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Thompson's Strategy For The South
The Atlantic ^ | October 10, 2007 | Marc Ambinder

Posted on 10/10/2007 3:43:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Fred Thompson's road to the nomination, his advisers say, begins with a bridge to South Carolina. Now -- a bridge has two ends, and it looks like the anchorage is Iowa.

But how can Thompson possibly compete with Rudy Giuliani** on Feb. 5? New York? California? New Jersey?

Thanks to a quirk in the Republican delegate allocation schema, conservative, Republican candidates have an edge. The Republican National Committee awards bonus delegates to states based on their performance in general elections. States that always vote Republican get additional delegates; states like New York that vote Democratic do not. Bonus delegates account for about 20 of the total number.

The disparity can be significant. New York has four times as many voters as Georgia does but awards only 30% more delegates -- about 104 to Georgia's 72. So a strong performance by Thompson in Southern states on Feb. 5. could balance out Giuliani wins in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Delaware.

However: the Giuliani campaign persuaded state parties in their prime states to change the rules and award all delegates to a single winner. Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois, Alabama and other states award their delegates proportionally. So if the race is down to two candidates -- Thompson and Giuliani -- Giuliani would come in second in the Southern states and receive enough delegates to maintain his advantage.

The New Republic's John Judis ran the numbers based on current polling and concluded that Giuliani would exit Feb. 5 with a delegate lead of at least 150. Judis foresees state-by-state trench warfare, but the dynamics of momentum will probably winnow the field, especially if the Democrats consolidate their support for a single candidate.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at marcambinder.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 2008; al2008; conservatism; conservatives; election; election2008; electionpresident; elections; fred; fredthompson; ga2008; giuliani; gop; mittromney; nc2008; republicans; rinorudy; romney; rudygiuliani; sc2008; solidsouth; southernstrategy; southernvote; thompson; tn2008
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"How can we stop Rudy?" should be the question on every conservatives lips in the coming days.
1 posted on 10/10/2007 3:43:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope....”How can we stop Hillary?” should be the question on every conservatives lips in the coming days.


2 posted on 10/10/2007 3:45:47 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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Rudy = Hillary


3 posted on 10/10/2007 3:46:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Security * Unity * Prosperity | Fred08.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Robe
You are BOTH correct.

The first question is "How can we stop Hillary"?

The best way to elect Hillary is to DIVIDE and SPLIT the Party WIDE OPEN--while DEMORALIZING the base. No one does that better than Rudy.

Therefore, the next question naturally is "How can we stop Rudy"?

4 posted on 10/10/2007 3:51:02 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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Rudy = Hillary

Man, you NAILED it! I was just joking yesterday at work "why would anyone vote for Rudith when they can vote for hilldabeast and get the real thing."

5 posted on 10/10/2007 3:52:53 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The delegate allocation system in use in the Republican party isn’t all that new. They used it back in the days when the Solid South was solidly Democrat. That way the Republicans could say they had an actual presence in the South, but the half dozen Republicans there couldn’t tie up what the rest of the party was going to do.


6 posted on 10/10/2007 3:54:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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The disparity can be significant. New York has four times as many voters as Georgia does but awards only 30% more delegates --

Why should NY have any delegates? All their electorals will go dim for sure so what's the good of letting NY'ers have any say in the Pubbie candidate? They would elect Joe Stalin (Dem) over Abe Lincoln (Rep.) in any general election.

7 posted on 10/10/2007 3:56:02 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: stockstrader

No one eats their own like the Republicans.....I frankly haven’t made up my mind who I’ll vote for, except I know it won’t be for the Hilldabeast.. if it means voting for Rudy to keep her out of office,I’ll vote Rudy


8 posted on 10/10/2007 3:56:47 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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Rudy = Hillary

So as a conservative you are willing to vote for the Beast?

Please explain.

9 posted on 10/10/2007 4:13:34 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Truth to the Left is that which advances their goals. Factuality is irrelevant.)
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If Rudy does somehow gain the nomination, I’m packing my bags for distant shores, because Hillary vs. Rudy is NO CHOICE at all!! http://www.livinginthephilippines.com

No, I am not kidding!


10 posted on 10/10/2007 4:19:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Security * Unity * Prosperity | Fred08.com)
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I have never NOT voted for a Republican in my entire life. I never will vote for anyone other than a Republican. I have been working for campaigns since Reagan. I have been (up until Amnesty) a heavy financial donor to the RNC. I will NOT vote for rootie... and my Party... THE REPUBLICAN PARTY... had better wake up to the fact that MILLIONS of us feel like this and it will cost America and the Party everything... and the end of America as we know her will be on the hands of those that vote for a LIBERAL... any liberal to run against hildebeast.

LLS

11 posted on 10/10/2007 4:19:15 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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BINGO!! Hillary knows that, which is why the MSM is pimping for Rudy to be the GOP nominee. A three year old could see it!!


12 posted on 10/10/2007 4:21:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Security * Unity * Prosperity | Fred08.com)
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Will Romney’s MI IA NH UT ID maybe NV delegates be enough to swing the nomination to Thompson? I have always maintained that no matter where he leads and how he talks Romney is campaigning to win the VP slot. No one understands his Mormon problem better than he does. A term or two as a hard conservative VP and the Massachusetts flip flops are forgotten/forgiven and the Mormon boogey-man is put to rest.


13 posted on 10/10/2007 4:23:51 PM PDT by azcap
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There really exist people who seem otherwise sane , who swear to me they will not sit out if Rudy is the nominee , they will vote for Hillary and do everything in their power to finish the total destruction of the Republican party .


14 posted on 10/10/2007 4:26:41 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
which is why the MSM is pimping for Rudy to be the GOP nominee.

A three year old that needs glasses. To read the fine print on their five grand hilldabond.

15 posted on 10/10/2007 4:26:51 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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I don’t think the GOP can get it done with just the south and a few Rocky Mountain states, no matter who the candidate is. I also don’t believe Mr. Thompson can carry any states outside the south, and maybe a few Rocky Mountain states.


16 posted on 10/10/2007 4:35:16 PM PDT by snarkybob
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” which is why the MSM is pimping for Rudy to be the GOP nominee. A three year old could see it!!”

Yep!


17 posted on 10/10/2007 4:39:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

400 for a nice home? Not bad : )


18 posted on 10/10/2007 4:42:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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Rudy = Hillary

Except Rudy looks better in a dress.

19 posted on 10/10/2007 4:47:19 PM PDT by Always Right
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“I don’t think the GOP can get it done with just the south and a few Rocky Mountain states, no matter who the candidate is. I also don’t believe Mr. Thompson can carry any states outside the south, and maybe a few Rocky Mountain states.”

In 2004 there were several very close states that might swing another way: Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Mexico, New Hampshire, and others generally called battleground states. Events could swing several different states from 2004 to 2008 and Thompson could benefit. At this point, predictions concerning all the close states probably aren’t worth much.


20 posted on 10/10/2007 4:49:04 PM PDT by Will88
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