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After delays, 'virtual fence' nearly ready for acceptance testing
ap on San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 10/17/07 | Arthur H. Rotstein - ap

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:52:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

TUCSON, Ariz. – Defense contractor Boeing Co. has told the government it believes it has solved most of the problems that have delayed use of the first section of a high-tech “virtual fence” along the nation's borders for months.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials, however, said they'll wait until acceptance testing now set for late October is done before passing judgment. The 28-mile section of fence along the U.S.-Mexico border in southern Arizona is the first of thousands of miles planned on the nation's southern and northern borders.

Boeing personnel who briefed federal officials “sounded real optimistic” about the fixes, said Brad Benson, a Customs and Border Protection spokesman in Washington. “I have talked to Border Patrol personnel, and they weren't quite that optimistic.”

Operation of the nine 98-foot towers north of the Arizona-Mexico border near the port of entry at Sasabe has been delayed for at least four months because of computer software glitches.

Loaded with sensors, radar and sophisticated cameras, the towers are designed to detect illegal immigrants and drug smugglers coming through the heavily trafficked area southwest of Tucson.

The $20 million virtual fence pilot project remains on hold because software designed to integrate the results of sensor hits, radar readings and camera sightings wasn't working correctly. A glitch in the programming has kept it from providing a common operating picture for agents, who plan to use it to spot and capture illegal entrants and smugglers.

Because of that, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told a Congressional committee last month that he would withhold further payment to Boeing, the prime contractor, and declined to accept the system until he was satisfied.

He called acceptance testing “a little bit like buying a car. We didn't want to get stuck with a lemon,” he testified.

That testing is now set for the last week in October, Benson said.

The virtual fence is being tested first in Arizona, the focal point for illegal crossings into the United States from Mexico. But plans call for installing 1,800 such towers along both the Mexican and Canadian borders.

Benson said Border Patrol agents have employed some of the towers' equipment to assist in apprehensions of illegal immigrants. But that doesn't mean all systems are functioning in an integrated manner or that agents are seeing one common picture as intended, he said.

“There's some usefulness there, but it's still not there,” Benson said.

Even if the system passes, other tests may follow, and other faults may crop up during operation.

“Our guys have said the true test of whether we're accepting it is whether the Border Patrol is using it,” Benson said. “It's not ready for prime time. We still have a little way to go.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: acceptance; aliens; borderpatrol; delays; illegals; immigrantlist; smugglers; testing; virtualfence
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To: ModelBreaker

Stopping them? The ones that get caught are just sent back to try again in a matter of hours. One of my supervisors was once asked by a reporter how many illegal aliens got away from the Border Patrol, his answer was: “They all get away.”


21 posted on 10/17/2007 8:41:20 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Travis McGee
Maybe the camera system can have some taser-type thingys with little huts of border patrol around to provide assistance.


Your remark about a fence around the White House is just to practical in this day and age.) :^)
22 posted on 10/17/2007 8:41:58 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Bronzewound

Ahah, I’ll have to remember that.


23 posted on 10/17/2007 8:43:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They think virtual walls are okay, because they view this as a virtual problem.


24 posted on 10/17/2007 8:44:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne

Well, whatever your intentions; it helped me.


25 posted on 10/18/2007 2:00:50 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: NormsRevenge

Border ping.


26 posted on 10/18/2007 4:03:19 AM PDT by Bodhi1 (Homeschools for a reason.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I have no doubt that the technology exists that could make a virtual fence effective. The biggest problem I have with using technology in this manner is that I am familiar with how the government does things. It is common for gov't to spend tons of money on bells and whistles and then neglect the upkeep on the bells and whistles when the next budget cut happens. If we the people demand an actual visible border fence we will know if it is being maintained- or not. With a virtual fence we will never know if all the workings are functioning or if they have been maintained or not.
27 posted on 10/18/2007 7:57:03 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“April 15th is coming. I hope they like my virtual tax payment.”

Just tell them you were “testing it” to make sure it works.


28 posted on 10/18/2007 10:51:42 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: freekitty

I’m just kidding you. I appreciate the comments. At times I only feel sane around here on alternate days though. LOL

You take care.


29 posted on 10/18/2007 2:15:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: FastCoyote

Good idea.


30 posted on 10/18/2007 2:17:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne

Me too. Ever since I retired I am having what they tell me are Senior moments. LOL


31 posted on 10/18/2007 3:02:08 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: freekitty

I’m more or less kidding. It’s very interesting to read some takes on the forum. There are days when I shake my head and wonder what people could be thinking to say the things they do. I make some pretty good mistakes myself at times.

I haven’t seen you doing it though. Are you trying to make all of us look bad. ;-)


32 posted on 10/18/2007 3:09:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne

You are right. All of these candidates need to be asked about border protection, amnesty and sovereignty. If they are piping a virtual fence and a few more border control agents, they can virtually expect to not get my vote.


33 posted on 10/18/2007 3:10:03 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Don’t you worry one little bit. I don’t always say what others consider the right thing. Now, if I can just get those grammer and spelling police off my back. LOL


34 posted on 10/18/2007 3:14:38 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: indylindy

I agree.


35 posted on 10/18/2007 3:32:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: freekitty
There are times after a particularly rough thread, where I’ll take some time to rest. Other than that, I don’t let it bother me.

As for the spelling police, I have no idea what deep seated issue drives them to think they can’t let a misspelled word go by without acting like someone’s doting mommy. I generally dismiss them out of hand.

If I work up a rough draft of something, my wife feels compelled to correct all the spelling errors before evaluating the document. The first spelling error she mentions, I take the document and don’t ask her for any more input. This has helped quite a bit.

After I’ve completed a document, I don’t mind at all. Then I need a proof reader. The first pass is for structural content and clarity of vision.

36 posted on 10/18/2007 3:38:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne

Good advice.


37 posted on 10/18/2007 3:40:40 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: NormsRevenge

“’virtual fence’ nearly ready for acceptance testing “

Acceptance by Mexico, no doubt. I’m sure they’ll be very pleased.


38 posted on 10/18/2007 3:41:02 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: freekitty

Well, it’s sortof a tough love thing. I don’t like doing it, so I don’t offer her the chance to correct my writing very often. I now she means well, it just drives me to distraction.


39 posted on 10/18/2007 3:50:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne

I have a husband that likes to insert his opinion a lot. LOL


40 posted on 10/18/2007 4:17:53 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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