My Opinion on Ann Coulter's Opinion of the Jews

American Thinker ^ | October 13, 2007 | Kyle-Anne Shiver

[neverdem]

I'm no more an expert theologian than Ann Coulter is, but I have been a Christian nearly all of my life and have logged in more than 40 years of personal and formal Bible study.  So, even though I'm not a lawyer or a best-selling author, I'm compelled to put in my "two cents" on Ann's recent comments about converting all the Jews, so they will be "perfected" like we Christians are.  [Please don't anyone throw a Bible at me until I have stated my opinion.] 

I remember being positively dumfounded -- exactly the way I am at Ann's declaration -- when I was watching a Phil Donahue show in the early 80's and heard with my own ears as Reverend Jerry Falwell made a similar proclamation on network television.  Phil asked Jerry whether he believed all Jews who refused to convert to Christianity were going to hell.  Without so much as the blink of an eye, or a moment to consider, the Reverend boldly proclaimed that "Yes!" indeed the Jews are bound for hell.  Phil Donahue was as shocked by the statement as I was, but he had neither the knowledge of Scripture nor the Christian experience to debate him, and so the statement just stood there --  un-debunked.  A pity.

But along comes Ann Coulter, another famous Christian, who once again throws down the same gauntlet.  I'm picking it up now, and I will stake my own salvation and eventual residence in heaven with the Jesus I love with all my heart and soul, on this:

All Jews are no more going to hell than all people who believe they are Christians are going to heaven

I am well aware of the New Testament verses where Jesus declares Himself the one and only Way to the Father.  Jesus, as the only begotten Son of God the Father, loved human beings so passionately that He was willing for a time to forsake the glories of heaven, to come down here, live as one of us, suffer humiliation for no cause, and give Himself up without a fight to an anguished death to provide a "roadmap" to His Father's House.  I wholeheartedly believe this.

Jesus' birth, life, ministry, Passion, and death provides expatiation of the Sin of the world -- past, present, and future.  The price on humanity's collective head for turning against God has been paid in full.  

But it's not a Get-out-of-jail-free card for every individual; it serves whatever purpose God ultimately decides Himself.  God and God alone will decide.  Not me, not Ann Coulter and not Jerry Falwell.  If the Pope gets to decide, then I'm probably in and Ann and Jerry might be out.  But I'm not touching the authority of the Pope; I'm Catholic.

When it comes to personal salvation, I would like to remind every Christian of this verse that seems to get far less attention than it rightly deserves.  This is Jesus speaking to his disciples:

Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.  On that day many will say to me , "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?"  Then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers."

Matthew 7:21 (New American Bible)

On the matter of salvation and judgment of the individual soul, Jesus is clear.  Talking a good line means little; it's doing that gets rewarded.

Jesus repeats this thinking for us human dullards here:

For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother, sister and mother.

Matthew 12:50  (also, Mark 3:35 and Luke 8:21)

I know of one man -- a Jew -- who is most definitely in heaven right this very minute.  His name was Professor Liviu Librescu.  He was the Jewish hero of the Virginia Tech massacre.  He was the only hero of that hideous day.  The supreme irony is that the day he became the Angel of Deliverance for more than a dozen American youth -- April 16, 2007 -- he was also quietly observing Holocaust Remembrance Day. 

Professor Librescu, an Israeli citizen, had been living and working at Virginia Tech for 20 years on the day that he blocked his classroom door, used his own 76-year-old body as a shield to protect his students, and heroically bade them to jump out the windows to safety -- even as his own body was riddled with the killer's bullets.  Professor Librescu, in that solitary act, demonstrated his abiding faith and love for God and neighbor.  As Jesus said, "There is no greater love than when a man lays down his life for his friends." (John 15:13)  I know of no one personally who has done a greater act of "Christian" charity than this one.      

Now I have an alternate opinion on Judaism and the Jewish people, something I would like Ann to mull over a bit. 

Hasn't it occurred to anyone other than myself that God has a very vested interest in maintaining faithful Jews as a people set apart by Him, for Himself, until the very end of time?  Whether it was a plan from the very beginning, who knows?  But we do know that God is constantly having to call up new recruits and adopt new battle plans to work out His divine will for a human race that uses its free will to run things amuck again and again -- and again. 

And let's face this fact, shall we.  Any attack on the Jews is a personal attack against God.  They are His people; He set them apart for His reasons.  God will never, ever abandon His people.  Period.  If only for the matter of honor.  God's own honor rides on the Jews and how the world treats them.  If anyone of any generation is most certainly dooming himself to eternal hell, it is the anti-Semite, for to hate the Jews, one must first hate God.

Which brings us to the current world struggle.  Anyone who proclaims to be a person of God, must surely recognize the religious dimension of our War against Islamo-Fascism.  It may not be the last one of its kind, but the stakes certainly do seem to be escalating. 

The Jews refused to recognize Mohammed as a prophet in the 7^th Century, and therefore adamantly refused to convert and follow him.  This is the precise reason that Mohammed declared them all to be pigs and monkeys, and why he and his followers have waged war on the Jews most of all, and likely will never be willing to live in co-existing peace with them. 

This isn't a new war for Israel.  The Israelis have been tasting the bitter fruit of Islamo-Fascism for going on 60 years now.  While we Americans were still jitter-bugging and baby-booming, Israel was seeing her children -- God's own beloved -- being blown into bits by homemade bombs at their birthday parties.  We were blinded to the gruesome reality of the false prophet's "fruit" until 9/11, but the Israelis have had front-row seats, and to this very day have spilled more of their innocent blood on the altar of our God in heaven than could ever hope to be avenged.

So, Ann, please read a little more Scripture.  Stop trying to convert Jews, and aim all of your arrows at God's enemies - not at his Chosen People.

[muawiyah]

"Too flip" ~ the stone the builders rejected ~ all makes sense now.

"Let the children come to me"

etc. ~ the majesty of the language does nothing to elevate the sanctity of the Word.

Jesus prescience in these matters is truly astounding.

[syriacus]

Let's get one thing straight....

Anne said, "So we think Jews go to heaven."

[neverdem]

Are you Catholic.

I was an altar boy.

Do you think he got the Catholic view of redemption right?

I'm no theologian. The last classes on religion I had were in 1969. I just thought it was an interesting commentary.

[neverdem]

See comment 43.

[neverdem]

Thanks for the link.

[syriacus]

Shortcut is way too flip to refer to a gift of a love that passes beyond human understanding.

I did not remember her exact words, when I said "shortcut" (and I was in a rush to get ready to drive my son to work - he works 11 til 7:30)

Anyway, I'm back. I found the transcript, but can't seem to "cut and paste" it, so please refer to the link for her actual words.

Here are Anne's words about being a Christian

"Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track."[snip]

Yes. that is what Christianity is. We believe the Old testament, but ours is more like Federal express.

You [I think she meant Jews] have to obey laws. We [I think she meant Christians] know we're all sinners--

BTW, Deutsch was only pretending to give Anne a chance to explain herself.

He kept cutting her off when she tried to explain.

Good religious discussions can rarely take place when the speaker is interrupted.

[CaptainK]

Ann didn’t make that statement. She said Jews could go to heaven.

It’s great when people make commentary on something they obviously did not watch.

[oldfart]

Sorry, but I really don’t care what Anne thinks. She’s a pretty good writer and manages to get under the collective skin of liberals, a trick which I enjoy, but her opinion is no better or worse than mine or yours or... David Duke!
Does anybody understand what is meant by a “tempest in a teapot?”

[neverdem]

See comment 43.

[big'ol_freeper]

Exactly. And if you had read you would know I was not commenting on Ann. I was commenting on Falwell.

[Just mythoughts]

The author goes on and on about others that make claims about who is or is not going to heaven. God says that allllllllll souls return to Him. Then the author proclaims that only God’s knows then proceeds to make a clain of her own.

Problem is that Ann never said anything about anybody going anyplace....... This author knows less about what the Bible says than she claims to know the ignorance of others.

[D-fendr]

Well, there's one correct statement anyway:

I'm no more an expert theologian than..

Author's theology isn't Catholic, isn't Reformed, isn't much of anything but a rant.

[TheBattman]

AMEN!

[neverdem]

Thanks for the link, although I’m surprised you got that source. I scanned the transcript. It looks like the one I saw Fox.

[syriacus]

I am sad that so many FReepers agree with Ann.

I think Anne meant it was easier to be a Christian than a Jew; that it's easier to accept and depend on Christ's redemption of us, than it is to depend on our own works for our salvation.

Christ said, "My yoke is sweet and my burden, light."

I wish Deutsch would have let her talk, instead of cutting her off all the time.

[FastCoyote]

“Talking a good line means little; it’s doing that gets rewarded.”

I guess all that stuff about the thief on the cross being saved is false then. [And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise”]. Who’d a thunk?

[syriacus]

Thanks for starting this thread. It’s given me much food for thought.

[Dallas]

Hmmm...where to begin.

First, put away all thoughts and ideas about replacement theology (church replacing Israel, etc), as well the notion that (the church is Spiritual Israel). That's pretty much what you're thinking Ann is saying in her book, and I have no intentions of defending her position.

Let's agree that there is only one body of Christ. If we can't establish that, then we're just gonna spin our wheels. We also have to agree that Paul is the real deal, and spoke nothing but the truth.

Gal 3:16 "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ." Paul says in this verse that all the goodies (justification by faith, promises, inheritance) comes solely thru Christ, and not via the nation of Israel.

Gal 3:17 "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect." Here Paul is saying that the promises made to Abraham and his Seed were made before there ever was a nation of Israel.

Abraham wasn't a Jew or a Hebrew, rather he was a Gentile (for lack of a better term) when God made His covenant with him.

Gal 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

Of course; God has made provisions for the nation of Israel. But, at this time they have no Temple, no Priesthood, thus no sacrifice for their sins. They have to get into the body of Christ just like non-Jews have to. Sadly, not all Jews are saved, and not all those who profess to be Christians are either. The bible is specific about that.

If you want to research this further, there is nothing better than "The Mystery of Israel and the Church" written by a Jewish Christian named Art Katz.

[sasportas]

Of all things I have ever read on FR, you, sir, who posted this featured article, take the cake. This is the most antichrist and satanic thing I have ever read on FR. By fair words and simple speech you deceive the hearts of the simple.

Your subtility is only exceeded by that of the devil himself in the garden when he said “Hath God said.”

The devil had to first do something with what God said, his word. Not to eat of the certain tree was clear enough, so here comes the devil to distort what he said...and destroy Eve’s faith in what God did say.

Now understand, neverdem,this is precisely what you have done. “Hath God said” that Jesus died for the sins of the entire world - with no exceptions? Absolutely yes. No one in their right mind after reading the New Testament should doubt that is precisely what “God said.”

Yet this is what you have done. You, like the serpent in the garden, are making an attempt to distort the clear word of God.

It won’t work this time, too many of us now, after observing the 6000 year track record of the devil, are wise to his ways. Give it up, neverdem, except for the most naive and Biblically illiterate among us, your broadside attack on the word of God will never fly.

[neverdem]

Thanks for the link.