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China halts rail freight to N Korea (NK took 1800 Chinese wagons; OMG, THIS CAN'T BE REAL)
FT ^ | 10/18/07 | Anna Fifield in Seoul and Richard McGregor in Beijing

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:21:48 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

China halts rail freight to N Korea

By Anna Fifield in Seoul and Richard McGregor in Beijing

Published: October 18 2007 23:06 | Last updated: October 18 2007 23:06

China suspended key rail freight services into North Korea last week after 1,800 wagons carrying food aid and tradeable goods crossed into Kim Jong-il’s hermit state but were never returned.

Absconding with Chinese wagons would be a strange move for North Korea because Beijing is Pyongyang’s closest political ally and biggest provider of food, goods and oil. Analysts monitoring North Korea said Chinese officials had privately complained to them that the North Koreans were dismantling Chinese wagons and selling them back as scrap metal.

The Chinese railway ministry suspended a number of rail freight services into North Korea on October 11, humanitarian agencies operating in North Korea told the Financial Times. The ministry told international aid agencies that it would not send any more wagons into North Korea until Pyongyang returned the 1,800 Chinese wagons.

Tony Banbury, Asia director for the UN World Food Programme, said that the curtailed service had held up the delivery of 8,000 tonnes of maize and wheat already stockpiled in Dandong, a Chinese border town. “We now have significant amounts of food but we can’t deliver it,” Mr Banbury said.

Reliefweb, a United Nations website for aid agencies, reported that the delivery of food stocks into North Korea had been “critically affected by the cessation of movement of railway wagons from China”.

An official with China’s railway ministry said yesterday that it was not aware of any suspension of freight services into North Korea.

But Fu Xue, of the Dandong Tianda International Freight and Forwarding Company, said there had been delays in the return of wagons but that North Korea had asked for permission from China.

North Korea has frequently failed to pay for goods or to pay back debt. It has also long been accused of relying on currency counterfeiting and drug smuggling to stay afloat.

But purloining Chinese wagons would be a brazen move. China is already thought to be disillusioned by Pyongyang’s refusal to embrace economic reform. It was also angered by North Korea’s decision last year to conduct a nuclear test despite Beijing’s objections.

North Korea has a history of not returning vehicles. In 1998, the late Chung Ju-yung, founder of South Korea’s Hyundai Group, donated 1,001 cows to North Korea to make amends for stealing a cow as he escaped from the north as a boy.

Pyongyang said the cows should be transported on Hyundai trucks. The trucks were never seen again.

Copyright The Financial Times Limited


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; foodaid; gloriesofcommunism; korea; northkorea; tlr; wagons
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North Koreans were dismantling Chinese wagons and selling them back as scrap metal.

This is the new low even for N. Korea. The place may be getting out of control.

curtailed service had held up the delivery of 8,000 tonnes of maize and wheat already stockpiled in Dandong, a Chinese border town.

Well, on the bright side, even if you promise food aid to N. Koreans in return for no good behavior, it won't be delivered due to the problem of their own creation.

1 posted on 10/19/2007 1:21:52 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/19/2007 1:23:00 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They say never bite the hand that feeds...

But stealing the plate it’s served on then sell in back? LOL, what brass ones!


3 posted on 10/19/2007 1:26:26 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: endthematrix
We hear stories that drug problems are getting rampant in N. Korea, since the state cannot sell drug overseas at ease due to stepped-up foreign vigilance on their drug-smuggling. Maybe some party hacks in NK are all drugged up and turned into a bunch of wackos.:-)

I really want to find out how something like this occurs. Something is really wrong, but I would like to know it is a local phenomenon or done with the blessing or acquiescence of top leadership.

4 posted on 10/19/2007 1:33:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: endthematrix

The only solution: next time they’re desperate for relief aid in Nth. Korea, the Chinese should tell ‘em to come and get it. Or ask for a deposit on the trucks or railway stock, whatever is being used.

No good deed shall go unpunished. (Murphy) Letting someone get away with conduct like that only emboldens him for all the occasions that (may) follow.


5 posted on 10/19/2007 1:36:38 AM PDT by Bazooka (When Tolerance met Indifference, it was love at first sight.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This is either;

1. An old article or;

2. The second time it’s happened in the last year.

6 posted on 10/19/2007 1:39:05 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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This is the first time China did anything about it, by suspending freight service into N. Korea.

This may have been going on since the last report, but the first report did not say N. Koreans are dismantling the wagons and sell them as scrap metals to Chinese.

Either this has been going on, but Chinese went public about it now, or it could be a new development.

7 posted on 10/19/2007 1:44:11 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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I found the earlier one from July 5, 2006

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20060705.aspx

If your article is a new one then the Chinese are more stupid than the Clintons.

8 posted on 10/19/2007 1:44:56 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Check FR search. I haven’t, but I remember there have been lots of reports of NK not returning engines and cars over the last five years.


9 posted on 10/19/2007 1:48:08 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("Of course, a fool, what with sheer fright and fine sentiments, is always safe.")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult; VanShuyten
Actually, I posted the first report about this event at FR:

N. Korea Holds onto Chinese Trains Bringing Aids(NK brazenly rips off China) ^

10 posted on 10/19/2007 1:51:37 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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I have read several stories such as this. Apparently North Korea considers the trains carrying the "aide" goods part of the aide provided, and confiscate the trains along with the goods. The Chinese have been screaming over this for a while.

One wonders what NK can do with the trains? There's not much food to carry beyond the items crossing the border...

11 posted on 10/19/2007 2:14:01 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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12 posted on 10/19/2007 2:19:10 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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1,800 wagons carrying food aid and tradeable goods crossed into Kim Jong-il’s hermit state but were never returned.

"Red" Wagons? Shoot, China probably cranks out 1,800 of them in 20 minutes!


13 posted on 10/19/2007 2:50:35 AM PDT by OCC
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Chinese officials had privately complained to them that the North Koreans were dismantling Chinese wagons and selling them back as scrap metal ... The ministry told international aid agencies that it would not send any more wagons into North Korea until Pyongyang returned the 1,800 Chinese wagons.

Kim Jong: "But we already returned them, piece by piece.

14 posted on 10/19/2007 3:39:03 AM PDT by Go Gordon (The short fortune teller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This story sounds familar, I think the NorKo’s did this before. And if they’ve dismantled the railcars, how are they going to be able to return them?


15 posted on 10/19/2007 4:00:34 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
NK pulled this same stunt last year.

I remember a thread about it.

16 posted on 10/19/2007 4:02:47 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is NOT an unexpected move on part of the Chinese.

DPRK is a creation of Mao, and the Chinese are loathe to keep it going (even tho Mao has enjoyed a resurgence in popularity these days).

However, they don’t want chaos on their border — it would be bad for business. They are the ones who have forced DPRK to abandon nuclear weapons, etc.

DPRK is like the screwup teenage son to China, the son we all pray our son doesn’t become or ever hand around with.


17 posted on 10/19/2007 4:15:28 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"blessing or acquiescence of top leadership"

I will go with this one.

18 posted on 10/19/2007 4:22:37 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Arr youll ragons are berong to us!

/chiapet mode off


19 posted on 10/19/2007 4:35:21 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: TigerLikesRooster

He’s ronery


20 posted on 10/19/2007 6:02:03 AM PDT by wastedyears (I don't wanna grow up, help : /)
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