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Texas set to open new canyon to public
yahoo ^ | Fri Oct 5, 10:21 PM ET | MICHELLE ROBERTS

Posted on 10/06/2007 6:56:57 PM PDT by Esther Ruth

Texas set to open new canyon to public

By MICHELLE ROBERTS, Associated Press Writer

Fri Oct 5, 10:21 PM ET

CANYON LAKE, Texas - Geologic time has a different meaning when it comes to Canyon Lake Gorge. You could say it dates to around the end of the Enron era.

A torrent of water from an overflowing lake sliced open the earth in 2002, exposing rock formations, fossils and even dinosaur footprints in just three days. Since then, the canyon has been accessible only to researchers to protect it from vandals, but on Saturday it opens to its first public tour.

"It exposed these rocks so quickly and it dug so deeply, there wasn't a blade of grass or a layer of algae," said Bill Ward, a retired geology professor from the University of New Orleans who started cataloging the gorge almost immediately after the flood.

The mile-and-a-half-long gorge, up to 80 feet deep, was dug out from what had been a nondescript valley covered in mesquite and oak trees. It sits behind a spillway built as a safety valve for Canyon Lake, a popular recreation spot in the Texas Hill Country between San Antonio and Austin.

The reservoir was built in the 1960s to prevent flash flooding along the Guadalupe River and to assure the water supply for central Texas. The spillway had never been overrun until July 4, 2002, when 70,000 cubic feet of water gushed downhill toward the Guadalupe River for three days, scraping off vegetation and topsoil and leaving only limestone walls.

"Underneath us, it looks solid, but obviously it's not," said Tommie Streeter Rhoad of the Guadalupe Blanco River Authority, as she looked out over a cream-colored limestone crevasse.

The sudden exposure of such canyons is rare but not unprecedented. Flooding in Iowa in 1993 opened a limestone gorge behind a spillway at Corvalville Lake north of Iowa City, but that chasm, Devonian Fossil Gorge, is narrower and shallower than Canyon Lake Gorge.

Neither compares to the world's most famous canyon. It took water around 5 million to 6 million years to carve the Grand Canyon, which plunges 6,000 feet at its deepest point and stretches 15 miles at its widest.

The more modest Canyon Lake Gorge still displays a fault line and rock formations carved by water that seeped down and bubbled up for millions of years before the flooding.

Some of the canyon's rocks are punched with holes like Swiss cheese, and the fossils of worms and other ancient wildlife are everywhere. The rocks, typical of the limestone buried throughout central Texas, date back "111 million years, plus or minus a few hundred thousand years," Ward said.

Six three-toed dinosaur footprints offer evidence of a two-legged carnivore strolling along the water. The footprints were temporarily covered with sand to protect them as workers reinforced the spillway, but they'll be uncovered again eventually, Rhoad said.

The Guadalupe Blanco River Authority, which has a lease from the Army Corps of Engineers to manage the 64-acre Canyon Lake Gorge site, will begin offering limited public tours of the canyon Saturday, continuing year-round on the first Saturday of the month.

Early demand for the 3-hour tours is so high they are booked for at least six months. Rhoad said the authority hopes to train more docents so dates can be added.

Visitors will not be allowed to hike the canyon on their own because the brittle limestone is still breaking from the canyon walls.

Construction on a rim trail to overlook the canyon begins this winter. Officials hope to eventually build lookout points and an educational center.


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KEYWORDS: canyongorge; canyonlake; gbra; texas
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1 posted on 10/06/2007 6:56:59 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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2 posted on 10/06/2007 6:59:39 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth

Hmmm... maybe the Grand Canyon isn’t quite as old as people say...


3 posted on 10/06/2007 7:03:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Esther Ruth

I would hesitate taking any “3-hour tours”.


4 posted on 10/06/2007 7:04:02 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Esther Ruth

Bush’s fault.
(obviously, sarcasm ON)


5 posted on 10/06/2007 7:05:31 PM PDT by 9422WMR (Allah akbar fumar blacktar)
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To: Esther Ruth

Bush’s fault.
(obviously, sarcasm ON)


6 posted on 10/06/2007 7:07:49 PM PDT by 9422WMR (Allah akbar fumar blacktar)
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To: Esther Ruth

HA....it happened so fast after a flood...hello evolutionist...this is what happened after the biblical flood of Noah...grand canyon, anyone? This is just more proof of what happened during the biblical flood. Yet, evolutionist say it took millions of years. NOT...


7 posted on 10/06/2007 7:09:15 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Esther Ruth

Interesting post, thank you!


8 posted on 10/06/2007 7:26:03 PM PDT by eldoradude (Think for yourself!)
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To: Esther Ruth

Cool, I could live through more history.


9 posted on 10/06/2007 7:44:45 PM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: shield
HA....it happened so fast after a flood...hello evolutionist...this is what happened after the biblical flood of Noah...grand canyon, anyone? This is just more proof of what happened during the biblical flood. Yet, evolutionist say it took millions of years. NOT...

Sorry to have to disappoint you, but the last of the original creationist geologists trying to prove a global flood gave up in 1831.

Today, the scientific evidence against such a flood is overwhelming.

10 posted on 10/06/2007 7:48:01 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

It’s a 3-hour tour I’d do.


11 posted on 10/06/2007 7:51:33 PM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: Esther Ruth

Very interesting- Thanks for the post.


12 posted on 10/06/2007 7:58:13 PM PDT by matthew fuller (One of five dems are ADMITTED enemies of the USA; The rest lie.)
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To: shield
Several years ago, I saw a thing on Discovery Channel that theorized that the Grand Canyon may have been formed for the most part in a month or so. The theory is that there was some huge ice dam in southern Utah that held back the whole state sized lake, the ice dam broke and the ensuing flood down the (now) Colorado River cut the canyon along with other nearby canyons.

Seemed to make more sense than some relatively small stream doing all that cutting, no matter how long the timeframe. Now this Canyon Lake Gorge lends some credence to the “instant canyon” theory, to me.

13 posted on 10/06/2007 7:59:57 PM PDT by dusttoyou (FredHead from the git go)
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To: Coyoteman
Sorry to have to disappoint you, but the last of the original creationist geologists trying to prove a global flood gave up in 1831.

Today, the scientific evidence against such a flood is overwhelming.

So says you, to give YOUR view credence.

I was born in 1962, 131 years after 1831, and didn't discuss this subject with anyone until the mid 70's. Which would put it about 140 years later. And yet yours is the first time I've heard that everyone has given up trying to prove this, and accept that it didn't happen.

Next your going to tell me that any "true" scientist believes in Gorebull warming, and that any "scientist" who doesn't should have his credentials stripped from him.

14 posted on 10/06/2007 8:04:15 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: dusttoyou

Yes, the Grand Canyon has been proven to have formed very quickly...


15 posted on 10/06/2007 8:06:52 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Esther Ruth
A pictorial offering


16 posted on 10/06/2007 8:12:42 PM PDT by deport (>>>--Iowa Caucuses .. 102 days and counting--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: dusttoyou
Something you might find interesting.

The Grand Canyon and the Age of the Earth

17 posted on 10/06/2007 8:14:14 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

Thanks for the link!


18 posted on 10/06/2007 8:22:38 PM PDT by dusttoyou (FredHead from the git go)
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To: shield
They just have fun making up these words - bazillion trillion frillion padillion sckadillion - then putting them up all over the museums, like kids making up scrabble words.
19 posted on 10/06/2007 8:30:01 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.)
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To: mountn man
I was born in 1962, 131 years after 1831, and didn't discuss this subject with anyone until the mid 70's. Which would put it about 140 years later. And yet yours is the first time I've heard that everyone has given up trying to prove this, and accept that it didn't happen.

A Flood Geologist Recants, by Mike Dunford (scroll down to article). The first few paragraphs:

A noted geologist once delivered a remarkable statement in a public address before what was, at that time, the premier geological society in the world:

...But theories of diluvial gravel, like all other ardent generalizations of an advancing science, must ever be regarded but as shifting hypotheses to be modified by every new fact, till at length they become accordant with all the phenomena of nature.

In retreating where we have advanced too far, there is neither compromise of dignity nor loss of strength; for in doing this, we partake but of the common fortune of every one who enters on a field of investigation like our own....

Bearing upon this difficult question, there is, I think, one great negative conclusion now incontestably established -- that the vast masses of diluvial gravel, scattered almost over the surface of the earth, do not belong to one violent and transitory period. It was indeed a most unwarranted conclusion, when we assumed the contemporaneity of all the superficial gravel on the earth. We saw the clearest traces of diluvial action, and we had, in our sacred histories, the record of a general deluge. On this double testimony it was, that we gave a unity to a vast succession of phenomena, not one of which we perfectly comprehended, and under the name diluvium, classed them all together.

To seek the light of physical truth by reasoning of this kind, is, in the language of Bacon, to seek the living among the dead, and will ever end in erroneous induction. Our errors were, however, natural, and of the same kind which lead many excellent observers of a former century to refer all the secondary formations of geology to the Noachian deluge. Having been myself a believer, and, to the best of my power, a propagator of what I now regard as a philosophic heresy, and having more than once been quoted for opinions I do not now maintain, I think it right, as one of my last acts before I quit this Chair, thus publicly to read my recantation.

We ought, indeed, to have paused before we first adopted the diluvian theory, and referred all our old superficial gravel to the action of the Mosaic flood.... (Sedgwick, 1831, p. 312-314).

The speaker was Reverend Adam Sedgwick, Woodwardian Professor of Geology at Cambridge University, and at the time of his 'recantation' President of the Geological Society of London. He was a highly respected geologist (and is still considered by many to be one of the greatest geologists of all time), and until shortly before that address was considered to be one of the staunchest supporters of the deluge as a major event in the history of the earth. ...

His recantation marks the death-knell for that hypothesis, although it would be a few more years before the final convulsions ceased. By 1840, however, no respected geologist continued to propose that the flood was a major factor in the history of the earth.


20 posted on 10/06/2007 8:38:47 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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