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Illegals may give state more clout - ... more seats in Congress
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| 10/07/2007
| Mike Swift
Posted on 10/07/2007 1:53:58 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Lets all give the democrats a big round of applause. And while we’re at it lets all send out a special thank you to the open border republicans.
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posted on
10/07/2007 1:56:36 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
To: calcowgirl
Not news, but fact....that’s how representation is made. Like slavery in modern times ie it’s used both on representation and cheap labor.
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posted on
10/07/2007 1:57:37 PM PDT
by
Rick_Michael
(The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
To: calcowgirl
Why on earth would we count non-citizens for electing representatives? I didn’t even know we were doing this. This is madness. We just can’t wait to give our country away.
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:00:11 PM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Deport all the illegals to sanctuary cities.)
To: Rick_Michael
Then let’s use the three-fifths rule.
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:00:18 PM PDT
by
Publius
(A = A)
To: calcowgirl
If they are undocumented, how does anybody prove that they are actually there? And, just who is in charge of providing the official count of people who aren’t there?
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:02:16 PM PDT
by
Bernard
(The only fair tax is the tax that taxes you and not me.)
To: calcowgirl
Like DUH! Just look along the borders at the Red/Blue maps of the last election.
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:03:08 PM PDT
by
mtbopfuyn
(I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
To: Bernard
They use the same "drive-by" methodology to count the homeless. In the case of illegals, I agree with a previous poster where if they are "un-documented", they are not technically HERE, and foreign citizens who ARE here are not part of this country's population, in ANY case.
This crap has no end, and we need to establish a bounty system for U.S. Citizens who turn in an illegal. WE could SAVE Billions this way, and it sure would clean up this mess.
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:05:48 PM PDT
by
traditional1
( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
To: Bernard
If they are undocumented, how does anybody prove that they are actually there?They're probably only undocumented in Mexico because they have documentation out the wazoo in the US - welfare, registered democrats, school enrollment, government housing, paychecks, bank accounts, home ownership, drivers licenses, jail time, unpaid hospital bills, etc.
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:06:55 PM PDT
by
mtbopfuyn
(I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
To: mtbopfuyn
That's an interesting point.
Put a map of "crime areas" next to a map of "Democrat-voting areas", and I am sure it would show where the voters for the Sociailists are.
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:07:49 PM PDT
by
traditional1
( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
To: MizSterious
Why on earth would we count non-citizens for electing representatives? I didnt even know we were doing this. This is madness. We just cant wait to give our country away.That is why the last couple census's they RATS insist upon counting the homeless under bridges. More representative for the RAT concentrated areas.
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:11:36 PM PDT
by
w1andsodidwe
(Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
To: calcowgirl
I would go even further. I would propose that representation be calculated ONLY FROM U.S. CITIZENS THAT ARE REGISTERED VOTERS.
If you aren’t a registered voter, you shouldn’t get representation.
To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:14:27 PM PDT
by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
To: calcowgirl
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:14:42 PM PDT
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
(Elections have consequences.)
To: calcowgirl
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:17:02 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: w1andsodidwe
That is why the last couple census's they RATS insist upon counting the homeless under bridges.And if the homeless guy under the bridge has multiple personalities, they will register each personality as a separate voter. As Democrat voters, of course!
To: calcowgirl
Actually, on second thought, I would go even further than my previous post. I would calculate representation by the number of actual voters that showed up to vote in the previous election.
To: calcowgirl
California would appear to have the most to lose if the apportionment of seats in the House were changed to be based only on citizens. Someone please explain why congressional seats would be based on anything BUT citizens????
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:24:27 PM PDT
by
TheBattman
(I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
To: Publius
Then lets use the three-fifths rule. I'll give it a try but after the first fifth, things get blurry and it makes it hard for me to drive.
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posted on
10/07/2007 2:25:53 PM PDT
by
BipolarBob
(Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
To: calcowgirl
A repeat but for dif’t reasons?
The failure to reapportion in 1920 was also a reflection of regional power dynamics. The results of the 1920 Census revealed a major and continuing shift in population from rural to urban areas, which meant that many representatives elected from rural districts resisted reapportionment. Also, the growing number of immigrants entering this country had some impact on population shifts. Delay followed delay as rural interests tried to come up with mechanisms that would reduce the impact of the population shift. Congressmen from rural areas that would lose seats to more urbanized areas simply blocked passage of reapportionment legislation for 9 years.
http://www-atlas.usgs.gov/articles/boundaries/a_conApport.html
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