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Israeli raid caused electronic disruption over wide areas of Syria
WorldTribune.com ^ | October 5, 2007 | Unk.

Posted on 10/05/2007 10:11:12 AM PDT by Signalman

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To: Bobkk47

>but Syria was able to get a small amount of sensor information from one of its electronic eavesdropping stations and spot the Israeli infiltration.

That is not good. More work to be done there.


21 posted on 10/05/2007 10:37:24 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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So what you’re essentially saying is that the Syrian’s “got pantsed” by the Israelis and Americans


22 posted on 10/05/2007 10:37:48 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: Southack

>You don’t give up the element of surprise by revealing that you can take down an enemy system just for the heck of it.

Bingo. - Exactly.


23 posted on 10/05/2007 10:39:04 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: Bobkk47

EMP, something like they used in the Matrix??????/Just Asking - seoul62..........


24 posted on 10/05/2007 10:39:34 AM PDT by seoul62 (Just asking, Seoul62)
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To: Bobkk47

I still think US Navy EA6-B’s might have been used in this attack. Perhaps on the Iraq/Syrian border, in the MED, or both.


25 posted on 10/05/2007 10:39:37 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: Southack
The Syrians and Iranians will change their systems based upon that attack.

No one can "change" their defense system within a time frame of a month. Both Syria and Iran have built up a Russian defense system over years, which apparently has been proven to be worthless.

Iran announced this week that it has deployed its own “new defense system.

You don't buy every PR utterance by Iran, don't you? Their "own new" defense system? Who are they kidding? The Russia supplied stuff doesn't do the job, so they want to convince us that Iranian made defense systems work? This very statement is an indication for their confusion, since they have realized that the costly Russian defense system are easily penetrable.

26 posted on 10/05/2007 10:42:25 AM PDT by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: Southack

Actually you’re quite wrong here.

You do want them to know, it’s called deterrence.

A country is going to be less prone to try something funny if they know that their much vaunted defense systems are no better than putting Ahmed in a tree with binoculars.

Not only that, but it’s also a mental attack in the respect that their leadership, citizens, and military know that they are essentially defenseless if the Israelis or Americans decided to just walk in and level their government.

It’s truly a great weapon to let them know, prevents them from trying to attack when they’re too worried that they’re going to get whacked.


27 posted on 10/05/2007 10:42:34 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: Bobkk47

Operator: We get signal.
Captain: What !
Operator: Main screen turn on.
Captain: It’s you !!
CATS: How are you gentlemen !!
CATS: All your base are belong to us.
CATS: You are on the way to destruction.
Captain: What you say !!
CATS: You have no chance to survive make your time.
CATS: Ha Ha Ha Ha ....


28 posted on 10/05/2007 10:42:35 AM PDT by McGruff (If I can't have Cheney I guess Fred will have to do.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; Ax; ...
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Another No Comment thread.

29 posted on 10/05/2007 10:43:50 AM PDT by ASA Vet (W)
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To: Dog
Found the possible system in a Google search....

U.S. aerospace industry and retired military officials indicated today that a technology like the U.S.-developed “Suter” airborne network attack system developed by BAE Systems and integrated into U.S. unmanned aircraft by L-3 Communications was used by the Israelis. The system has been used or at least tested operationally in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last year.

The technology allows users to invade communications networks, see what enemy sensors see and even take over as systems administrator so sensors can be manipulated into positions so that approaching aircraft can’t be seen, they say. The process involves locating enemy emitters with great precision and then directing data streams into them that can include false targets and misleading messages algorithms that allow a number of activities including control.

Aviation Week

30 posted on 10/05/2007 10:44:03 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: seoul62
EMP is not necessary.

It appears, the Israeli’s (or the US) developed a very effective AECM (Active Electronics Countermeasure) technique for the Russian SAM’s.

31 posted on 10/05/2007 10:46:35 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: seoul62; rocksblues; bill1952
See Post #30, I think I found the weapon that was used.
32 posted on 10/05/2007 10:48:18 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ryan71

See the post above yours (#31) for the answer.


33 posted on 10/05/2007 10:49:17 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: gjones77; Dog
"Actually you’re quite wrong here. You do want them to know, it’s called deterrence."

You're confusing the argument.

Let's start over.

Dog's theory is that Israel hit Syria as a test run for an attack on Iran.

That's valid, but my counter-point is that you don't reveal how you are going to attack Iran if you really mean to do it because that gives up the element of surprise and allows for your enemy to have a shot at changing/improivng their defenses.

You, however, are making a different argument: deterrence.

Revealing that you can hit someone *is* a valid tactic for deterrence.

But deterrence is not Dog's theory.

34 posted on 10/05/2007 10:49:53 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Dog

Being over 50 has a number of downsides, and just one of them is that I’d probably have to live to be about 120 before finding out what happened. Those in there 20’s and 30’s just have to make it into their 80’s or 90’s. :-)


35 posted on 10/05/2007 10:52:14 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: cynwoody

Hit the “Change All” button on the spell checker, I suspect.


36 posted on 10/05/2007 10:53:26 AM PDT by HundredDollars
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To: gjones77
You do want them to know, it’s called deterrence.

Exactly....

37 posted on 10/05/2007 10:54:12 AM PDT by Dog
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To: ravingnutter

Yea, I saw that in Aviation Week. Very interesting and very possible it was used.

But I think our conventional EW is perfectly capable of blinding the Syrians.

Cool story. I think the Syrians had more than just chemicals or the makings of a dirty bomb. Because of the urgency of the strike and different reactions, I think they had a ready device.

I hope we know more about it, some day. Or maybe not...


38 posted on 10/05/2007 10:55:33 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: Southack
But deterrence is not Dog's theory.

You are right....my theory was that the whole mission was aimed at spoofing the Syrian system. And from the sounds of it...it worked.

39 posted on 10/05/2007 10:56:17 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog

Always willing to oblige.

You’re wrong.


40 posted on 10/05/2007 10:58:08 AM PDT by null and void (<---- Living a life of quiet desperation...)
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