at half a million.

Bush planned to visit the fire-stricken area on Thursday.

TOWN SURROUNDED BY FIRE

Running Springs, a town of about 5,000 people nestled in the San Bernardino Mountains, was surrounded by fire by Tuesday afternoon as crews made a furious effort to save homes.

Firefighters in the Mexican border city of Tecate tried to control fires that sent up black smoke and covered houses and cars with gray ash. Fires also burned on the outskirts of the Mexican city of Tijuana, 20 miles from San Diego.

California power authorities issued a transmission emergency because downed power lines had left San Diego with only 60 percent of its usual supply of electricity.

The hot Santa Ana winds, which have fanned the flames as they blow in to Southern California from the desert, continued to gust up to 65 mph (105 kph) and high wind warnings remained in effect for most of the region until Wednesday afternoon.

Officials were hoping that easing winds and an accompanying rise in humidity would help them gain the upper hand against the wildfires.

San Diego officials said people were evacuating quickly. In the region’s last major fire in 2003, 15 people died and 5,000 buildings were destroyed. But Erica Schmidt said friends in San Diego county ignored evacuation orders to safeguard their own homes.

“It bothers me to know my friends are still up there because they can’t get out,” Schmidt said.

Some 8,000 people, including senior citizens from nursing homes, went to the Qualcomm stadium, where the San Diego Chargers football team plays, or to the Del Mar Fairgrounds, famed for its horse racing track. Thousands of horses and family pets were also accommodated.

People taking shelter at Qualcomm called it well organized and clean, in contrast to the chaos at New Orleans’ Superdome, which was used as a refuge after 2005’s Hurricane Katrina.

On Tuesday afternoon, some San Diego evacuees were allowed to return to their communities.

(Additional reporting by Dan Whitcomb and Jill Serjeant in Los Angeles and Marty Graham in San Diego)


2,794 posted on 10/23/2007 6:35:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: dragnet2

Those reporters are agitators - they push buttons to stir up controversy for a *grabber* headline.

There was so much media *blame* babble during Katrina - reporters just hung around the evacuees boosting their sense of *abandonment*.

Malibu not so much. Perhaps because when you have 1 Mercedes, 2 Porsches and a Hummer - you don’t have to wait for a bus that never comes.


2,795 posted on 10/23/2007 6:35:59 PM PDT by sodpoodle (When you can't handle the truth...............try satire.)
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To: La Enchiladita

It’s ok I was not very attentive in school down in Cali except for health and biology but that came naturally. : )

What vague memory of the mission studies they were historical landmarks and crumbling.

Visiting missions never got done on my things to list when I lived down there.


2,796 posted on 10/23/2007 6:36:15 PM PDT by Global2010 ( The Lord will guide you but you have to move your feet.)
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To: SE Mom

The MUTE button is your friend....:)


2,797 posted on 10/23/2007 6:36:42 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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anybody see a face in the flames?
BOO!

Firefighters work to put out a fire in the vineyard of the garden of a luxury home in Lake Hodges, near San Diego, California October 23, 2007. Wildfires stoked by fierce winds burned unchecked across Southern California for a third day on Tuesday with 300,000 people in San Diego alone evacuated as flames destroyed or threatened homes from humble forest cabins to luxury villas. (Lucy Nicholson/Reuters)


2,798 posted on 10/23/2007 6:37:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: SE Mom

see mypost #2795 - BINGO - thinking the same thoughts - must be ESP End Sick Propaganda!!!!


2,799 posted on 10/23/2007 6:37:52 PM PDT by sodpoodle (When you can't handle the truth...............try satire.)
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To: Drago
Rancho Bernardo has been around for at least 30 years if not 40! It is NOT a brand new town!
2,800 posted on 10/23/2007 6:38:02 PM PDT by It's me
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