Posted on 10/18/2007 9:41:25 AM PDT by Pyro7480
The Boy Scouts of America's refusal to bend its rules to permit gay scouts will cost the organization's local chapter $200,000 a year if it wishes to keep its headquarters in a city-owned building on Logan Square.
Representatives of the Boy Scouts of America's Cradle of Liberty Council were notified that to remain in their 79-year-old landmark headquarters, they needed to pay the city a "fair market" rent, Fairmount Park Commission president Robert N.C. Nix said yesterday. Currently, the rent is $1 a year....
(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...
Thanks for the reminder, I'll be sending them an early Christmas present this year! Thank God for organizations like the Boy Scouts. They helped to keep me out of a lot of trouble (not all, but a lot!) when I was growing up and gave me a sense of self that I could survive in any situation. Organizations like the Boy Scouts are what the inner cities need to give the young people a moral compass and direction.
Rent control boards only control residential rents. It would not apply here.
Finally? After 200+ posts on this thread?
What did you think of the article?
SO who will be the person determining what organizations deserve such a deal?
Most of the big cities in the US are very liberal and thus can give free rent to Planned Parenthood or some Gay Rights group.
Where does it stop?
No it isn't. It's a rental contract. In fact all cities use that contract to avoid just that argument you are trying to make.
This can be read different ways:
Boy Scouts are penalized $199,000 per year for not permitting gay scouts.
Boy Scouts would be rewarded $199,000 per year for permitting gay scouts.
Boy Scouts are bribed $199,000 per year to permit gay scouts.
“Yes, but should any organization only have to pay $1/year for rent?”
The key phrase is “Yes, but should”. The subjective “that’s not fair” arguement of whining liberal. Signed contracts are an issue of objective fact, and not unilaterally alterable on the whims of the signatories.
RTO
I think it stops with the voters.
Right.
That’s because the city and the community aren’t really getting any value out of the Boy Scouts.
Absolutely. We should raise the rent on these deadbeats as soon as possible. That’s about 2,500 Boy Scouts per year that would have been ‘scholarshipped’ into a Troop, but the city DEFINITELY needs that money more.
Lord knows, in Philly, there is no need for a program like this otherwise screwing up perfectly good boys from broken homes.
Throw’em out on the street.
“Most of the big cities in the US are very liberal and thus can give free rent to Planned Parenthood or some Gay Rights group.”
Been there, done that. Austin TX spends $1 million on abortion funding. And in liberal school districts, gay groups in high schools get funded. The idea that somehow funding BSA would make this nonsense more likely is only your hallucinations.
They’ll probably open a mosque there as soon as the scouts are out.
The scouts and the city are legal entities in perpetuity but times have changed; since 1928 it is hardly likely that more than a few 100 men are alive now that were involved in the original contract but the contract must exist somewhere.
Being no mention of the length of the signed lease in this or any other reports available to us right now this might well be settled by a local court.
It might be necessary to cough up the $200,000 and petition a judge or court to hold the money in escrow while the thing gets settled in a court of law instead of now being argued in the court of public opinion which seems to be rather fickle of late.
All but one of the Philly City Council members voted to raise the Scouts rent.
Sounds like the voters have spoken, or at least will get to speak at the next election.
I do not think any of the members that voted to raise the rent will be voted out of office.
It's been explained to you about 50 times already, but it seems you just can't read.
No. Basic real estate law: When you improve leased land, the improvement becomes the property of the owner. If you lease an acre from me, you're a fool if you build a house on it, because it becomes my house.
They used to teach this in the required freshman Business Law 101 in college. What happened that so many don't know this? This goes back to English Common Law, and it's one of the many carry overs to American law.
Well, the Council has, anyway.
I understand that the Boy Scouts do Good Work. But that good work should not entitle them to pay $1.00 rent.
Why did Michael Dell get free land in Nashville that it now seems obvious his company has no plans to use it?
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