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Romney Wins Conservative Straw Poll
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| 10/20/07
| Karen Travers
Posted on 10/20/2007 1:41:59 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: JMack
Why is it no pro-abortion group ever supported Romney?
Why is it the founder of the Pro-Life movement is in Romney's camp?
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:02:24 PM PDT
by
elizabetty
("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
To: Spiff
It doesnt really matter if Romney or Huckabee one. The REAL story out of this poll is that Thompson lost.
Not only did he lose, he got LESS THAN 10% of the vote. Did he forget to wear his "Conservative Messiah" Lapel pin?
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:04:18 PM PDT
by
elizabetty
("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
To: Spiff
No, the story is that among actual conference votes, a so-called second-tier candidate absolutely trounced all three guys who are ahead in the polls — including my candidate and your candidate. Romney (and Paul) undoubtedly achieved some damage control with online votes, but it’s still a rout for everyone but Huck.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:05:13 PM PDT
by
ellery
(I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
Comment #64 Removed by Moderator
To: George W. Bush; billbears; KDD; jmeagan; traviskicks
When Ron Paul Loses Straw Polls:
"Ha! Ron Paul's a kook who couldn't get elected dog catcher! He's low in the polls, no chance of winning!"
When Ron Paul Wins Straw Polls
"George Soros is paying the Paulites to spam these polls, plus Code Pink is recruiting new members too! These straw polls don't mean nothing anyway."
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:11:07 PM PDT
by
Extremely Extreme Extremist
("Just 3 hours a day with Rudy Guiliani is all I ask" -- Sean Hannity is on!)
To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin, LOL. No wailing, I'm just laughing at the gross hypocrisy here of FReepers.
Mitt Romney isn't a social conservative, so it's moot anyway.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:13:03 PM PDT
by
Extremely Extreme Extremist
("Just 3 hours a day with Rudy Guiliani is all I ask" -- Sean Hannity is on!)
To: JohnBovenmyer
Third, there is nothing here that the Fred Heads can use for bragging points over their competition for the title of either "the social conservative" candidate or even "the southern social conservative" candidate. What makes you think these people are all conservative? First, these people are obviously pretentious. They are the only voters with values? Sure. Second, many of these people are theocrats not conservatives. Although some of the theocrat's positions are shared with conservatives like pro-life and pro-marriage, many are not. Many theocrats are basically socialist as long as the government is spending the money on things that support their religious values. Many theocrats' religious views cause them to support things like open borders and citizenship for illegal aliens. Many theocrats are nanny staters as long as the state is forcing people to abide by their "values".
This particular orginization obviously supports Huckabee. Good for Mike. However, supporting a big government, big spending, open borders Republican does not make them conservative.
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:18:56 PM PDT
by
ellery
(I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
To: finnman69
Wait, you mean the ones who are suposedly about to bolt third party are easily duped? Tell me again why this group is so important?
I will just as soon as you show me proof that the on-line voters were anything other than made up paid voters. Are you have proof that they were members of any group.
69
posted on
10/20/2007 8:19:08 PM PDT
by
org.whodat
(What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
To: JMack
All the money Romney has spent and effort he has made in Iowa alone, and all he got onsite was 99 votes to Fred's 77 which Fred spent almost nothing on and barely even campaigned for, since he just got in and has spent most of the past two weeks attending fundraisers to build cash. This makes Romney look like he's a version of Duncan Hunter with a lot more cash to burn, but still no traction. That he got spanked so badly by Huckabee though is the real story. If this plays out in the primary, and Huckabee takes Iowa, and then Guiliani takes NH, Romney will be finished fast. Wouldn't surprise me with his flip flops. I'm not sure what will happen with Fred. This could be a sign of problems, or a brilliant strategy. We'll find out on primary day. Let him get his cash to where he wants it, and begin a push in ernest, and I think he will ultimately be the one, though Huckabee is surprising so far, and to be watched, if this can be believed. I agree with everything you said 90% (minus your Thompson observations). I dont think its strategy by Thompson to have done poorly in this event, he just has not performed well. He does not have the luxury of time to be saving his cash or efforts. This primary season is going to be all but over in 3 months. It takes months to build up the kind of ground game and local organization you need to do well in these primaries. You cannot possibly expect to jump in at the last second and make it happen.
BTW, i'm playing the fantasy '08 markets at real clear politics and just made a big bet on Huckabee doing well in Iowa.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:19:46 PM PDT
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
To: org.whodat
I totally discount the online voting fomr this event. That Ron Paul came in third is all you need to know.
But in the live onsite voting Huckabee won.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:21:08 PM PDT
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
To: elizabetty
Why is it the founder of the Pro-Life movement is in Romney's camp? I hear a clinking sound, you know like thirty pieces of silver.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:22:44 PM PDT
by
org.whodat
(What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
To: elizabetty
Not only did he lose, he got LESS THAN 10% of the vote. Did he forget to wear his "Conservative Messiah" Lapel pin? He should have worn a Reagan mask or played the LAW & ORDER music.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:23:23 PM PDT
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
To: freespirited
Mitt Romney won the Family Research Council Values Voters' Summit straw poll in Washington Saturday, barely beating out Mike Huckabee with just 30 more votes.HUGE LOSS for Willard.
LOL
Thirty votes?
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:23:44 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
To: Spiff
The is great, as long as he is not faking it, right Spiff?
I am glad after fake websites, fake cop badges and of course his faking being pro life to garner votes from the baby killers, he has decided to be upfront as you say...
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/08/09/romneys_honesty_problem/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/10/AR2007091002227.html
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/6144-romney-s-fake-cop-discussed
Politicians always listen for the beat of the constituency they seek to represent, and waltz to it as best they can. They routinely tap dance around tough issues. They cha-cha-cha, reversing course when necessary. But they don't all do what Romney did on abortion rights. He engaged in a full-body tango with Massachusetts voters, doing everything he could to convince them he was pro-choice. He used his mother and another dead relative as props in a cold political calculation. But, this "pro-life Mormon," to quote Murphy, was "faking it" big time.
That's more than a mistake. That's dishonest.
Romney could very well win the GOP nomination. If he does, establishing credentials as a truth-teller will be harder than establishing credentials as an abortion-rights opponent.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:24:00 PM PDT
by
ejonesie22
(265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
To: finnman69
But in the live onsite voting Huckabee won. Yes, I know, with that massive voter turn out he's on fire, some what like a wet bottle rocket.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:25:39 PM PDT
by
org.whodat
(What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
To: redgirlinabluestate
Couldn’t agree more. Additionally Huckabee is another nice guy who can’t win in the general. Michael Medved, has been pushing Huckabee, in order to split the conservative vote to insure a Guiliani victory.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:26:29 PM PDT
by
TAdams8591
((Mitt Romney '08 ))
To: finnman69
I dont think its strategy by Thompson to have done poorly in this event...I disagree that Thompson is doing poorly overall, but I also don't think this particular third- or fourth-place finish (depending on how you count) was strategy either. What remains to be seen is how well the attendees of this event mirror evangelical voters, and overall primary voters. At this point, the information is all over the place.
I will say that if Huck takes root and actually wins one of the early primaries, that would seem to be very good news for the Giuliani camp.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:26:49 PM PDT
by
ellery
(I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
To: finnman69
I think you should blow a wad against Thompson. Should play big.
If you’re right that is.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:27:07 PM PDT
by
ejonesie22
(265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
To: TAdams8591
I should have said to “further” split the conservative vote.
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posted on
10/20/2007 8:28:49 PM PDT
by
TAdams8591
((Mitt Romney '08 ))
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