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Romney gets joint drubbing [GOP CHATTERING ABOUT RUDY-MCCAIN TICKET...]
Politico ^ | Oct 15, 2007 08:17 AM EST | Mike Allen

Posted on 10/15/2007 5:56:39 AM PDT by AngryNeighbor

Sensing weakness, Sen. John McCain and Rudy Giuliani have formed an unspoken alliance to try to torpedo Mitt Romney just as many voters are tuning in to the Republican presidential race.

“I'm not going to con you,” McCain said Monday on ABC’s “Good Morning America” when asked about Romney. “It’s important to be honest with people.” The two are teaming up at a time when the heat is escalating in both nominating contests. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) started attacking Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) by name last week after resisting for months in the service of his “new kind of politics.”

On the Republican side, Romney must figure out how to retain his strength in Iowa and New Hampshire now that loyal Republicans are hearing a lot more about him than the soothing messages they were getting from his heavy schedule of television commercials.

McCain has been running a mostly positive race, even refusing at one point to read a text by his aides that included attacks on Clinton. So his joint barrage with Giuliani is enough of a departure that it is even sparking GOP speculation about whether they might form a future ticket.

The two are friends and Giuliani said that if he weren’t running, he’d support the senator from Arizona. If Giuliani were the nominee, though, he’d need someone to help him turn out the Republican base, and McCain wouldn’t be much help there.

Romney aides see they are facing a fight and are pushing back hard. Kevin Madden, Romney’s national press secretary, said: “Other campaigns will flail about and try and attempt to launch angry attacks on us, and we’re prepared for that.”

“Angry” is aimed at one of Giuliani’s big vulnerabilities – his volatile temperament and the mixed view that New Yorkers had of him when he was mayor. The Romney campaign plans to push that idea – at first subtly and perhaps later overtly – in coming days.

Giuliani and his campaign moved ruthlessly to capitalize on Romney’s statement in last week’s debate that a president should “sit down with your attorneys” in deciding whether congressional authorization was needed to strike Iran.

In a post-debate interview, Giuliani made sport of Romney. “That's one of those moments in a debate where you say something and you go like this," Giuliani told ABC’s Jake Tapper, cupping his hand over his mouth — " ‘Wish I can get that one back.’ "

The former Massachusetts governor, trying to regain his footing, went on the offensive Friday in Sparks, Nev., saying: “Conservatives that have heard me time and again recognize that I do speak for the Republican wing of the Republican Party," Romney said. That was an echo of a crowd-pleasing 2004 line by Howard Dean that he represented the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party."

In New Hampshire the next day, McCain uncharacteristically dumped on Romney by packing many of Romney’s vulnerabilities into one brutal paragraph: “When Governor Romney donated money to a Democratic candidate in New Hampshire, I don't think he was speaking for Republicans. When he voted for a Democratic candidate for president, Paul Tsongas, I don't think he was speaking for Republicans. When he refused to endorse the Contract with America, I don't think he was speaking for Republicans.”

Democrats are also getting an increasingly blunt brawl. Obama had been attacking Clinton by inference, making clear references to her record and letting press coverage fill in the name. But in an op-ed on Thursday in the Manchester (N.H.) Union Leader, he connected the dots himself: “I strongly differ with Sen. Hillary Clinton, who was the only Democratic presidential candidate to support this reckless amendment. … Sen. Clinton says she was merely voting for more diplomacy, not war with Iran. If this has a familiar ring, it should. Five years after the original vote for war in Iraq, Sen. Clinton has argued that her vote was not for war — it was for diplomacy, or inspections.”

Obama told CNN he was “moving into a different phase of the campaign,” and followed that up with a speech criticizing Clinton by name. Opponents note a correlation between his disappointing polls and the coarsening of his rhetoric.

An Obama aide says: “I don’t think it’s as big of a deal as folks in Washington think it is. I know their line, ‘Whatever happened to the politics of hope?’ Iowans expect to know what the differences are in this race, and he’s not making personal attacks. What’s he’s doing is in line with what voters expect.”

And it’s now clear that, Republican or Democrat, they can expect a lot more of it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008election; elections; giuliani; mccain; mittromney; romney; stoprudy2008
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To: normy

McCain will not get my vote.


81 posted on 10/15/2007 12:20:38 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

He is no conservative and he will not get my vote! He has too many negatives.


82 posted on 10/15/2007 12:21:41 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Senator Goldwater

Baloney. Rudy is a liberal who is trying to play conservative and it is not working except for a very few.


83 posted on 10/15/2007 12:22:41 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Mean Maryjean

We sure are going to need God’s help if either Rudy or Clinton win.


84 posted on 10/15/2007 12:23:41 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You must know what ‘Guitar Hero’ is. I was shocked to see a couple of brain-dead zombie teens playing the demo machine at Best Buy. I stood at the end of the aisle and pointed and laughed. They never even looked up.

Then I found out the joke is on me. My kids play it at the Ex’s house. They tell me it’s more addictive than a crack-meth-oxycodone slurpy.


85 posted on 10/15/2007 12:32:01 PM PDT by live+let_live
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To: MNJohnnie

Well said.


86 posted on 10/15/2007 12:59:32 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: AngryNeighbor; MNJohnnie
Any person who would willingly permit Hillary Clinton or Obama to have our national defense and security in their hands FOR ANY REASON is a traitor to this nation and that includes anyone on this site.

Those who submit that this would result in conservatives being elected down the line ARE SIMPLY FOOLS. The damage that Clinton and Obama can do - and will do - to this nation is inestimable; and it can never be reversed.

To put our lives, our families’ lives, the lives of the men and women serving in the U. S. Armed Forces - and the continuation of this nation as a free nation under God - in the grasp of Clinton and/or Obama is an abomination scarcely to be matched anywhere.

87 posted on 10/15/2007 1:13:43 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: AngryNeighbor
I'm not going to con you,” McCain said Monday on ABC’s “Good Morning America”

I'm supposed to believe the guy who gave us CFR, almost succeeded with a devastating amnesty bill and hobnobs with Dems?

I think not.

88 posted on 10/15/2007 2:32:56 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Romney Republican)
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To: Senator Goldwater
Rudy is going to be the next president, because he is the only one who can win in 2008.

And your proof is? The Rasmussen polling matchups show all the candidates losing to Hillary, but Rudy and Mitt nearly with the same and least margin of loss.

89 posted on 10/15/2007 2:35:41 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Romney Republican)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Given the DeMoss endorsement, Ann Coulter’s positive words for Mitt and the fact Mitt is leading in most early primary states he is the target for the other presidential candidates.

A backhanded compliment of sorts. It’s Mitt vs. Rudy.


90 posted on 10/15/2007 2:40:34 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Romney Republican)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I would take Romney, over Rooty. If I am going to settle, I would vote for Romney.


91 posted on 10/15/2007 2:43:25 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: kabar

” ‘The RNC and the Republican establishment will have it’s way regardless. We’re going to have a RINO ticket whether we like it or not!’

Don’t bet on it newbie. The RNC and the Rep establishment also thought that they would get an amnesty bill.”

Thanks! I got a big old grin when I read that. You just made my day!


92 posted on 10/15/2007 3:18:25 PM PDT by Califreak (Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary!)
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To: AngryNeighbor

Rommeny must be making them very nervous.


93 posted on 10/15/2007 3:22:28 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: AngryNeighbor
it is even sparking GOP speculation about whether they might form a future ticket.

They sure do want to put Hillary into office don't they? Too many people will NOT vote for a ticket composed of two anti-gun RINOS like those two.

94 posted on 10/15/2007 4:40:33 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Some elected people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them!!!)
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To: AngryNeighbor

What would drive me to a third party quickest is McCain on the Republican ticket.


95 posted on 10/15/2007 4:43:48 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler

Nobody is talking VP slots right now - this is another example of the media shuffling the deck of cards! From all I remember of past elections, the VP slot is usually someone completely off the charts and unnoticed until just before the convention. I don’t see McCain taking the VP slot either - he tends to be a sore loser and will probably slink off somewhere after he loses the primary, unless his money runs out and he has to bow out earlier. I think if Rudy gets the nod, he’ll pick someone that will bring in the one base that he’s going to need (perhaps even a CHristian the Dobson could support)...


96 posted on 10/15/2007 4:48:56 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: princess leah

anyone / McCain forget it

Rudy / McCain? Not on your life


97 posted on 10/15/2007 4:51:25 PM PDT by McCloud-Strife (John McCain first, the rest of the "gang of 14" next)
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To: Senator Goldwater
No its not.

Rudy is going to be the next president, because he is the only one who can win in 2008.

Anyone who says otherwise is in the tank for Hillary.

That's pure baloney. Fred will destroy Rudy! Social conservatives aka: "the religious right" will NEVER vote for Rudy. He's about as far away from Christian values as anyone running for President. They're NOT going to vote for him. Period. End of story!

98 posted on 10/15/2007 4:52:16 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Some elected people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them!!!)
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To: AngryNeighbor

First, Politico is not a conservative rag. Secondly, the left is trying to influence the vote because they are running scared. And third, there is no way in Hell I am voting for Julie Annie or McCain.

If we get Hillary, then we stand and fight for our country. Maybe it will galvanize the right finally to do something besides bit*#.

Just my opinion. Flame away.


99 posted on 10/15/2007 5:02:29 PM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: AngryNeighbor

Then they are giving the DNC a win.......dang.


100 posted on 10/15/2007 5:10:09 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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