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Are you convinced that Turkey was the sole aggressor here? I wish I could be as convinced of that. I am not.

It has been 90 years since this event took place. Why is it imperative that we chose this time of all times, to insult an ally in this manner?

We are three or four generations beyond the 1915-1917 events. If it wasn’t imperative that we condemn Turkey’s actions before his, why now?

This issue is a sore subject with me. My town is about 60% Armenian now. And by God, they want this to be the old country. They do not accept that it is the United States. Every year the local contingent makes new demands that we observe their historical events. Balderdash!

Why is it that the U.S. flag must be at half mast, and city offices in my town have to close due to events that took place half-way around the world nearly 100 years ago?

If I were in Congress, I'd avoid addressing this issue.

You mean the feckless piece of dog feces of an ally that pulled that bullcrap over the 4th ID transiting to northern Iraq and helped set up Falujah as a hard point?

When push came to shove, they went islamist. Screw em till they’re drowning in their own blood and their homes are ashen heaps.

Why the idiots in our legislator picked now... you’re probably right, but I have less charity in my heart for the domestic allies of our enemy than I do for the foreign, so its all equal in the end.

Just in case you were curious. None of the above is aimed at you for your opinion, just venting my views.

It is not a matter of time. Nazism does not change in its ideology by time, nor Islamofascism. This is a matter of tradition and ideology dead or alive. The difference between Germany and Turkey is regret of their sin, and the sin of their ancestory. There is no such improvement without admiting the mistakes done. Nazi regime has never revived in Germany. They admitted their mistakes, they admitted it as their own sins. This is what is important for mistakes not to be repeated. Turkey did not just deny its mistake, but kept on holding its imperialism even afterward as seen in Cyprus. They have repeated their own barbaric manners. Their tradition of Islmofascism is still alive today. Even worse, books promoting Nazism in Turkey has been popular these days.

Turkey is not an ally. It will never be forgotten that Turkey has betrayed US for denying access to Iraq during Iraq War. They have not just denied access, but attepted to invade northern portion in the first few weeks of the Iraq War. It is uncertain how many of our troops have died as the result of this obstacle. According to Turkey’s official site, more than 90 percent of Turks that responded to the poll opposed the war. It was an action against the spread of democracy, and sympathy for Islam.

Once again, this is not a matter of time, but tradition and ideology. Germany continues to regret the act of Nazism since it is not a matter rather they have done it or not, but a matter of the shame of their ethnicity and nationality, and their responisibility to continue to regret Nazism throughout generations.

Nazism is still Nazism after 50 years. Genocide is still genocide after 50 years. It will remain on history books, and it is the responsibility of both Germans and Turks to continously regret generations after generations that they no longer promote genocide.

If I were in Congress, I'd avoid addressing this issue.

Why not say the same to the holocaust? Are you going to avoid to slam the holocaust against the Jews because of such political reason? Are you trying to compromise human rights for political merits? We don't need no double standard!

Rather genocide against Jews, rather genocide against Armenians, it is an act of evil and against human rights. As an entity trying to promote democracy and human rights throughout the world, we should never keep a blind eye on such violation against human rights. If there is such double standard, our stance would be challenged by the world. It is the responisibity of the people to carry on their sins, even generations after generations so no mistakes would be repeated.

We are three or four generations beyond the 1915-1917 events. If it wasn’t imperative that we condemn Turkey’s actions before his, why now?

I really think this is more a message of "don't think about going after the Kurds in Iraq".

People are coming up with all kinds of angles - that they are trying to hurt Bush or stop the war in Iraq (which is ridiculous, since Turkey has already hurt us several times in Iraq, as others in this thread pointed out, and not just the 4th ID fiasco either), but I find the timing of this suspect.

Sure, you'll never get anybody in Congress to admit to it, but the fact that it comes just as Turkey is ramping up to go into Northern Iraq after some Kurds seems a might suspicious if you ask me.

In fact, Turkey getting angry and cutting off our air and land routes would hurt us much less than if Turkey invades northern Iraq. Everybody (including Bush) who thinks that this is going to hurt the war in Iraq needs to stop and think about the fact that Turkey invading Iraq will do us much more harm than if Turkey cut off our land and air routes.

One hundred years have passed...so to bring this up now...so what? If Turkey says its sorry...so what.

But lets settle the picture correctly here. The land of Turkey, was run by the Ottoman empire up until the early 1920s...by the Sultan. When you examine these periods of cleansing...which would run two to three years and then simmer....from the mid 1890s until around 1923...it was not the Sultan’s folks who started alot of this unrest. I would call them “young bulls” with an agenda...which was very fascist in nature...and very much anti-Sultan.

The cleansing? Oh...the young bulls would go through a region and start unrest...blaming the Armenians for creating the situation. Property would be taken. Assets in the bank would be taken...and the ones who stood up to challenge this...shot dead. So they slowly pushed the Armenians out of very neutral areas where they were part of the general neighborhood. They created concentration camps later...during WWI and work gangs. Starting to sound familiar? Maybe related to some Hitler dude in Germany? Yep...it is a carbon-copy.

But read on....the German military was there in 1915...and witnessed various acts...sending letters back to Berlin and demanding that the Kaiser bring this up and HALT the genocide going on. This is documented. The German government did nothing because they were involved in a war. The British and Americans....saw and documented vast acts....and attempted after 1919 to bring these up in a world court type setup. Nothing occurred. The guilty parties escaped any punishment.

The Sultan was eventually kicked out, and the new “fascist” government of Turkey, with Mr. Atatürk then took over...with a republic type “look”. Turks will talk boldly of their new government and how things got modern after the Sultan was kicked out. But make no mistake...this was a fascist-state and got results by extreme action.

So did Hitler learn from the Turks? Yes, without any doubt. We need historians to go through the Munich press and find the connection of Hitler and the methods he used in the 1930s/1940s with the Jews...because he learned every trick...from the Turks. He knew they would work....especially with his brown-shirts and a fascist-type environment that he created.

Modern Turkey....built itself on this entire concept. The modern enemy? The Kurds. Thinking about stopping the Turks...oh...don’t even joke about it. The US has this funny relationship that it can’t envision in any other fashion. The Turks are the friends of the US...even if they are modern-day fascists, and even if they would kill 50,000 Kurds tomorrow if given the chance.

So does anything matter 100 years later? Nope...really not. But its funny how you can lay the template of the young bulls of Turkey over Hitler and see the vast connection to the genocide of the Jews. Should that change our minds and make us care in 2007...over a 100-year event? It all depends on how you view your future in the world, and that of the Kurds. Have you learned anything about history yet? Or....the real question...what is the obvious thing that you should have picked up from years and years of observing history?

It has been 90 years since this event took place. Why is it imperative that we chose this time of all times, to insult an ally in this manner?

They insult us and the rest of the Western world by not acknowledging it. Turkish genocide denial is disgusting. Stating the truth that millions were killed in a genocidal bloodbath is an insult only to those who deny the truth. And honestly, I could care less about genocide deniers. If it costs us more money to move our troops and material by sea, then so be it. I have no interest in coddling genocide deniers.

This is just more proof that Turkey really isn't interested in being a Western country. Sarkozy is right in saying that they don't deserve to be in the European Union.

If I were in Congress, I'd avoid addressing this issue.

So would I. It's none of our business, number one. What happened almost 100 years ago under a totally different regime is not something that the United States Congress should be concerned with.

Once we get started condemning modern countries for barbarisms committed in the past that weren't adequately confessed to, anything goes. Hardly a nation in the world is innocent of civilian slaughter, either by way of civil war or simple tyranny. Certainly, there was enough in the early days of our Republic to draw the world's attention, if one were to begin a tally.

Whatever their motives are, it's a really stupid move on the part of Congressional Democrats to bring this resolution forward. Let's hope cooler heads prevail.