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Off the Hook: University Chief Poshard Can Stay but Must Correct '84 Paper
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 10/12/07 | Dave Newbart

Posted on 10/12/2007 11:15:43 AM PDT by Froufrou

Southern Illinois University President Glenn Poshard has homework to do.

A committee of faculty leaders at SIU announced Thursday that the university's top official committed "inadvertent plagiarism'' in his doctoral dissertation, which he wrote as a student at SIU in 1984. The paper therefore needs to be corrected, but he will remain the university's top official and face no further repercussions.

The committee's recommendations were approved in a closed meeting Thursday of the university's board of trustees.

Poshard said he took "full responsibility'' for the mistakes and cried at one point during a news conference in which he read an apology to the university community.

The former Democratic gubernatorial nominee later said he feels "a sense of relief this is finally coming to a close. It has been difficult for my family and me. . . . This has been a blow to our name and our family, but more importantly to the university. That's what concerns me.''

That also concerns some of Poshard's critics, who said they were outraged by the decision.

"SIU has been deeply disgraced,'' said Robert Ware, a philosophy professor at the Edwardsville campus who along with 38 other faculty members supported a petition calling for an outside, independent review of the charges. "Damage was done to SIU today that will hurt us for years.''

University leaders repeatedly defended their decision not to refer the case to an outside panel, saying they had enough expertise on the committee.

The committee's report comes after allegations that Poshard plagiarized his dissertation on gifted children's education.

A committee of seven faculty leaders was appointed by the Carbondale chancellor -- who also works under Poshard -- and they met eight times over the past three weeks. They found nearly 40 instances of citation errors or other problems in the paper.

The committee found no specific style was required by the SIU Department of Higher Education, where he studied at the time. Instead, Poshard used an "informal style'' used by other graduate students then.

But there also were "many instances in the dissertation where the words of others are present in a continuous flow with student Poshard's own words, so that readers cannot distinguish between those sources,'' the report states. The instances of unquoted and uncited texts are "pervasive'' and "significant,'' it said.

In an interview with the committee, Poshard said he couldn't recall "hearing instruction on the meaning of plagiarism'' but simply thought it was intentionally stealing others' work. The committee found there was no definition of plagiarism in the graduate student handbook at the time.

Ware questioned relying on Poshard's word in this case, considering students Ware has caught plagiarizing almost always claim they did so inadvertently. Ware now wonders if he can hold those students to a higher standard than the president. If not, "We have told the entire country that we have no standards or abysmally low standards at SIU,'' he said.

But Poshard said it's simply a matter of being a more "humane university'' that seeks to be fair.

"We can't be a university that only decides things on the basis of our head,'' he said. "We also have a heart.''


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Proof once again that "I'm sorry" is 'the' Liberal catch-all phrase of choice!
1 posted on 10/12/2007 11:15:45 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
The former Democratic gubernatorial nominee...

That explains it all..............

2 posted on 10/12/2007 11:17:15 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Froufrou

Give him a break. After all, he cried.


3 posted on 10/12/2007 11:22:22 AM PDT by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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To: Froufrou
Didn’t any if his committe members read it?
4 posted on 10/12/2007 11:22:52 AM PDT by colinhester
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To: colinhester

if=of


5 posted on 10/12/2007 11:23:31 AM PDT by colinhester
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To: Froufrou

I wonder what would happen if a certain unspecified female presidential candidate’s thesis was run through turnitn.com. I wonder further how current writing by powerful MSM “reporters” would similarly fare.


6 posted on 10/12/2007 11:26:00 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Froufrou

“In an interview with the committee, Poshard said he couldn’t recall “hearing instruction on the meaning of plagiarism’’ but simply thought it was intentionally stealing others’ work. The committee found there was no definition of plagiarism in the graduate student handbook at the time.”

The janitor’s wife never buys brooms or mops, either.


7 posted on 10/12/2007 11:29:17 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Kuksool; BlackElk; darkangel82; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza

Glenn Poshard in some hot water.


8 posted on 10/12/2007 11:30:56 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Blennos
"Give him a break. After all, he cried."

Well, yes, he did cry and should get due credit for that. He also tipped his hat to the importance of feeeee-lings. So he gets another point.

But did he bite his lower lip? Did he say anything at all about the chil-run? Nope. That's why he's a disgrace to any liberal university and should go.

9 posted on 10/12/2007 11:31:30 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Old Professer
"The janitor’s wife never buys brooms or mops, either."

Uh, would you mind defining "mop"? I can't find it's definition in my FR handbook. Thanks!

10 posted on 10/12/2007 11:34:35 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Froufrou

So, a faculty memeber feels that his institution is “...deeply disgraced...”

Sorry, professor. If you’re part of a liberal arts faculty, you are discraced by definition. Your courses are largely jokes and students receiving your “degrees” are suckers who paid good money for bad indoctrination. Yup, I know that this all-inclusive statement is not correct. However, it appears that statistically, it is largely correct. Prof, suck it up and get a real degree in physics, chemistry, engineering, math...you know - those courses that actually require an IQ to pass. Then you can impart actual knowledge to humanity.


11 posted on 10/12/2007 11:34:57 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Froufrou

If the concept and rules of plagiarism is alien to a man by the time he’s in post-grad schooling... I’d think the real investigation should be in how he got into the program.

Did he earn his initial degree or did he copy off others then too?


12 posted on 10/12/2007 11:35:25 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Froufrou

BS... how can this university remotely claim authority to chastise and punish and expell students for plagerism when it let its own President off the hook for it?

Liberalism means no integrity and no respect. Alumni should shut off all funding to this university until this jackass is gone.

Obviously the trustees are not going to do anything.


13 posted on 10/12/2007 11:38:54 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Blennos; Red Badger; colinhester; Old_Professor

~snorrfle~

I don’t care if he sobbed buckets, I have no patience for anyone who can’t keep their ‘op cits’ and ‘ibids’ straight!
I mean really, how much effort does it take?

Just a minute, I’m looking up ‘op cit’...

;o) But yeah, I’d check his other degrees, too.


14 posted on 10/12/2007 11:40:36 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Red Badger

I voted for Poshard...cause I knew what George Ryan was.


15 posted on 10/12/2007 11:40:50 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Grimmy

Good point. The academic rigor of his instructors and department advisors might also be a fruitful avenue of inquiry. I’m betting it would reveal a bunch of third-string bozos handing out degrees like crackerjack prizes.


16 posted on 10/12/2007 11:44:08 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Old Professer

Whether plagiarism was defined in the student’s guide or not is irrelevant. The dictionary is still a useful tool when one is unsure of a word’s definition/meaning.


17 posted on 10/12/2007 11:45:00 AM PDT by Don W (I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.)
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To: Blennos

“Give him a break. After all, he cried.”
He and George Voinobitch should get together!


18 posted on 10/12/2007 11:45:56 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Froufrou

“Inadvertant plagiarism” is akin to “smoking without inhaling”, or being an “unindicted co-conspirator”.

There is simply an air about them suggesting a less than entire probity. One would think the University would favor someone more ... dignified.


19 posted on 10/12/2007 11:55:23 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: headsonpikes
You gotta give this committee credit for at least one thing -- they are world class weasel-worders. "Inadvertent plagiarism" ranks rights up there with "accidental armed robbery." It's especially hilarious since the committee found at least 40 instances of these "irregularities." Who accidentally steals another's wording and ideas 40 times in the same paper?
20 posted on 10/12/2007 12:19:19 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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