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Capitalist Heroes (Ayn Rand Remembered)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10 October 2007 | DAVID KELLEY

Posted on 10/10/2007 8:51:36 AM PDT by shrinkermd

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1 posted on 10/10/2007 8:51:42 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; Allosaurs_r_us; ...
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
2 posted on 10/10/2007 8:54:10 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: shrinkermd

bump


3 posted on 10/10/2007 8:54:18 AM PDT by mnehring ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: shrinkermd

“Businessmen are the one group that distinguishes capitalism and the American way of life from the totalitarian statism that is swallowing the rest of the world.
All the other social groups- workers, farmers, professional men, scientists, soldiers- exist under dictatorships, even though they exist in chains, in terror, in misery, and in progressive self-destruction.
But there is no such group as businessmen under a dictatorship.
Their place is taken by armed thugs: by bureaucrats and commissars.
Businessmen are the symbol of a free society- the symbol of America.”

Source: Capitalism – The Unknown Ideal Chapter 3
AYN RAND


4 posted on 10/10/2007 8:54:47 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: shrinkermd
Innovators, risk takers, and entrepreneurs are the great civillian heroes of American society, not "the working class."

Wal Mart has done more for poor people than the federal government ever has.

5 posted on 10/10/2007 8:56:59 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Clemenza

Why did the government work to get rid of the mafia? Because they don’t like competition.


6 posted on 10/10/2007 8:59:37 AM PDT by cyborg (Long Island Half Marathon finisher!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Where do we put the managerial elite? Not those who build with their sweat and blood, but advance through connivance into the higher echelons of corporate life? The Chuck Knights, the William Stiritz’: the short-term visionaries in green eyeshades of modern American life, or the hedge fund speculators, cunning manipulators of free markets such as Soros? They would be so at home under Fascist systems I cannot even tell you.


7 posted on 10/10/2007 9:00:05 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: cyborg

LOL. Very true.


8 posted on 10/10/2007 9:04:11 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: steve8714
I no longer refer to myself as a "capitalist." My defining characteristic -- my "top value" as Ayn Rand would say -- is not money but freedom. Therefore, I am a libertarian.

While I totally agree that capitalism is the only economic system compatible with freedom, I wish to differentiate myself from those people whom you described whose only value seems to be accumulating money. More and more and more money. And they are not too particular about how they go about doing it.
9 posted on 10/10/2007 9:12:04 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: shrinkermd

Ayn was born in February. What’s today’s occasion?


10 posted on 10/10/2007 9:14:10 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: shrinkermd
I have the privilege of working with and for a gentleman truly in the mold of Ayn Rand’s heroes. I can’t tell you how time consuming and utterly maddening it is to constantly have to fight the idiotic bureaucracy we face at every level day in and day out. When I think of the time, effort and dollars we spend dealing with government it just makes me sick. That effort and those dollars could be put to the use of expanding our business and the creation of more private sector jobs.

Atlas Shrugged is a book that will truly change your life and it should be required reading at every public school in America.

11 posted on 10/10/2007 9:16:28 AM PDT by Dave911
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To: Iwo Jima

Do you also believe in open borders and making all drugs
legal for all?


12 posted on 10/10/2007 9:18:06 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: shrinkermd

Big O’ Bump!


13 posted on 10/10/2007 9:18:39 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: upcountryhorseman

you misinterpret the libertarian ideals of legal immigration with illegal immigration, and making all drugs legal for all is a strawman argument. making possession not a crime and the freedom to ruin ones own life through drugs is an individual choice.

taking the money out of illegal drugs, will end the war on our freedoms.

teeman


14 posted on 10/10/2007 9:28:06 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: teeman8r

Well said!!!

I’ve been telling people for years that there is a difference between legalization and decriminalization. Sometimes they get it, most don’t.

Criminalization of a substance creates criminals where criminals do not exist.


15 posted on 10/10/2007 9:35:21 AM PDT by SkiKnee (It snows, therefore I ski.)
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To: upcountryhorseman
See my tagline. I do not believe in open borders. Many libertarians think as I do. Open borders is not necessarily derived from the core libertarian principle of non-agression, though many libertarians think that it is.

As to drugs, nobody believes that "all drugs should be legal for all." Minors have no capacity to make such decisions, and selling or giving drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, etc., to a minor is and should be illegal.

As to consenting adults, I believe in making marijuana legal subject to the same rules as alcohol and cigarettes. I would see how that goes before making other currently illegal drugs legal. I doubt that I would ever want to make meth legal.

I hope that you see the connection between the two subjects that you raised: drugs and borders. If marijuana were legal, that could very well destroy the Mexican drug lords who are sending tons of drugs and dangerous people into this country.
16 posted on 10/10/2007 9:35:59 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Rudder

Atlas Shrugged was published 50 years ago today.

I was homeschooled and it was assigned reading for me. Kid sister, also homeschooled, is currently reading it for the first time.


17 posted on 10/10/2007 9:40:21 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (All my posts represent my opinions.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Sort of...

Let’s not forget the businessmen who advocate government takeover of healthcare, supported the National Socialists, recruit the Justice Department against their competitors, lobby for federal subsidies, etc.

It’s not so much one’s occupation as one’s philosophy that is defining.


18 posted on 10/10/2007 9:50:16 AM PDT by beavus (People are rational in the mundane. Irrationality is left for what matters most.)
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“Where do we put the managerial elite? Not those who build with their sweat and blood, but advance through connivance into the higher echelons of corporate life?”

So you think only manual labor has any value. You think that business leaders got their positions by luck?

The ONLY resource of value in the universe is the human mind. Without it all other resources are worthless. Without knowledge and strategic thinking, all other resources, both labor and material, as well as capital, are wasted, squandered on products no one wants, unsuccessful ventures, and failed enterprises.

Business leaders become wealthy because they are more successful than ordinary people at combining capital, labor, and material to produce wealth. It takes intelligence and skill. Without them we would all still be hunters and gatherers.

19 posted on 10/10/2007 9:51:38 AM PDT by monday
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To: SkiKnee
Criminalization of a substance creates criminals where criminals do not exist.

It sure does.

"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

Recognize anything? You should.

L

20 posted on 10/10/2007 9:53:00 AM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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