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Police face Mexican military, smugglers Armed standoff along U.S. border
The Daily Bulletin, Ontario Calif ^ | 10/16/07 | Sara A. Carter and Kenneth Todd Ruiz

Posted on 10/17/2007 3:49:51 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan

Mexican soldiers and civilian smugglers had an armed standoff with nearly 30 U.S. law enforcement officials on the Rio Grande in Texas Monday afternoon, according to Texas police and the FBI.

Mexican military Humvees were towing what appeared to be thousands of pounds of marijuana across the border into the United States, said Chief Deputy Mike Doyal, of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department.

Mexican Army troops had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border -- near Neely's Crossing, about 50 miles east of El Paso -- when Border Patrol agents called for backup. Hudspeth County deputies and Texas Highway patrol officers arrived shortly afterward, Doyal said.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal said. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

An FBI spokeswoman confirmed the incident happened at 2:15 p.m. Pacific Time.

"Bad guys in three vehicles ended up on the border," said Andrea Simmons, a spokeswoman with the FBI's El Paso office. "People with Humvees, who appeared to be with the Mexican Army, were involved with the three vehicles in getting them back across."

Simmons said the FBI was not involved and referred inquiries to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

ICE did not return calls seeking comment.

Doyal said deputies captured one vehicle in the incident, a Cadillac Escalade reportedly stolen from El Paso, and found 1,477 pounds of marijuana inside. The Mexican soldiers set fire to one of the Humvees stuck in the river, he said.

Doyal's deputies faced a similar incident on Nov. 17, when agents from the Fort Hancock border patrol station in Texas called the sheriff's department for backup after confronting more than six fully armed men dressed in Mexican military uniforms. The men -- who were carrying machine guns and driving military vehicles -- were trying to bring more than three tons of marijuana across the Rio Grande, Doyal said.

Doyal said such incidents are common at Neely's Crossing, which is near Fort Hancock, Texas, and across from the Mexican state of Chihuahua.

"It happens quite often here," he said.

Deputies and border patrol agents are not equipped for combat, he added.

"Our government has to do something," he said. "It's not the immigrants coming over for jobs we're worried about. It's the smugglers, Mexican military and the national threat to our borders that we're worried about."

Citing a Jan. 15 story in the Daily Bulletin, Reps. David Dreier, R-Glendora, and Duncan Hunter, R-San Diego, last week asked the House Judiciary Committee, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, the House Homeland Security Committee and the House International Relations Committee to investigate the incursions. The story focused on a Department of Homeland Security document reporting 216 incursions by Mexican soldiers during the past 10 years and a map with the seal of the president's Office of National Drug Control Policy, both of which were given to the newspaper.

Requests by Dreier, chairman of the House Rules Committee, and Hunter were made in jointly signed letters.

On Wednesday, Chertoff played down the reports of border incursions by the Mexican military. He suggested many of the incursions could have been mistakes, blaming bad navigation by military personnel or attributing the incursions to criminals dressed in military garb.

Mexican officials last week denied any incursions made by their military.

But border agents interviewed over the past year have discussed confrontations those they believe to be Mexican military personnel.

"We're sitting ducks," said a border agent speaking on condition of anonymity. "The government has our hands tied."

- Sara A. Carter can be reached by e-mail at sara.carter@dailybulletin.com or by phone at (909) 483-8552.

- Kenneth Todd Ruiz can be reached by e-mail at todd.ruiz@dailybulletin.com or by phone at (909) 483-8555.


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; compean; drugsmuggling; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; mexico; ramos; sutton
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41 posted on 10/17/2007 10:07:51 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Bulldawg Fan

BUMP


42 posted on 10/17/2007 10:42:23 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Bulldawg Fan

"You say illegal aliens are attempting to murder ICE agents, are setting fire to
forests and fields along the border to distract US Border Patrol Agents to make
their crossing easier, and throwing Molotov cocktails at US agents’ vehicles, and
setting fire to their observation posts? "

"I'm the Homeland Security Chief. What do you want me to do about it? "

43 posted on 10/17/2007 10:48:25 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: gubamyster; Admin Moderator

Old Story!

Mexico arrests drug suspects in cross-border conflict[Hudspeth County, Texas 2006 incursion]

Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | April 27, 2007

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1825109/posts


44 posted on 10/17/2007 11:24:54 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: Travis McGee
NEW!!!!!!

Armed standoff along US border
Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, CA - Oct 16, 2007
... be thousands of pounds of marijuana across the border into the United States, said Chief Deputy Mike Doyal, of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department. ...

45 posted on 10/17/2007 11:26:58 AM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant — one who is "selected, not endured" - Nicholas Sarkozy)
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To: Travis McGee

I think this is the incident from January 23, 2006.


46 posted on 10/17/2007 12:25:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: Bulldawg Fan

“Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us.”

Yeah...that would be a bad thing,defending our borders against armed invaders with tons of contraband.
Maybe if we had had some machine guns of our own there this would have ended quickly. This madness has GOT to STOP!!!!!


47 posted on 10/17/2007 12:41:30 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Finally, Fred!...Welcome aboard!..Now,Go get 'em,boy!!!!)
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To: dennisw; B4Ranch

The article is being reported/reprinted in an obscure Cali Journel in Oct 2007, but it seems to be repeating the facts of the Hudspeth County Texas incident of January 2006.


48 posted on 10/17/2007 1:34:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Sybeck1

While that would be fun, we seem to be using many of our inventory elsewhere...I once sat in the gunner’s seat of an Apache...(ROTC recruiting drive) I think it would be quite effective at eliminating such invaders...It would also catch them red-handed “accidentally” on the wrong side of the river...What’s the Apache’s complement of rockets again? *evil grin*


49 posted on 10/17/2007 1:53:27 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: Bulldawg Fan; gubamyster; HiJinx; Travis McGee

“Mexican military Humvees were towing what appeared to be thousands of pounds of marijuana across the border into the United States”

Mexicans just doing jobs Americans won’t do...


50 posted on 10/17/2007 1:58:58 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Dawg, this is an old story.

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51 posted on 10/17/2007 2:26:07 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Its a new story in the source I got it from. Whether its old news or not does not diminish the impact of having Mexican soldiers forcably cross the border and we wink and nod.


52 posted on 10/17/2007 6:01:58 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: kellynla; Bulldawg Fan; Travis; Mcgee; HiJinx

This isn’t an OLD story, it’s a continuing story that should be publicized. Because it isn’t is proof to me that Mexico’s culture of corruption has not only infected our border governments and press but has insinuated itself into the mainstream press and U.S. government agencies charged with protecting us from these evil entities.

Sure, good readers - laugh all you like (especially those of you living where the illegals are still a super-minority). This corruptive breakdown from cartels telling US agents they have to choose between lead and gold versus our agents getting no support from the head office...

The very federal government is challenged to defend it’s right of existence or roll over like an unfit bitch for a raping by criminals.

If the Feds aren’t up to this let the fighting begin.


53 posted on 10/17/2007 8:23:19 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: Travis McGee; dennisw; B4Ranch

Worth a second look.


54 posted on 10/17/2007 9:26:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Why? I think this is the incident from January 23, 2006.


55 posted on 10/17/2007 9:31:45 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: stephenjohnbanker; B4Ranch

It is the Jan 06 event. On LP they sorted out how it got reinserted.


56 posted on 10/17/2007 9:38:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks.


57 posted on 10/17/2007 9:54:02 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: B4Ranch

For those who are not familiar with the incident. I remember it.


58 posted on 10/17/2007 9:55:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Liz
"I'm the Homeland Security Chief. What do you want me to do about it? " Sorry. If it looks like a dweeb, talks like a dweeb, and thinks like a dweeb ... it's a dweeb!
59 posted on 10/17/2007 10:07:29 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our soldiers - my heroes)
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To: Travis McGee

Where is Johnny Sutton?


60 posted on 10/17/2007 10:13:16 PM PDT by Pelham (Spanish is the new English)
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