Giuliani, Evangelical Rift Grows Over Abortion

The Christian Post ^ | October 5, 2007 | Michelle Vu

[PhilDragoo]

Soros, and China, and Dobson--oh my.

[potlatch]

I haven’t been reading the thread devolve but you always know what you are talking about.

There is nothing to compare with the evil of Hillary.

[SoConPubbie]

'The survival of our civilization is at stake and those like Dobson are willing to let it burn over "principle".'

You are incorrect with your analogy.

It will be people like you, who refuse to whole-heartedly fight for a principled conservative and choose instead to either fight for Rudy or leave the door open for him that will cause our civilization to fail because by your actions you are comprising on the foundations of our culture and society.

But nice try at trashing people of principle.

It bears repeating as many times as Rudyphiles and Rudy Sychopants post their ramblings like this that a Rudy campaign in the General election will destroy the Republican party much faster even than our worst nightmare of a Hillary Presidency.

They (Rudy and Hillary) are basically one and the same. If you don't believe me, just ask Rudy. He is on record stating that his positions on the issues are the same as the Clinton's positions.

[Star Traveler]

p>

There are far higher issues at stake than whether a candidate supports the FMA...or personally is pro-life or pro-death.

That's not a Biblical or Godly view. That's a "worldly view" that you're espousing. And that's not what you read and hear from God, in the Bible, His Word. So, sorry to tell you that you're wrong in that, in that you don't have the mind of God there.

And, besides that, I already know what's going to happen to the Islamics in the world. The Bible has already made that clear. I don't have to worry about it, as God makes it very clear, in His word, that He has all these things totally in His control.

Now, what we have to do, as a nation, is draw near to God, and He will draw near to us and continue to offer His protection in these instances. If we refuse to do that, nationally, then God's protection will be withdrawn from the nation and many disastrous things will happen, even while God continues to work out His divine plan in the world.

So, it's up to the people in the United States as to whether they are going to pay attention to God, or pay attention to the enemy. I choose God, as far as I'm concerned.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[SoConPubbie]

Ol’ Sparky is right freemike.

That is the worst case of a strawman that I have seen in a long time.

[Brimack34]

Rudy could make up the divide by getting 30% of the normal democrats.

[blackbart.223]

"It bears repeating as many times as Rudyphiles and Rudy Sychopants post their ramblings like this that a Rudy campaign in the General election will destroy the Republican party much faster even than our worst nightmare of a Hillary Presidency."

If Hillary gets elected with majority's in the house and Senate kiss your "principals" goodbye. Dobson is a self serving idiot who will sell you out to promote his inflated ego.

[sonic109]

who will ( could) her ..seriously ?

[Star Traveler]

There is nothing to compare with the evil of Hillary.

Oh, I wouldn't say that. There is much worse than that. It's called the divine judgement of God upon this nation. That will beat Hillary's best effots all to Hell. LOL!

Regards,
Star Traveler

[sonic109]

If we get stuck on the abortion issue Klinton will win PERIOD.
There is no doubt about it in my mind. Abortion will be decided in the Supreme Court not by the president. We have to back whoever can actually beat her.

[sonic109]

And you think Hunter can beat Klinton ..seriously ? Im sorry my friend . We;re going to lose to her if we don’t ALL agree on someone who can win.

[sonic109]

They (Rudy and Hillary) are basically one and the same
that it TOTALLY not true , not by a long long long shot. Tha’s absurd.keep itr up and we will get HER as president , mark my words. It’s in the bag for her unless we ALL agree on someone who can ACTUALLY win.I agree with Newt , %80 chance she gets in. If she does it will be all over for the US as we know it .

[potlatch]

[There is much worse than that. It’s called the divine judgement of God upon this nation]

Have you thought about the possibility that Hillary being elected President MAY BE God’s punishment to our nation??

Regards...

[sonic109]

I don’t think God will punish America if we don’t elect an anti abortion president.That judgment will be on the individual I’m sure.

[devolve]

Dr. Dobson & Dr. Hillary

Perfect together

Most on this thread ignore that Dobson turned thumbs down for Fred Thompson too

Dobson is about to join the dancing lefties troup

Anyone can quote cherry-picked scripture verses; anyone can pray that "Whatever happens is OK with the Big Guy or a badly needed lesson!"

Yet few comprehend:

Luke 22:36 tells that after the Passover meal:

Jesus said to his disciples "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one....."

[potlatch]

I agree with you sonic. We are judged by our own deeds. Just because a bad thing is legal doesn’t mean we DO it!!

[blackbart.223]

"There is no doubt about it in my mind. Abortion will be decided in the Supreme Court not by the president. We have to back whoever can actually beat her."

Don't confuse these people with logic.

[potlatch]

Good graphic Phil!

[devolve]

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Excellent points potlatch!

Also “Imanujob” sez:

“Allah will destroy Israel and America”

Sound like many of the posts on this thread...........???

[sonic109]

Yea, I know. I don’t think people see that we have little chance of wining as it is next year. If we make the abortion issue THE issue that splits our votes or NOT VOTE at all for a particular Republican candidate then we are making sure SHE will be in the White House and sealing the fate of the USA. I think this is THE most important election on modern times coming up.If Klinton wins this will turn into a 3rd world Socialist toilet in a years time. Islam is cheering her to win , I’m POSITIVE of that .