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Question for grown-ups: Who deserves government-subsidized health insurance?
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Posted on 10/12/2007 10:36:22 AM PDT by WBL 1952

I received an unsolicited e-mail this week from a neighbor of the Frost family, the family held up by Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and the entitlement expansionist Democrats. He wrote:

They’re good people. Terribly misguided, pathetically leftist buffoons, but still good people. It was a terrible accident and Bonnie is quite beat up with guilt over the events. Lots of neighbors pitched in to cook meals and help out… Bonnie works half time doing freelance editorial work and Halsey, an incredibly disorganized lovable goofball, just can’t seem to hold down a proper job or, when he’s tried, to run a proper company. He’s a millwork carpenter and does great work installing custom interior and exterior trimwork and cabinetry. He should be making great money but can’t get out of his way…

…Still, we make choices, right? They have three vehicles - a nice new volvo SUV, a Suburban, and his F250 Ford Pickup work truck, a nice house, and all four kids go to private school. Not sure where the money comes from, but they don’t make all that much. Should they be the poster child for S-CHIP? Heck no….

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To: cgbg

If a majority of our country wanted to take care of the disabled, then that’s what we should do.

I wouldn’t fight for it if I was the only one because it would be a losing battle.

However, I stand up for the disabled.

My daughter is disabled, and she is lucky to have parents that have been able to provide for her.

I really feel for the kids and disabled adults who don’t have family to help them.

As a community, I think we should help those in need.

I have little sympathy for illegals or adults who have a healthy body and brain. I don’t think they should get healthcare.


41 posted on 10/12/2007 4:37:55 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: donna

I think that you are wrong about that. Lots of autistic kids were just locked away in institutions in the past.

We’ve made great strides in the way disabled people are treated in this country where instead of being locked away they are educated and become contributing members of our society.


42 posted on 10/12/2007 4:41:12 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: FReepapalooza

What I think is amazing is how an illegal alien can get more help than a disabled legal citizen of our country gets.

My daughter is disabled. We currently get zero help from the government for her. She qualifies for free and appropriate education, but the public schools failed her.

We pay for private school with a special reading program, speech therapy, occupational therapy, and every other therapy she gets. We do not get any tax breaks for this.

We pay tons of taxes, and we don’t have enough money to pay for all of my daughter’s therapies. Insurance will only pay for 24 speech, physical, and occupational therapy sessions per year. That’s just 1 session every other week. My daughter goes to speech twice a week (and needs more).

Basically, if you pay taxes it means you make enough money to not qualify for any programs for a special needs kid.

I’m not asking for my daughter to be taken care of. However, I would prefer that my tax dollars go to take care of other disabled legal citizens and not to illegal aliens or abled bodied men/women.


43 posted on 10/12/2007 4:47:21 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

Wrong about what?

What I said is true.


44 posted on 10/12/2007 6:29:01 PM PDT by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: cgbg

true
My former BIL hides a lot of his income using the barter system. I wish he would get busted, but I know he never will.


45 posted on 10/12/2007 7:15:07 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights)
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To: WBL 1952

Considering how government-subsidized health insurance often treats its “beneficiaries”...I’m tempted to say nobody.


46 posted on 10/12/2007 7:16:38 PM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody was going to say it...why not me?)
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To: WBL 1952

i live in apartments and i’ve seen people on medical

go to the doctor 2x week.

one neighbor bragged that it was her 23rd rx of the month (it was the third week).

i don’t see how you could run a national, single-payer system with people who scam the system.


47 posted on 10/12/2007 7:32:55 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: donna

That needs were met. I don’t think disabled people’s needs were met. I think a lot of disabled people were institutionalized in the past.

We’ve moved forward from those times.


48 posted on 10/12/2007 10:23:04 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

You think so but it’s not true. Families took care of their own elderly and disabled because mothers worked at home.

It was a good thing - good for the family.


49 posted on 10/12/2007 11:35:28 PM PDT by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: luckystarmom

“However, I would prefer that my tax dollars go to take care of other disabled legal citizens and not to illegal aliens or abled bodied men/women.”

That is what Medicaid and other programs WERE supposed to be for.

Notice I said “WERE”. God bless you and your daughter. Believe me, I know exactly what you are going through and know exactly what you’re talking about. Unless you sell your soul and your daughter’s soul to the government, you are tough out of luck.


50 posted on 10/13/2007 7:36:18 AM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: donna

If you do a google search on this

“+history +disabled +institutions”

You will find that most disabled people were not taken care of by their families.

Yes, many women worked at home in the past, but you could say the same for men. Women did work, but they had more work to do. Look how easy it is to do laundry today compared to a hundred years ago.

I am very aware of all of this because my daughter has a brain injury. I’ve researched treatment in the past, and treatment now.

My daughter could not talk. In the past, she would have just been shoved aside. In Hitler’s Germany, she would have been killed or experimented on.

In this day and time, she has been rehabilitated, and she actually talks. She is in the regular classroom, and she is extremely gifted at math.

Hopefully, she will continue to do well in school.

(She just had a horrible grand mal seizure last week. The first seizure she has had in over 10 years. We are just hoping that she doesn’t have a seizure disorder that could really negatively affect her quality of life. )

Autistic kids used to be just institutionalized, but now they get therapy and many kids grow up to be very functional. (Sometimes you wouldn’t know they were disabled because they have been rehabilitated so much.)


51 posted on 10/13/2007 12:38:41 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: FReepapalooza

We were in the public school system for so long, and it did feel like we were selling our soul to the govt.

I’m just glad we had the money to take her out of public school.


52 posted on 10/13/2007 12:41:01 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: MediaMole
They should be the poster children for Pres. Bush’s veto. If they qualified, why is there any need to expand the program?

Exactly.

The Democrats gussied up a skunk of a program and hoped to sell it as the SCHIP program which helped Graeme Frost.

If Democrats really want to help kids LIKE Graeme Frost
they should pass a bill LIKE the one that helped Graeme Frost.

53 posted on 10/13/2007 1:18:02 PM PDT by syriacus (If Dems want to help kids LIKE Graeme Frost, they should pass a bill LIKE the one that helped him.)
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To: luckystarmom

Big government moves to destroy family in America:

1950-1959
Summary: Government has become the primary payor for nursing home care, Financing is made available for nursing home construction, There is a “boom” in for-profit nursing home construction, The quality of nursing home care becomes a national concern.

Home Care Drops in Popularity

http://elderweb.com/home/book/export/html/2846


54 posted on 10/13/2007 3:30:12 PM PDT by donna (Chickens grown in the USA; then processed in CHINA; then sold in the USA. Huh?)
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