Posted on 10/17/2007 12:29:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Earlier today it was reported that Fred Thompson was saying that Rudy Giuliani is no conservative. After those remarks got out, Giuliani's camp had a few words in retort:
Giuliani spokeswoman Maria Comella tells First Read that the former New York mayor "is the only candidate who does more than just talk about the importance of Republican principles — he actually has the track record to back it up. It's easy to throw around meaningless rhetoric, but quite another thing to stand up to a Democratic majority and successfully cut taxes, control spending, and reform welfare."
Interesting. Rudy says his record speaks for itself, eh?
Well, then, if Rudy wants to stand on that record, let's review it closer to see how Rudy stood on conservative principles in the past.
On the idea of running for office as a conservative, here is what Rudy had to say in 1996.
"Well, I'm a Republican mayor, but I"m really not. I'm the mayor of New York City. I ran as a Republican, I ran as a Liberal — which really confuses all kinds of people — and I ran as an Independent, as part of the Independent Party, which actually is now the party that's supporting Ross Perot. So I ran a fusion candidacy, like my predecessor Fiorello LaGuardia. So I'm not the most partisan of Republicans."
Yeah, his words DO speak for themselves!
Rudy was actively against running as a conservative then. Why should we believe he isn't still?
And, here is something worse. Rudy recently attacked leftist, extremist George Sorros for being "vicious.".
“I think that George Soros and MoveOn.org is kind of a new low in vicious, politics of personal destruction…Every campaign I’ve ever seen from them has been about personally destroying the Republican"
Soros is bad in "every campaign" he's "ever seen" says Rudy.
But there's that annoying record of Rudy's standing in the way of that claim and it seems to contradict Rudy's past distaste of George Soros. As it turns out, Rudy actually freely and publicly once worked with Soros in a coalition of groups and individuals who joined New York City to fight the Federal Government on immigration laws. And Rudy claimed his association with Soros by name in a speech in 1996.
As Giuliani said in 1996:
Today I am also announcing that my office will be working with a coalition of well-known individuals and organizations who oppose the anti-immigration forces now being seen in Washington and elsewhere.
Among the members of this coalition will be Bob Tisch, Co-chair and Co-C.E.O. of the Loew's Corporation…
Alan Greenberg, chair of Bear Stearns & Company, Inc…
The artist Peter Max, a naturalized American born in Germany…
George Soros, international financier and founder of the "Emma Lazarus Fund," which assists legal immigrants…
I guess Rudy has only just discovered his distaste for Mr. Soros despite his claim to have somehow always been upset with him. It seems Rudy is finding a lot of new found feelings of late.
So now Rudy’s claiming to be a conservative? Republican principles? Bwahahahashahaah!! Puke.
Hate to break it to you but it’s either going to be Rudy or Mitt in ‘08...and I’m supporting Rudy.
Go Rudy!
If that’s the case, then I see no point in voting. Rudy would barely be better than Clinton anyway.
Go Rudy!
Heh, some people just have a thing for women with fat ankles. Congratulations.
Speak loudly and carry a small D!CK.
Rudy Giuliani
So do you have any idea how much money is being pumped into rooootys campaign by soros?lib vs lib lite? No thanks
Soros and Thompson are in the same club too.
It's your choice as a free man in a free nation. That will last right up until Hillary beats Rudy because his nomination fractures the base.
Rudy will not be able to carry the base in the election. He is a fatally flawed candidate.
Most folks are "show me" types when it comes to Presidential candidates. Rudy showed a little too much. He came on strong after 9/11, but that is not enough to convince people he's a conservative. It's only enough to show that Rudy has basic survival instincts.
That's enought to separate him from the democrat party candidate, but not enough to make him a conservative.
History repeats itself and those who ignore history are doomed to failure.
Very recent history proves that you cannot win an election for a GOP candidate unless you carry the conservative base. Period.
It's both amusing and alarming that so many people are able to grasp the implications of so many issues from a conservative perspective, but are willing to forgo conservative principles when it comes to selecting a candidate.
When will it sink in that liberals win when conservatives abandon their cause? They problem here is that most Rudy supporters have allowed themselves to be defeated before the battle has begun. That is why they are willing to support a RINO instead of a true conservative.
I will not support him, nor Romney.
We need to be making liberals abandon their principles. Not surrender ours because the road looks too tough.
Surrender is not an option. The enemy promises NO QUARTER...
What club would that be?
Oh really? Care to explain that.I await your reply.
And yet, where is Soros putting his money? I doubt it’s going to Guliani.
Rudy can kiss off.
Fred, keep, chipping away
Rudy was a great big city liberal mayor. He would make a rotten President. I’m from the South. This is Fred country. Flannel shirts , pickups and a slow Tennesse drawl.
There is a vast difference between Rudy and Clinton. If you help Clinton to become president, you will live to regret it.....I am praying everyday that the Lord will save us from that mad woman.
Riiiight...
“Well, I’m a Republican mayor, but I”m really not. I’m the mayor of New York City. I ran as a Republican, I ran as a Liberal — which really confuses all kinds of people — and I ran as an Independent, as part of the Independent Party, which actually is now the party that’s supporting Ross Perot. So I ran a fusion candidacy, like my predecessor Fiorello LaGuardia. So I’m not the most partisan of Republicans.”
Wonder if this is on tape somewhere.
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