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Brownback to pitch proposal apologizing for slavery
The Boston Globe ^ | October 16, 2007 | Jenn Abelson

Posted on 10/16/2007 7:08:55 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Senator Sam Brownback, a Republican trying to inject new life into his beleaguered presidential campaign, plans to offer a resolution this week for Congress to apologize for slavery and segregation.

Brownback, of Kansas, told The Boston Globe's editorial board yesterday he will join an unnamed Democrat in sponsoring the proposal. He said he expects a tough fight on the resolution, even though it will not include any call for reparations.

"They were federal policies," he said. "They were wrong. The only way for us to move forward . . . is at the end of day acknowledging those, taking ownership for it, and asking for forgiveness."

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; brownback; candidate; dhimmi; dhimwhit; doofus; fred; fredthompson2008; immigration; lefty; libs; rino; slavery; switchback
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To: traditional1

He sure as hell needs to.


121 posted on 10/17/2007 1:59:43 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Idiot. He’s feeding the race-baiters.

Thanks a lot, Sam. NOT!


122 posted on 10/17/2007 2:13:12 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: BerniesFriend

“The whole art of politics today consists of pandering to the weakness, fears, and greed of the people.”

Switchback pretty much hits it out of the park on this one.


123 posted on 10/17/2007 4:55:57 AM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Sam Brownback's stupid attempt to pander to Afro-racists is the nail in the coffin of his dying campaign. Heck, NO!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

124 posted on 10/17/2007 4:59:13 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

He needs to abandon the podium in the race. He has “zero” chance.


125 posted on 10/17/2007 5:00:36 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Our best candidate, Fred Thompson was a Senator


Sorry, but I’ve seen Fred—he just does not have the fire in the belly. I honestly don’t have an ax to grind against the man, just not impressed with what I have seen so far.


126 posted on 10/17/2007 5:25:34 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I have NOT read the whole thread but it is called ‘compassionate’ conservatism.... give aways before the liberals come to take what we have...


127 posted on 10/17/2007 5:27:12 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
What is it with this guy?

Sam has never been the sharpest tool in the shed. And when desperation sets in and even you chance of being picked as Veep start to fade away then you try anything.

128 posted on 10/17/2007 5:28:34 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
The appropriate apology for slavery:

Slavery is a horrible thing. It fetters the human spirit, and inevitably destroys the lives of both the slave and the owner.

Chattel slavery has been illegal, thank God, in these United States for over a hundred years. But, in its place, we have erected another, more insidious form.

Today, the cruel master is the government, whose promises to "help" have brought nothing but destruction. Because welfare policies promote money for babies, we have more poor illegitimate children suckling from the public teat than we should. Because welfare policies discourage self-support, we have generations of people who have learned not to forge ahead with their dreams, but to lounge atop the largesse of the taxpayer.

Governmental "charity" has wrought all of this on the descendents of those who once were slaves. But that is not even the worst offense. Not by a long shot!

Much worse is the financial chains that have shackled the taxpayer into supporting other men's families. Inifinitely more grievous is the ongoing pillaging of that most personal of property - one's paycheck.

For that, this conservative [me, not Brownback] is truly remorseful.

Now, we must fight to right this wrong, and to give those in true need a hand-up, instead of a hand-out!

129 posted on 10/17/2007 5:38:10 AM PDT by MortMan (Have a pheasant plucking day!)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

What you just mentioned is like the theme of Bunyan’s ‘’Pilgrim’s Progress’’ but from a political, instead of a spiritual, standpoint. To say that the GOP routinely shoots itself in the foot seems like a cliche and a vast understatement, doesn’t it? I think these guys are secret HRC supporters, considering how they campaign. Certainly they are 2008 versions of Lazio of 2000.


130 posted on 10/17/2007 6:45:26 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: rbg81

Right, I think Fred is already missing the cast of ‘’Law and Order’’ and knows he has entered the quicksand without an exit strategy. However, Republican primary voters, I am sure, will give him the exit strategy.


131 posted on 10/17/2007 6:47:55 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: rbg81

Right, I think Fred is already missing the cast of ‘’Law and Order’’ and knows he has entered the quicksand without an exit strategy. However, Republican primary voters, I am sure, will give him the exit strategy.


132 posted on 10/17/2007 6:48:12 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Biblebelter

Congress declined sharply after Senator Helms retired.


133 posted on 10/17/2007 6:49:47 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: traditional1

Brownback needs to drop out BEFORE the debate not after.


134 posted on 10/17/2007 8:21:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

can we toss in a resolution demanding an appology for about 400 years of slavery under the ottoman empire?

a twoferone?


135 posted on 10/17/2007 8:23:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
"Brownback needs to drop out BEFORE the debate not after."

Unfortunately, outside the top three or four, ALL the wannabe's who register single digit support percentages should step aside, but that won't happen until they run the money out. They don't care that more than half of Americans don't even know who they are!

There's a tremendous waste of time and money going on that could better be utilized to promote the ELECTABLE candidate(s).

136 posted on 10/17/2007 8:24:02 AM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Brownback should read some history. In 1865, The President of the United States made a very profound apology for slavery --- one far more meaningful and heart felt than any of our current pandering, headline-seaking politicians are even remotely capable of.

Abraham Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address
Washington, D.C.
March 4, 1865

At this second appearing to take the oath of the presidential office, there is less occasion for an extended address than there was at the first. Then a statement, somewhat in detail, of a course to be pursued, seemed fitting and proper. Now, at the expiration of four years, during which public declarations have been constantly called forth on every point and phase of the great contest which still absorbs the attention, and engrosses the energies of the nation, little that is new could be presented. The progress of our arms, upon which all else chiefly depends, is as well known to the public as to myself; and it is, I trust, reasonably satisfactory and encouraging to all. With high hope for the future, no prediction in regard to it is ventured. On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago, all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it--all sought to avert it. While the inaugeral [sic] address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war--seeking to dissole [sic] the Union, and divide effects, by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war; but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came.

One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union, even by war; while the government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war, the magnitude, or the duration, which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with, or even before, the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered; that of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has his own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!" If we shall suppose that American Slavery is one of those offences which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South, this terrible war, as the woe due to those by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a Living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope--fervently do we pray--that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether"

With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan--to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations.


137 posted on 10/17/2007 8:36:40 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

“They were federal policies,” he said. “They were wrong. The only way for us to move forward . . . is at the end of day acknowledging those, taking ownership for it, and asking for forgiveness.”

Sorry, 600,000 dead Americans paid for the ‘sin’ of slavery. I don’t owe anyone an apology.

Likewise, segregation...gee, which political party supported that concept in the first place?

It wasn’t Brownback’s alleged party.

This guy is as dumb as I thought he was.


138 posted on 10/17/2007 8:39:31 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Brownback is a complete ass, and he will never win anything.


139 posted on 10/17/2007 8:42:06 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: traditional1

The ONLY requirement is a $200 airplane ticket and the price of a hotel room. Figure $500 to appear on a debate.

DIRT CHEEP. (kind of funny when you think keys is not there)

They will not run out of money for that type of free airtime.

Heck ronpaul has too many hsu style “donors” to allow that.


140 posted on 10/17/2007 8:52:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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