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Staph Infection Kills Virginia Student, Prompts Closing of 21 Schools
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Posted on 10/16/2007 12:35:10 PM PDT by Gopher Broke

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To: endthematrix

thanks, bfl


61 posted on 10/16/2007 2:41:50 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: seekthetruth

I am glad that your great nephew is recovering. But four weeks ago? How many other cases have been breaking out in this neck of the Virginian woods? And he wan’t the only one to get it either. This sounds a lot more serious than this report is letting on.


62 posted on 10/16/2007 2:55:56 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

“I am glad that your great nephew is recovering. But four weeks ago? How many other cases have been breaking out in this neck of the Virginian woods? And he wan’t the only one to get it either. This sounds a lot more serious than this report is letting on.”

I know, that is why I am so concerned. When this happened to my great nephew, my sister told me that it was on their local Washington,DC news about a few of the students on the school football team coming down with the infection. The schools in my nephew’s town (3-5) were closed for 10/5 and 10/6 for cleaning. With this outbreak hitting the news today, this sounds very serious to me. Pray no other kids die from this and that they get to stop this from happening.


63 posted on 10/16/2007 3:13:41 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: Oberon

Good thought. You are so right. The treatment for MRSA out-patient “infections” (eg. skin infections) has become sulfa or tetracycline or vancomycin, depending on the susceptibility of the MRSA bacteria. Sulfa was not a drug that we commonly used on skin infections until recently. We used to use keflex or erythromycin for skin infections but MRSA is resistant to them now.

However, sulfa or other drugs do not “eradicate” the MRSA — meaning that people who have recovered from MRSA abscesses still carry the bacteria. Hopefully, a successful regime will be discovered in the near future.


64 posted on 10/16/2007 3:27:28 PM PDT by Kay
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I would say forget the Purell and use what we did back when I was doing bench science: 70-100% ethanol. Sure, the gel is more convenient, but the alcohol is what kills the bacteria and I don't know if 61% EtOH is concentrated/strong enough. Get some lab-grade EtOH and put it in a squirt bottle near the sink or carry it around with you in a spritzer (think trial-size hairspray bottle) to use on your hands. It's very unlikely that "germs" will develop a resistance to EtOH like they do to antibiotics, so you won't have to worry about generating more resistant strains.

Granted, 100% EtOH does evaporate pretty quickly, so we tended to use 90%. For ridiculous cleaning on NON-FLAMMABLE surfaces like glassware, we used to squirt them down with EtOH and flame them briefly. Not safe for most stuff at home, though. :/
65 posted on 10/16/2007 3:37:01 PM PDT by slightlyovertaxed
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To: TruthConquers
I just hope that no other kids die.

I hope they don't either.

But I do have to wonder, is more of this in the future? I am afraid so.

I think the number of cases has been growing yearly.

At one time the cases were mainly the elderly in hospitals and nursing homes. A great number of the cases involved the respiratory tract or lungs without open sores to see. The patients are usually placed in contact isolation and sometimes respiratory isolation using masks, gloves and gowns for nurses and visitors.

Some people opt to stay at home and they are usually seen by home health nurses as they are qualified to administer IV antibotics in the home.

For years when flying I have used bacitracin or triple antibiotic ointment in my nose. Just a precautionary measure for any disease since you are in such a small area without good ventilation.

66 posted on 10/16/2007 4:55:02 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: texastoo

I don’t fly very often, but I will write that down. Sounds useful for the future.


67 posted on 10/16/2007 4:59:29 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Good points. I think that we have known for years that people who take antibiotics, or parents that have taken large doses of the same are less resistant and their off-spring less resistant to infection.

I knew this years ago, so I only take antibiotics if I really have to, and if no other treatment or natural remedy exists. I can count on one hand the number of time I have taken antibiotics in the last 15 years, or as you say, using anti-bacterial soaps, etc.

68 posted on 10/16/2007 5:10:51 PM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: Gopher Broke

One Nashua, New Hampshire, high school had several cases recently.

A young child died from it in NH in the past few days:

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=NH+child+dies+from+staph+infection%3b+source+unknown&articleId=c1a79fc7-686f-4d18-8b13-6e9c85d4542f


69 posted on 10/16/2007 6:18:55 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Kay
Those nasty “corporations”! Come on. Be reasonable. Don’t join the liberal emotional wagon. Even the little businesses are encorporated.

Clearly, there is no doubt that corporations have the immense organization and funding to do good things that the little guys would never be able to do. Clearly, they have been the springboard to advancement not dreamed of in the last century. But just as clearly, big corporate syndicates have gained a standing beyond that of the individual citizen. You say that I should open my eyes, and I guess look at the narrow world you seem to be living in. I suggest that you open your mind and broaden your vision.

When one looks past the material luxuries and easy life, one will see that they came at a very high price. Individuality, independence, freedom of the press, electoral and legal processes, virtually every thing in the world is viewed through the prism of corporate funding. There was a time when the founding fathers viewed corporations with distrust, They rightly feared the financial power of corporations as they feared the financial power of the royal families. During the Twentieth Century corporate consolidations put funding and control into a smaller number of hands of unelected people, who used their power to influence government officials. They control much of the media, and political funding. They "own" the politicians who make the laws and appoint the judges that arbitrate disputes. The politicians fear the wrath of corporations more than they do the wrath of the people they are elected to represent. The world's consolidated corporate syndicates function as the royals of old ruling essentially every aspect of human life.

It appears many narrow minded folks think with a laser view of the world and never recognize the new paradigms until they read about them in the history books.

70 posted on 10/16/2007 7:27:15 PM PDT by ghostrider
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To: texastoo
For years when flying I have used bacitracin or triple antibiotic ointment in my nose. Just a precautionary measure for any disease since you are in such a small area without good ventilation.

Good idea. I'm stealing it.

71 posted on 10/16/2007 8:01:42 PM PDT by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz can't foresee even the clearest consequences to their actions...)
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To: null and void
Good idea. I'm stealing it.

Go for it!

72 posted on 10/16/2007 8:03:58 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Uhh, not necessarily. It depends on the type and spectrum of the antibiotic. 'Broad-spectrum' antibiotics are just that- they kill a variety of organisms without being picky. That includes organisms that occur naturally in the human body, usually in the mouth and GI tract. That's why when patients take Ciprofloxacin or Cefazolin, they get oral thrush, vaginal yeast infections, or Clostridium difficile "superinfections." Of these, "C-diff" is by far the worst. It's highly contagious, is not eliminated by alcohol-based hand sanitizers, and it can kill you.

Antibiotics are not a cure-all. If you have a cold, don't ask for them. Sure, doctors contributed to the problem we have by prescribing then irresponsibly, but patients are also to blame for demanding that they be given antibiotics for every frigging headcold or sniffle.

73 posted on 10/16/2007 11:44:16 PM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: running with scissors and playing with sharp objects- ain't America great?.)
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To: Greg F
Wash your hands, soap and hot water as you leave any institutional facility (school, prison, hospital, gym).

Wrong.

Do NOT use HOT water to wash your hands. Use WARM water. Hot water eliminates the oils that your skin secretes that protect your skin from bacteria. Use comfortably warm water.

Make lots of suds, people! And clean underneath all those flashy rings, too! Bacteria love hiding under those flashy rings! 15 seconds of good, foamy suds! Rinse completely! Dry completely! Bacteria love moisture. If your hands are still moist, the next thing you touch will ruin all that hard work.

74 posted on 10/16/2007 11:50:40 PM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: running with scissors and playing with sharp objects- ain't America great?.)
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To: Sunshine Sister
The truth is that if used correctly, any soap that produces good suds is 'antibacterial.'

Why? Well, I'm glad you asked.

Soap bubbles form micelles around bits of dirt and junk and lift them away from the skin and make it easy to rinse away all those goobers.

This thing about people passing their hands through running water- stop doing it. You've done nothing but make it easier for the next guy to get what you have. Wash your frigging hands.

75 posted on 10/16/2007 11:55:05 PM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: running with scissors and playing with sharp objects- ain't America great?.)
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To: Kay
This particular strain of MRSA must be unusually virulent and unique if it is shutting down these schools. This is quite peculiar. I’d like to hear their reasoning.

I don't necessarily agree that this is a new, more virulent strain of S. aureus. I think the answer is more simple, and can be presented in the form of a question: When was the last time you met a kid who practiced decent hygiene?

I would wager that if we shut every school in America down for a month and sanitize the everlovin' crap out of them- I mean, make them as sterile as an operating room- maybe one week after the kids and faculty/staff come back in, the places would be as filthy as before. Why? Because kids are nasty, unhygienic, wipe-snot-on-the-sleeve, pee-in-the-playground-equipment, spit-on-the-floor, not-wash-hands-after-wiping-butt beasts. And most adults are, too.

As for eradiciating MRSA, you are of course right on the money. MRSA just plain sucks.

76 posted on 10/17/2007 12:07:56 AM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: running with scissors and playing with sharp objects- ain't America great?.)
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To: YourAdHere
Just a coincidence that Virginia has an illegal immigrant problem.

Spurious argument. While I am dead-set against illegal immigration, this is one thing we cannot pin on them. This is a problem caused by an industrialized, econimically-developed country full of people who demand an antibiotic for every frigging problem they encounter. Sorry, bud. This one is our fault.

77 posted on 10/17/2007 12:12:37 AM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: running with scissors and playing with sharp objects- ain't America great?.)
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To: najida
Hibiclens is what is recommended to remove it from the skin.

Our hospital's ID doc disagrees with that. Ordinary soap and water will remove MRSA from the skin. Hibiclens removes everything- including the 'good' bacteria that keep the 'bad' bacteria beaten down.

Hibiclens is good for Clostridium difficile, but I wouldn't use it for much else. Not unless you want cellulitis of the hands because you just wiped out your skin's natural defenses with Hibiclens.

78 posted on 10/17/2007 12:17:43 AM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: running with scissors and playing with sharp objects- ain't America great?.)
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To: Oberon
I wonder if good old-fashioned sulfa drugs are an option...

Nope.

79 posted on 10/17/2007 12:22:15 AM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: running with scissors and playing with sharp objects- ain't America great?.)
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To: Gopher Broke

My sister’s ex hubby had the infection. He only lasted 24 hrs after the doctors found out what it was.


80 posted on 10/17/2007 12:40:33 AM PDT by chemicalman (I didn't jump on the bandwagon. It snagged and dragged me for a few miles.)
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