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The president vs. the kids [Tammy Baldwin-10 million children abandoned]
Capital Times ^ | 10-7-07

Posted on 10/07/2007 12:01:54 PM PDT by SJackson

Madison Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin may have gotten off the best line about President Bush's veto of the bipartisan measure to extend the successful State Children's Healthcare Insurance Program, known as BadgerCare in Wisconsin.

"The man who coined the phrase 'No Child Left Behind' abandoned 10 million children today with the stroke of his veto pen," said Baldwin, a Democrat.

That sums Bush up.

When it comes to caring for kids, he's all talk.

The only time he ever follows through on his sloganeering is if he thinks there is a political benefit to be accumulated if he does so -- or a price to be paid if he does not.

Since Bush will never again face the American electorate, it is ridiculous to criticize or even care about his actions. He will be dealt with in the history books as a man whose presidency established the baseline against which all other failed tenures in the Oval Office will be measured.

While it may be satisfying to pick on Bush, he has for the purposes of this debate made himself a malignant bystander.

Energy focused on the president is wasted. In contrast, energy focused on getting House Republicans to support an override of the president's veto is well expended.

One Wisconsin Republican, Fond du Lac's Tom Petri, voted with Democrats in the state's delegation to extend access to health care to almost 38,000 children in Wisconsin and millions more around the country.

Two Wisconsin Republicans, Janesville's Paul Ryan and Menomonee Falls' James Sensenbrenner, voted with the president and against the kids.

Ryan and Sensenbrenner need to hear from Wisconsinites, and the message needs to be a blunt one: This is not a partisan fight. This is a fight between right and wrong -- a moral struggle as clear as any the Congress will confront.

Wisconsin Reps. Baldwin, Petri, Ron Kind, Gwen Moore, Steve Kagen and Dave Obey have occupied the moral high ground. Ryan and Sensenbrenner have stood the low ground with their president.

Ryan and Sensenbrenner made one wrong choice. Now they can get it right. They can stand with their president or with the children of Wisconsin.

Obey outlined the choice well when he said, "The same president who wants to borrow $50 billion to give another round of tax cuts to folks who make over a million bucks a year, the same president who wants to spend another $200 billion on Iraq, is saying now that we can't afford to invest less than one-fifth that amount to provide decent health care for 10 million American kids.

"If there's anyone in America who has a more warped sense of budget priorities than the president and his White House team -- all of whom have first-rate health care -- I'd like to know who it is."

Bush's priorities are warped, and the country has suffered much as a result.

Paul Ryan and James Sensenbrenner must now decide whether they want to perpetuate the suffering or address it. We often counsel a search for common ground -- especially when conservative Republicans are involved -- but there is no room for compromise on so clear a choice between right and wrong.


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To: Mr. Jeeves

Could not agree more. The Reps suck at selling. The bill had a funding cliff in 5 years. It ran out of money. Are the reps talking about that? No, once again they are on the defensive.


41 posted on 10/07/2007 5:11:35 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$
Baldwin tells The Advocate in a telephone interview from Madison, where she and Azar share a home with their two cats.pussy cats
42 posted on 10/07/2007 5:56:43 PM PDT by JoanneSD (Illegals represented without taxation.. Citizens taxed without representation)
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To: SJackson
Ryan and Sensenbrenner need to hear from Wisconsinites, and the message needs to be a blunt one: This is not a partisan fight. This is a fight between right and wrong -- a moral struggle as clear as any the Congress will confront.

A moral struggle? A fight between right and wrong?

Yes and yes but for the opposite reasons.

This would be theft -- not that this fact has stopped any previous thefts or thefts already in progress by our bureaucracy. And, as an aside, if health care is an entitlement, why are not food and housing in the eyes of these fools, too. No, the moral struggle really going on here is the struggle for freedom, a freedom which was mandated in the amongst the final words of the Preamble to our constitution: "...and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,..."

Here's a "blunt one" for The Capital Times: you want socialism in Wisconsin? Fine, then pass legislation in your own state, feel moral and righteous about it, and watch a precipitous drop in population once the 2010 census is conducted and tallied.

43 posted on 10/07/2007 6:05:25 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: freekitty
Love the pic of the manufactured scuffed up kid made to look third world.

And I love the sign the girl is holding...and I believe it too. Why did you know that right now, in our own country, children that need medical attention cannot get it? I'm serious; pediatricians haven't made a dime since the president's veto -- they've been forbidden to provide services and parents have been forbidden to take their children. Meanwhile those evil health insurers have no problem making those parents continue to make premiums on their family plans. I hear that Haliburton is considering jumping into the industry...no sh!t, I read this on the Daily Kos!

44 posted on 10/07/2007 6:12:14 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: freekitty

Well, the parents of 10 million illegal kids are unhappy.

What? I gotta pay for my own kids? I thought the gingos would do that.

Of course, maybe the govt of Mexico could pay for them, them being Mex citizens by and large?


45 posted on 10/07/2007 7:55:10 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I agree. I wish the government and big business would get off our backs.


46 posted on 10/07/2007 9:13:58 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: SJackson
The Capital Times Communists are upset.

Good.

47 posted on 10/07/2007 9:19:28 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: SJackson
Socialism is a moral struggle? The Left is using "the children" as political props to expand Big Government.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

48 posted on 10/08/2007 1:55:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SJackson

Quit having kids you cannot support.
Quit telling ME that I have to suffer paying for the kids you had that you cannot support.
Quit expecting ME to provide health benefits for your kids when I don’t have them MYSELF.
There is a growing class of parasites in this country who think they are ENTITLED to anything and everything.

Madison is getting worse and worse.

Money Magazine thinks Middleton (right next to Madison) is the best place in USA to live and work???? They need to re-think that choice, IMO.


49 posted on 10/08/2007 2:12:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Clintonfatigued

That left behind child who responded to Bush’s radio message turned out to attend a $20K per-year private school.””

That kid also had a sibling who attended the same school for another $20K per year.
Father claims combined income of family is $45K a year.
As a bookkeeper, the IRS needs to look into this family pronto.
Mortgage, food, insurance, car, tools for woodworker dad.
Smells to high heaven.
Hope he will be sorry he opened his big mouth. A thorough audit and a charge on income tax invasion will be proper.


50 posted on 10/08/2007 2:17:10 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Clintonfatigued

That left behind child who responded to Bush’s radio message turned out to attend a $20K per-year private school.””

That kid also had a sibling who attended the same school for another $20K per year.
Father claims combined income of family is $45K a year.
As a bookkeeper, the IRS needs to look into this family pronto.
Mortgage, food, insurance, car, tools for woodworker dad.
Smells to high heaven.
Hope he will be sorry he opened his big mouth. A thorough audit and a charge on income tax evasion will be proper.


51 posted on 10/08/2007 2:17:28 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Westlander

Geez! Warn a guy next time, huh?

52 posted on 10/08/2007 5:29:45 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: 17th Miss Regt; SJackson; ConservativeMan55; JulieRNR21; Cindy; Smartass; MeekOneGOP; ...
Another view...???

http://www.madison.com/images/articles/tct/2007/10/05/53770.jpg  http://www.seadogbytes.com/misc/the_real_issue2.jpg
                                                                       ...Thanks to Prime Choice for this one! - SB

   

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53 posted on 10/10/2007 12:44:13 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Yep.


54 posted on 10/10/2007 12:59:48 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Seadog Bytes

Excellent!


55 posted on 10/10/2007 6:29:13 AM PDT by OESY
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To: Seadog Bytes; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
there is no room for compromise on so clear a choice between right and wrong
That question indicates that you are a plant, and doesn't deserve a response. Oh, and Gore called to remind everyone that The Debate Is Over. Thanks SB.
56 posted on 10/10/2007 8:39:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SJackson

57 posted on 10/10/2007 8:41:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U (At least we didn't lose to Stanford))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Applause!


58 posted on 10/10/2007 2:03:59 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Seadog Bytes; devolve; Prime Choice

Thank you Seadog. That is a great graphic primechoice!


59 posted on 10/10/2007 3:32:38 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Seadog Bytes

THE ABORTION QUEEN

60 posted on 10/10/2007 4:37:22 PM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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