1 posted on
10/06/2007 12:15:36 PM PDT by
yorkie
To: yorkie
So what drugs was she taking....to get all hyped up and out of control? The family only talks of alcohol issues....but I’m betting she had lots of issues.
To: yorkie
What I couldn’t understand from the beginning is, if she was “that” unstable, why was she flying alone?
To: yorkie
You NEVER, NEVER, NEVER let a person who is suicidal travel alone or even be alone. This guy is in the running for callous husband of the year and her mom is in the running for callous mother of the year.
To: yorkie
Unless one has been there , it is hard to imagine the stress one undergoes when one perceives them self wrongly detained , cuffed and stuffed and chained and shackled ,especially when chained to a fixed object and left in a detention cell .
7 posted on
10/06/2007 12:29:43 PM PDT by
kbennkc
(For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. F Troop)
To: yorkie
Apparently, concerned husband-poo wasn't worried enough to accompany said alcoholic, suicidal nut case to the airport?
Say what?
8 posted on
10/06/2007 12:33:38 PM PDT by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: yorkie
"...the police dont really understand what theyre dealing with right now and no one has called me.... Mr. Gotbaum told an operator.
Mr. G called the airport too late, sadly his wife had already passed. Sadly, the police could not have known with what they were dealing. Unfortunate incident for everyone, but the police are not to blame.
To: yorkie
I would note that all of these observations are coming after the fact. Forget what you’ve learned about this poor soul and the terrible outcome of her experience. Put yourself in the place of those who were called on to handle the situation at the time it was unfolding. They knew none of this. They were confronted with a person who from all accounts, backed up by video, was completely out of control. They did what they deemed appropriate at the time. It’s hardly good sportsmanship to explain the rules of the game after the game is over and everyone knows the outcome.
19 posted on
10/06/2007 1:11:51 PM PDT by
jwparkerjr
(Sigh . . .)
To: yorkie
I would note that all of these observations are coming after the fact. Forget what you’ve learned about this poor soul and the terrible outcome of her experience. Put yourself in the place of those who were called on to handle the situation at the time it was unfolding. They knew none of this. They were confronted with a person who from all accounts, backed up by video, was completely out of control. They did what they deemed appropriate at the time. It’s hardly good sportsmanship to explain the rules of the game after the game is over and everyone knows the outcome.
20 posted on
10/06/2007 1:12:04 PM PDT by
jwparkerjr
(Sigh . . .)
To: yorkie
Alcohol Withdrawal Symptoms:
Mild to moderate psychological symptoms:
Feeling of jumpiness or nervousness
Feeling of shakiness
Anxiety
Irritability or easily excited
Emotional volatility, rapid emotional changes
Depression
Fatigue
Difficulty with thinking clearly
Bad dreams
Mild to moderate physical symptoms:
Headache - general, pulsating
Sweating, especially the palms of the hands or the face
Nausea
Vomiting
Loss of appetite
Insomnia, sleeping difficulty
Paleness
Rapid heart rate (palpitations)
Eyes, pupils different size (enlarged, dilated pupils)
Skin, clammy
Abnormal movements
Tremor of the hands
Involuntary, abnormal movements of the eyelids
Severe symptoms:
A state of confusion and hallucinations (visual) — known as delirium tremens
Agitation
Fever
Convulsions
“Black outs” — when the person forgets what happened during the drinking episode
Long term Stage 4 alcoholics in withdrawal may experience death from loss of autonomous body functions.
A shame all around.
21 posted on
10/06/2007 1:14:32 PM PDT by
ASOC
(Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
To: yorkie
Sh*t happens in life. If the Gotbaums were Republicans this story wouldn’t even have made the papaers. They ought to get over it and move on, just like they tell the rest of us to do.
27 posted on
10/06/2007 1:30:25 PM PDT by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: yorkie
His words will come back to haunt him when he tries to sue.
30 posted on
10/06/2007 1:45:07 PM PDT by
peggybac
(Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
To: yorkie
If she was suicidal..WHY THE HELL DID THEY LET HER GET ON THE PLANE ALONE???? More fodder for the State of AZ.
32 posted on
10/06/2007 1:59:40 PM PDT by
Hildy
("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
To: yorkie
Gotbaum’s post-hoc CYA PR is going to make him look worse than if he’d just kept quiet and consoled his poor kids.
41 posted on
10/06/2007 3:03:39 PM PDT by
AZLiberty
(President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
To: yorkie
A few hours too late....
she should have never traveled alone given her KNOWN history. His effort should have been before he put her on that first plane.
59 posted on
10/07/2007 1:27:10 PM PDT by
donnab
(saving liberals brains....one moron at a time.)
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