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Spitzer removes "temporary visitor" stamp from driver's licenses of non-citizens (vote suckup)
Buffalo News ^ | October 15, 2007 | Tom Precious - the Buffalo News, Albany Bureau

Posted on 10/15/2007 9:54:11 AM PDT by Liz

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WARNING Beware of card-carrying ACLU types like Spitler bleating about "civil rights." "Tolerant and compassionate humanitarians" like Spitler care nothing for the democracy which nurtured them; they care only about advancing their own political ambitions.

ITEM A patriot defending America protested NY Gov. Spitzer's plan to issue drivers' licenses to illegal aliens, was strong-armed, and unceremoniously shoved by a member of the governor's detail at the Columbus Day parade.

IRRATIONAL THINKING IMPOSED ON AMERICA Even scarier, politicians sucking up to illegals are saturating the US political system with the kind of offensive irrational thinking one finds in Mexican and Mideast-type hellholes.

SELF-MOTIVATED POLS TEAR DOWN POLITICAL SYSTEM Spitler (and illegal-enabler Giuliani) dance to the same piper----they are obsessed with tearing down the US political establishment to advance themselves up the political ladder. Spitler and Giuliani are orchestrating a very dirty game played by remorseless people.

1 posted on 10/15/2007 9:54:13 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Meanwhile....

As Spitzer arrives, Democrats cringe

Couldn't happen to a nicer party.

2 posted on 10/15/2007 9:57:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Liz

You can’t pass a even credit card without revealing its expiration date.


3 posted on 10/15/2007 9:59:59 AM PDT by thulldud
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To: Liz
There is going to be blood on the hands of Spitzer. Actual citizens of New York are going to get killed by illegal aliens, who could have been found and taken off the streets or highways under the old system.

Whether the NY citizens are killed on purpose in criminal activity, or killed "accidentally" in drunk driving accidents, either way they are just as dead. And just as needlessly. And just as much the fault of Spitzer.

Congressman Billybob

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My announcement of running for Congress in 2008 appears here.

4 posted on 10/15/2007 10:00:08 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Liz

I see Toilet Head is doing his thing.


5 posted on 10/15/2007 10:01:00 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Congressman Billybob; Tennessee Nana
There is going to be blood on the hands of Spitzer. Actual citizens of New York are going to get killed by illegal aliens, who could have been found and taken off the streets or highways under the old system. Whether the NY citizens are killed on purpose in criminal activity, or killed "accidentally" in drunk driving accidents, either way they are just as dead. And just as needlessly. And just as much the fault of Spitzer.

N-i-c-e take.

6 posted on 10/15/2007 10:01:47 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz
Now the State of New York is no better than the illegal aliens manufacturing phony identification for other illegal aliens. The FAA should immediately cease accepting a New York driver's license as a legitimate form of identification for boarding aircraft. It has lost its value as a state screened verification of U.S. citizenship.
7 posted on 10/15/2007 11:20:04 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Liz

According to Brian Eng, “DMV officers should not be put in a position of having to act like immigration officials.” Isn’t that too bad??!! I guess that what DMV officers should be doing then is harrassing motorists.

By the way Mr Eng, I don’t like employers being put in the position of being tax collectors. What say you??


8 posted on 10/15/2007 11:24:20 AM PDT by Smber (The smallest minority is the individual. Get the government off my back.)
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To: Smber

I suppose this is all one needs before filling out a same-day voter registration or contingent ballet. Too bad the sticker is gone. Donde esta el votingbooth?


9 posted on 10/15/2007 11:41:29 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Myrddin
It has lost its value as a state screened verification of U.S. citizenship

It never was verification of US citizenship. You have never needed to be a US citizen to get a drivers license in any state as far as I know.

10 posted on 10/15/2007 12:10:36 PM PDT by GnL
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To: Liz
There's a possibility that this whole scheme can be stopped by simply not funding it. As they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat:

Drivers License Fight Continues

While Senators repeated the concerns that have been voiced for a couple of weeks now: that this would allow terrorists into the country, it’s unfair to legal citizens, and that it was sprung on the state and local county clerks with almost no warning or input, one of the newer developments centered on the possibility that the Senate could stymie this whole plan by simply withholding funding needed to complete it.

That’s because the Phase II (Phase I has already started) entails money-requiring items such as creation of a special inspection unit to examine the passports that illegal aliens would use in lieu of Social Security numbers to get licenses.

Senator Tom Libous, R-Binghamton, for example, suggested they could still be in session in December ‘08, haggling over funding for the plan if the governor doesn’t re-think it. “It needs more thought. It needs more discussion,'’ said Libous, echoing other Republican opponents who urged Spitzer to hold back on the plan.

11 posted on 10/15/2007 12:50:28 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: mewzilla
See also

Spitzer removes "temporary visitor" stamp from driver's licenses of noncitizens
12 posted on 10/15/2007 1:30:20 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: Liz

Spitzer is an Enemy of the Republic.


13 posted on 10/15/2007 1:41:27 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

What do you get when you cross a Shyster with a Spitzer?

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Answer: a Sh*tzer!


14 posted on 10/15/2007 1:51:25 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: GnL
It never was verification of US citizenship. You have never needed to be a US citizen to get a drivers license in any state as far as I know.

California required a birth certificate when I first applied for my license in 1973. The same was true for my middle son in 2000. The has been a perennial effort by Gil Cedillo to grant licenses to illegal aliens in California. Thus far it has been rejected. I've never seen a driver's license issued to a resident alien, so I don't know if they differ from ones issued to citizens.

The effort to require a government issued photo ID when voting has also raised the issue of whether a driver's license or state issued ID should come with verification of citizenship. The Real ID effort was supposed to address that issue, but it is getting rejected as an unfunded mandate by many states.

15 posted on 10/15/2007 2:39:17 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

That’s good and very true. :)


16 posted on 10/15/2007 2:39:56 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Liz; All
The last spew from Spitzer:

Spitzer Answers Senate

“Today’s Republican Senate committee hearings make clear that the Senate would prefer I abdicate my foremost responsibility to protect the safety and security of New Yorkers rather than implement a smart DMV policy change that advances both.

“To their credit, Republican Senators “applauded” DMV Commissioner Swarts for the new anti-fraud measures that the DMV has tied to this policy change. Yet despite these vast security enhancements, which will make New York State’s license system the most secure in the nation, Senate Republicans continue to object to the policy simply on the grounds that the administration was restoring an immigrant’s access to a license.

“This policy is not about letting more people into this country. Rather it is a practical approach to dealing with those who are already here because of the federal government’s failure to adequately police our borders. We cannot ignore the reality that when hundreds of thousands of people do not have a driver’s license, it puts everyone in danger, and we can’t ignore the reality that when hundreds of thousands of people live in the shadows it makes our country less safe and law enforcement’s job much harder.”

This fool with his Orwellian speak: "less security makes us safer" cannot get it through his thick skull apparently that most of us are only talking about illegal aliens. Give it up gov, you cannot win this battle. With 72%+ of the public and a growing list of legislators against your scheme you are only prolonging the inevitable.

17 posted on 10/15/2007 2:48:20 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Liz
Spitzer wants to do his part to make is easier for terrorists, foreign drug dealers, etc. He might be on the take. Then again he might just enjoy sticking it to the US.
18 posted on 10/15/2007 2:55:18 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Liz
I've been pushing this idea amongst friends for a long time now...

Illegals want drivers licenses? I say fine. Show the documentation and our DMV offices will print you a drivers license from your home country. Why does it have to be an American drivers license?

I can't believe that, with today's technology, we can't offer other countries our services to remotely print drivers licenses from their countries, providing the people show valid, legal, proof of citizenship of their home country.

With the internet, EDI, XML, and any other sort of data transfer protocals, why can't we interface our systems with others' systems and print a Mexican drivers license in New York for a Mexican citizen living in New York who wants identification? Wouldn't this solve the "undocumented" problem, while at the same time preserving the privileges of citizenship for Americans?

Oh? That's not what you wanted? Your home countries don't like this solution? They don't really want to know about you?

-PJ

19 posted on 10/15/2007 3:01:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Myrddin

FHWA should cut highway funding to New York State, NYS DMV is siphoning off those funds!!!


20 posted on 10/15/2007 4:31:10 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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