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To: Dog

I don’t buy it. The Syrians and Iranians will change their systems based upon that attack.

So that attack was not a test run against Iran.

Iran announced this week that it has deployed its own “new defense system.”

You don’t give up the element of surprise by revealing that you can take down an enemy system just for the heck of it.


18 posted on 10/05/2007 10:35:03 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

>You don’t give up the element of surprise by revealing that you can take down an enemy system just for the heck of it.

Bingo. - Exactly.


23 posted on 10/05/2007 10:39:04 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: Southack
The Syrians and Iranians will change their systems based upon that attack.

No one can "change" their defense system within a time frame of a month. Both Syria and Iran have built up a Russian defense system over years, which apparently has been proven to be worthless.

Iran announced this week that it has deployed its own “new defense system.

You don't buy every PR utterance by Iran, don't you? Their "own new" defense system? Who are they kidding? The Russia supplied stuff doesn't do the job, so they want to convince us that Iranian made defense systems work? This very statement is an indication for their confusion, since they have realized that the costly Russian defense system are easily penetrable.

26 posted on 10/05/2007 10:42:25 AM PDT by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: Southack

Actually you’re quite wrong here.

You do want them to know, it’s called deterrence.

A country is going to be less prone to try something funny if they know that their much vaunted defense systems are no better than putting Ahmed in a tree with binoculars.

Not only that, but it’s also a mental attack in the respect that their leadership, citizens, and military know that they are essentially defenseless if the Israelis or Americans decided to just walk in and level their government.

It’s truly a great weapon to let them know, prevents them from trying to attack when they’re too worried that they’re going to get whacked.


27 posted on 10/05/2007 10:42:34 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: Southack
You don’t give up the element of surprise by revealing that you can take down an enemy system just for the heck of it.

I have a hunch that we also more powerful stuff in our arsenal that will make this system look like child's play = we don't let the enemy know about one new toy without having even newer ones lined up and ready...

Iran announced this week that it has deployed its own “new defense system.”

made where?

Oh, and they don't have any homosexuals either.

61 posted on 10/05/2007 11:27:55 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Southack

“The Syrians and Iranians will change their systems based upon that attack.”

That will be a neat trick. The new SAM systems are mobile. The only thing they can do is move them around. It didn’t work in the Bekaa Valley the last time they got big time stomped. There are only a few plausible places to put them based on what you are actually trying to defend.

If the target ain’t moving the SAMS don’t have much scope either. There are no emergency fixes they are going to apply to these systems that are magically going to make them work better.

I frankly doubt the operators are going to do all that great a job either. Firecontrol systems are hard enough to operate in a benign environment against big cooperative targets. I might credit the Serbs with coming up with some nasty trick and being smart enough to use this equipment to nail somebody but not the Syrians.


97 posted on 10/05/2007 1:35:25 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Southack
I agree. There was a primary reason for the attack, and testing defenses wasn't it.
203 posted on 10/06/2007 6:26:18 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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