Posted on 10/08/2007 3:01:03 PM PDT by vietvet67
In the days after 9/11, President Bush exhorted America and the world that Islam was a religion of peace, and that the perpetrators of the attacks had violated the very tenets of the religion they claimed to be killing for. Throughout the Iraq War, the Bush administration has made the case that democracy and Islam are compatible with one another, that they are not mutually opposing ideologies despite the reality that very few Islamic countries can be truly thought of as democratic.
Nevertheless, I and others have earnestly tried to believe that Islam does not condone the wanton killing of women and children, and that democracy can work in Islamic nations like Indonesia, Turkey, and Malaysia. However, there are some Muslims in the West seem to be making the argument to the opposite, that Islam cannot integrate smoothly, or is entirely incompatible, with Western values and traditions.
A Toronto mosque called, National Post reports, The Khalid Bin Al-Walid Mosque says to "avoid participating" in dinners, parties or greetings on Thanksgiving because it is a kuffaar, or non-Muslim, celebration. Not only is this surprising, but the term kuffaar is a derogatory one meaning "ingrate" that was once applied to slaves.
It gets better,
"How can we bring ourselves to congratulate or wish people well for their disobedience to Allah? Thus expressions such as: Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Birthday, Happy New Year, etc, are completely out," it says.
In 2003, the Khalid mosque, which mainly serves the Toronto Somali-Canadian community, apologized for a newsletter that compared wishing someone a Merry Christmas to congratulating a murderer.(link)
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
The President has gone down a long dark tunnel now with his proclamation that we all follow the same god. There is but one God. The moHAMadans worship a false god of a cult of death. George, you had better change your thoughts on that.
Today is Thanksgiving Thursday (4th Thus. in Nov.) in USA, when Americans feast on Turkeys. Can we Muslims participate in it, by wishing and offering a Turkey to our non-Muslim friends? (see details)Answer 4246
More information on this historic event is available at: http://www.usis.usemb.se/Holidays/celebrate/thanksgi.html ? In order to please my friend or neighbor, can I offer them a Turkey (skinned meat) purchased at the local American store (in it?s original packing, to be on the safe side)? ? If so, is it OK that I am buying something for them that is not Zabiha (like I mentioned, they?ll be worried to accept the kind of meat we buy, and since the meat is in it?s original packing from an American Supermarket, there is no liability for me)? And who knows, this way they will open up with me, and will be more receptive when I talk to them about Islam. ? If we Muslims also eat (zabiha) Turkey (since this is made available in stores for this holiday) in this time, are we sinful of imitating them?
We have studied the background of Thanksgiving day- to express gratitude to the favours of the natives of the 16th century. IN principal to express gratefulness and gratitude for favours rendered is encouraged. However, Thanksgiving being a national holiday express its salient position in the American culture, which has many unislamic values and principles.Celebrating Thanksgiving purposefully or subordinately is an expression of accepting the general American Culture. It is not celebrated independent of the American Culture. In view of the above it is not permissible to celebrate Thanksgiving Day.
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.
http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6025
ASK THE IMAM: what importance does birthdays have in Islam?And how do we celebrate?
As Salaam Alai Kum, Respected Mufti Saheb, I heard that Islam does not permit us to celebrate birthdays.So one of my cousin doesn’t celebrate his birthday or his wife’s birthday or his only two year old daughter’s birthday and when I wish him on the respective days,he tells me that Islam do not want us to celebrate birthdays and he gives me a lecture about it and tells me that it is a westernized culture or a worldly thing.But when I told one my friend about it she told me that,wishing is not prohibited in Islam neither does Islam say not to wish anyone on their happy day(birthday,wedding anniversary),she said there is nothing wrong in wishing and no where in Islam it says not to wish people.I have a question that is it in Islam to celebrate birthdays and if not can we just wish atleast.I am confused and want to know what does Islam according to Quran and Hadith say about birthdays.Can you please provide me with any authentic support if there is any from Quran or Hadith.May Allah reward you for this,Jazakhalla khairun.Wasalaam Alai Kum.ANSWER: CELEBRATING BIRTHDAYS
It is not necessary that everything the West does is according to logic. The biggest proof that it is the invention of the west are the song words
without which this function is not complete viz. ‘Happy birthday to you.’ No one says, ‘Happy birthday celebration’ or ‘Happy Blessed birthday’ or any other words of this kind. This disease of celebrating birthdays was never prevalent among Muslims before, but since Muslims started living alongside the non-Muslims, they have been influenced by them. Birthdays are celebrated usually at the end of a year and not at the beginning of the year. For example, if one’s birth date is on the 1st of January, then the birthday will be celebrated on the 1st of January and not the 2nd of January. Now just ponder, what intelligence is there in celebrating and showing happiness when a year has decreased in one’s life.During a birthday celebration, candles are lit on a cake, amounting to the years of the one’s life. He extinguishes these candles by blowing them out and all present clap their hands. Hands are clapped at two occasions only, one at the time of joy for some achievement of his. Secondly, when someone acts foolishly, then to mock at him. Here a person is extinguishing the rays of the years of his life by blowing them out himself. Then this is no happiness, nor is it any achievement. So the clapping of hands is only for mocking at this person’s stupidity. Ponder that this is a custom and sign of non-believers. When it is someone’s birthday, one year of his life has decreased, and not increased.
This world is a field to work for the hereafter. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu æ#129;layhi Wasallam)’s Ummah has been sent in this world for a very great object. The example of this world is like a king who send a few people into his treasure room saying that shortly he will send them out, so at that time whatever they will be possessing will be their property. Inside the treasure room, on one side there are heaps of gold and silver, on another side are lying pearls and jewels, then at another place in the room, delicious food and soft beds are arranged. Now some people think that the king may send them out any minute. They quickly gather the gold, silver, pearls and gems.
They feel they will go out from there and organise the food and beds for themselves afterwards. There is another group of people who think that they have just arrived. They feel, ‘Let us enjoy the food, then lay down to rest.
After that we will take from the treasures. There is ample time.’ So they eat, sleep and pass their valuable time without taking from the treasures.
Suddenly the king sends everyone out. Now those who had collected the valuables can enjoy their lives eating and sleeping while those that wasted their time and did not accumulate anything will begin to regret. Every moment of this worldly life is very valuable. Here we have to earn for the long and everlasting life of the hereafter. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu æ#129;layhi Wasallam) has said that after entering into Jannat, the people of Jannat will not be sorry about anything of this world, except for that moment which was spent without the remembrance of Allah. It is apparent that when reward will be granted for remembrance of Allah in this world which is an abode of actions, then one must surely feel very regretful, that if they should have spent more time in the remembrance of Allah, they could be worthy of more rewards.Hafiz Zain Siqti asked Hafiz Jurjani the reason for swallowing dry flour to which he replied that when he compared the time of swallowing dry flour and chewing roti then, in chewing so much time is spent in which say 70 times Subhanalla can be uttered. Therefore he left eating roti for the last 40
years.How can it be permissible to waste time by celebrating birthdays and becoming happy that a big slice of one’s life is put behind. This world is a prison for the believer and a Jannat for the disbeliever. Allah has bought the life and wealth of the believers for Jannat. This life is a trust of Allah by us. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu æ#129;layhi Wasallam) said, ‘A person will not be able to move from his place, until he does not reply to five
questions:
* How did you spend your life?
* How did you spend your youth?
* Where did you earn your wealth from?
* Where did you spend your wealth?
* How much did you act upon your knowledge?A person who is concerned of replying to these questions, how can he show happiness upon the years of his life decreasing? Besides all this, Islam does not permit waste. This is the reason that the poor of this Ummat will
enter Jannat 500 years before the wealthy, because the wealthy will be delayed by giving an account of their wealth. By spending on birthday parties, there is no benefit to Islam nor to the poor. It is stated in a
Hadith the worst Walima feast is the one in which the poor and destitute are left out and the wealthy are only invited. Another object of the birthday parties is show. Islam encourages simplicity. By this attitude of show, the poor feel inferior and deprived and the rich have a superiority complex.
Also, in these gatherings, music, singing, video filming and the taking of photographs and other un-Islamic and forbidden acts take place. May Allah Taãla guide us and protect us from all these evils.By Moulana Abdul Hamid Ishaq
Principal - Madrasah Arabia Islamia, Azaadville
It is nuttier than the Weekly World News.
The site is temporarily down but their writings on how pork makes you have loose morals (like a pig) and how slavery is still legal (the laws of Mohammed never end and we are to not question his wisdom) make for interesting reading.
Remind me to say "Merry Christmas" to every Muslim I meet this December.
Notice the number of public “prayers of conversion” we’ve had lately?
They are not very tolerant of our diversity.
President Bush is wrong. Islam is the eneny. It is not a religion of peace; it is a sour, sneaky, knife in the back to any democracy anywhere in the world. Look at Europe, look at what those folks are having to deal with! Look at the muslim community in America — they have said and done virtually nothing to contradict the violence against non-muslims or against America.
If that's the way you feel about American culture then stay the he[[ out of America.
They can kiss my kufaar tukas.......
The Christian Bible mentions that there will be a false leader. A deceiver. One who will lead the flock astray.
Islam is the only major religion in the world to acknowledge the existence of Jesus but at the same time denying His divinity, His death, and His resurrection. Millions kill in his name. Converts by the sword and enslaves the non-believer.
Sounds like an AntiChrist.
They are here as missionaries to take down The Great Satan.
The Democrats want to loose the war.
Is this the planet Zoron?
There will always be nutjobs around.
It's not a good thing to base the foreign policy decisions of an entire nation on what a few nutjobs are saying.
P.S.: Halloween is fun and any nutjob that says it is satanic and un-Christian needs to start taking their meds again.
After all it is a holiday that gives thanks to GOD for our abundance. Hmmmm?
I don’t care what they want or believe..........personally, I don’t want them in this country. Let them practive their cult in the middle east.
Muslims say that the observant should not celebrate Thanksgiving because it is an American holiday and we are an evil nation. What Christians say that about Halloween?
No more “Merry Ramadans” from me!
Some Christians try to get school districts NOT to celebrate Halloween because it offends them.
When they do so it opens up a can of worms. Now Muslims can try and get school districts NOT to celebrate Christmas, Easter, etc.
For most kids all of these holidays are fun. They are great chances for them to do art projects and learn about American traditions.
In the hands of a bunch of loony activists they become fodder in the culture wars. The kids are just crushed underneath without regard.
In India they celebrate everyone's holidays. This is not so good for business, but it is more ecumenical than only celebrating those holidays which offend noone.
It is very much like the experience these days of going out for pizza.
In the good ole' days everyone pretty much was OK with all the toppings so you could quickly agree on toppings that everyone could enjoy. Ordering a pizza was a unifying experience ... but no longer. Now so-and-so can't have meat, and so-and-so won't eat pork, and so-and-so doesn't like onions, and so-and-so can't eat olives.
Now ordering a pizza is a contentious process which either ends up in everyone settling for a simple cheese pizza, or getting some pizza that is 1/2 this, 1/4 that, and 1/4 the other.
People are becoming less-and-less fun every day.
When the robots takeover, more and more of us will just shrug our shoulders and say "It's about time."
Islam is the devil’s cult.
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