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Godspeed to the Bishop!!
As a graduate of a Jesuit school (Loyola Collage in Maryland, the action of Holy Cross makes me sick. I applaud Bishop McManus.
Nice try McFarland in trying to twist your mission into one of intellect and dialogue. What a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Prayers for Bishop McManus.
I hope that Holy Cross does the right thing. It’s ashame that they need to be told right from wrong.
You’ve not truly experienced the depths of Jesuit dissembling until you’ve heard one explain, with a straight face, that he took a vow of celibacy, but not chastity.
So, if they lose their name, how about “College of The D&X”?
I quit donating to my Catholic College Alma Mater back in 68 when they gave in to the commies and banned ROTC
BTTT
Couple questions....
Do you think NARAL and the others approached Holy Cross and asked them to use the facility?
Highly unlikely that they would have the audacity to do that... Which leads one to this conclusion... why would this guy go out and solicit such a group onto their campus? There is the question that needs to be answered.
When people do seemingly strange things that seem totally out of context generally they have long ago compromised their reality and values for so long that a decision such as this seems within their scope of reason. Because they have been surrounded my yes men their perspective gets askew.
It is not until their decisions travel outside their context do they come into the full light of reason and reveal the motivations of the heart.
Liberalism is a mental sickness. What ever happened to the mandatum?
In other words: Easy on the kudos until you see him actually DO something! Because the previous track record was anything but evidence of a SPINE!
Back then, the Jesuits at BC were DEFENDING him!
Here is what FATHER McManus was teaching way back before the mitre was bestowed:
Article in the NYTimes:
January 12, 1988
Bishop Sees No Moral Issue If Feeding Ends in Coma Case By PETER STEINFELS
The Roman Catholic Bishop of Providence, R.I., Louis E. Gelineau, said yesterday that a diocesan official's opinion approving the removal of a feeding tube from a comatose patient ''does not contradict Catholic moral theology.''
The opinion was written at Bishop Gelineau's request by the Rev. Robert J. McManus, vicar of education, who is a member of the diocesan medical ethics commission.
It has been criticized as ''utterly and unquestionably wrong'' by another Catholic theologian, the Rev. Robert Barry, who teaches religious studies at the University of Illinois. A diocesan press officer said abortion foes in the Providence area had expressed concern that Father McManus's view weakened the church's teaching on the protection of life.
A Kind of Precedent
Although Father McManus's opinion in the case of Marcia Gray, a 48-year-old Catholic who has been in a coma since January 1986, is not unprecedented among moral theologians, it is apparently the first time such a viewpoint has been expressed by someone acting in a diocesan capacity.
A growing number of state courts have ruled that such chemical feeding is a means of artificial life support like mechanical respirators, which can be removed.
Bishop Gelineau, in Providence, had asked Father McManus to study the case after Mrs. Gray's husband, H. Glenn Gray, who is seeking to remove a tube supplying food and water to his wife, sought church advice, The Bishop emphasized yesterday that Father McManus's opinion ''in no way supports or condones the practice of euthanasia.''
Mr. Gray, who is a University of Rhode Island professor, has sued the Rhode Island Department of Mental Health, Retardation and Hospitals, which administers the hospital where Mrs. Gray is a patient, to have the feeding tube removed. The case is scheduled to be heard this month by the Federal District Court in Providence.
According to Bishop Gelineau, the church has made no ''definitive statement regarding the need to provide nutrition and hydration to the permanently unconscious person.''
At a news conference, Bishop Gelineau acknowledged that his position supporting Father McManus might differ from the standpoint of other bishops. But Dr. James J. Walter, associate professor of theology at Loyola University, in Chicago, said that Father McManus's opinion appeared to be one held by a ''growing majority'' of Catholic moral theologians. 'Ordinary' vs. 'Extraordinary'
According to Dr. Walter as well as Dr. Lisa Sowle Cahill, professor of theology at Boston College, the terms Father McManus used to examine the issue were traditional ones. Most Catholic theologians ask whether artifically provided nutrition and hydration constitute ''extraordinary'' medical treatment. Such treatment may be suspended if seen as burdensome. On the other hand, ''ordinary'' medical treatment cannot be morally withdrawn.
Dr. Cahill noted that theological foes of removing feeding tubes for the permanently unconscious stress the ''ordinary'' and basic character of food and drink. ''But food and drink is no more basic than air,'' said Dr. Cahill, noting that Catholic theologians have agreed that artificial respirators qualify as ''extraordinary'' treatment and can sometimes be disconnected.
The differences among theologians, Dr. Walter said, depend on whether they look at the medical treatment alone or in relation to the benefit it may give a particular patient. In the case of Mrs. Gray, Father McManus had concluded that the measures ''supplying nutrition and hydration artificially offer no reasonable hope of benefit'' and were therefore ''disproportionate and unduly burdensome.''
He should force them to change their name to Unholy Sickle. More more appropriate for what that particular institution is churning out these days.
Proof that the names are reversible. It is actually Governor Deval Patrick. He can't be too pro-abortion, as he and his wife, according to the bio on the linked page, have two daughters, who, upon reflection, I am sure, are glad not to have been subject to same.