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Israeli raid caused electronic disruption over wide areas of Syria
WorldTribune.com ^ | October 5, 2007 | Unk.

Posted on 10/05/2007 10:11:12 AM PDT by Signalman

The lid of secrecy covering the Sept. 6 Israeli air strike into Syria remains tight but one new theory emerging amid the speculation is that the Israeli conducted an electronic warfare exercise in preparation for future strikes or an attack on Iran.

Authoritative reports from the Middle East stated that the Israel operation included extensive electronic warfare jamming by aircraft. The Israeli were testing the capabilities of Russian-made air defenses, including both radar and missiles located near Damascus and south of Homs near the Lebanese northern border.

The raid was unprecedented in the blanket of jamming and electronic disruption that it caused over wide areas of Syria enroute to the target point, a base near the Euphrates River.

The jamming also affected parts of Lebanon and Israel but Syria was able to get a small amount of sensor information from one of its electronic eavesdropping stations and spot the Israeli infiltration.

The raid was part of a U.S. “masint” operation according to this theory, referring to the military practice known as measurement and signature intelligence that is designed to learn the chrematistics and capabilities of all weapons in a region that emanate electronic signals. The masint signatures are needed for targeting and for defeating air defense threats.

The daring raid would gain valuable intelligence needed for future strikes by both Israel and the United States in the region.

The U.S. military is considering attacks on both Syria and Iran to counter infiltration by insurgents and terrorists into Iraq, including the Iranian paramilitaries. Israel could use the data for its battle against Hizbullah and possibly a future strike on Iranian nuclear facilities.

Journalist Jack Wheeler raised this idea in a recent report when he stated that the identity of the target, whether nuclear facilities, missiles or Hizbullah terrorists is “not the story.”

“The primary point of the attack was not to destroy that target,” Wheeler said. “It was to shut down Syria's Russian air defense system during the attack. Doing so made the attack an incredible success. Syria is shamed and silent. Iran is freaking out in panic. Defenseless enemies are fun.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 090607; airstrikes; decm; ecm; elint; iaf; iran; iraq; israel; masint; raid; sept6; sept62007; syria; syrianraid
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To: bill1952

>You don’t give up the element of surprise by revealing that you can take down an enemy system just for the heck of it.

Bingo. - Exactly.

Well if you think of it, it causes them to spend billions buying more russian junk that will not work.


181 posted on 10/05/2007 9:33:25 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (A ron paul supporter called me a traitor and said I should be executed for not supporting him)
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To: Dog
Karl what is EAM messages ?

Emergency Action Message.

182 posted on 10/05/2007 9:39:02 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: BurbankKarl
Been hearing the EAM messages all evening long.

Where/how were you hearing the EAMs? What band, and how did you know what they were. I'm sure they are encrypted, but might have a standard format.

183 posted on 10/05/2007 9:40:53 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ryan71

“I still think US Navy EA6-B’s might have been used in this attack. Perhaps on the Iraq/Syrian border, in the MED, or both.”

IIRC, the EA-6B has been retired from service.

The Israeli F-16’s have those dorsal spines that are more than likely packed with jamming gear. Plus there are their new F-15I Mud Hens that are probably also packed with jammers too.


184 posted on 10/05/2007 9:43:50 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (A ron paul supporter called me a traitor and said I should be executed for not supporting him)
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To: saradippity
All that would do is devastate and destroy their cities and villages and kill multitudes of civilians,thereby ensuring that we will be hated and despised for a good,long time.

Ah, yes, I forgot how popular the US has been in the Middle East since the days of Jimmuh Carter...(think about it).

And I especially forgot how hated and despised the US is in Japan and Germany after indiscriminate mass bombings of civilians in those countries.

Full Disclosure: "It doesn't matter how good your theories are, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If they don't agree with experiment, they're wrong." -- Dick Feynman

Cheers!

185 posted on 10/05/2007 10:00:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: maine-iac7

“Iran announced this week that it has deployed its own “new defense system.”

made where?”

Some cave?

Their “new” defense system probably comprises of kids armed with spitballs since they’d be more effective than the russian Pantsyr S1.


186 posted on 10/05/2007 10:03:10 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (A ron paul supporter called me a traitor and said I should be executed for not supporting him)
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To: txflake
First Minot,,,They ain’t sendin’ no B-52 no where,no time,
no way on a nuke-strike with FIVE BULLITS !!...AIN’T!...;0)

~~~JMHO~FWIW~~~

Interesting points,,,

I think the intel came from sat-pics from the start of this,
Tracked from NK all the way,,,from whatever site the “load”
came from,,,Mossad/? started the land track at each stop,,,
Mossad/? have been watchin’ those “sites” for a long time now,,,

Syria/Moozzi/Azzholes/Hezzi/Shi’itt/Lil’Kim/lil’man from iran/et al(IMO) are Loadin’~UP a salvo~attack on Israel
with “WHATEVER” they can stuff in a rocket/pipe~bomb,,,etc.

Still Waitin’ For The IAF~IDF To Strike First(67)...:0/

187 posted on 10/05/2007 10:10:31 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Southack

“The world doesn’t work like that. If Iran has learned that Israel can render all digital systems obsolete, then Iran will switch to old analog systems that are commonly available throughout the world.

Radars worked long before the first computer ever talked to them. They’ll still work today. Such old, analog radar air defense systems are commercially available.

So the argument falls on its face that Iran can’t do anything about their digital systems being hacked...Iran can revert back to analog and simply stack up bodies filling more jobs...because Iran’s been warned via Israel’s attack on Syria.

Which is to say, the “test run” on Syria doesn’t stand up when one considers Iran’s options.

September 6 was *not* about deterrence or a message. Israel did not just give up the fact that it can blank radars.

Nope. Israel hit a very real target with high threat value to the lives or livlihoods of all Israelis.”

Even if they revert back to the old analog systems, they still would be like Stevie Wonder in the dark because a jammer can blank them too.


188 posted on 10/05/2007 10:12:34 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (A ron paul supporter called me a traitor and said I should be executed for not supporting him)
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To: jedward

Gotta link about the tanks?
~~~
LOL,,,No,,,Not Yet...;0)


189 posted on 10/05/2007 10:13:28 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: justiceseeker93; Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ..

EMP... that’s a nice bonus... “my Arab brothers, do you wonder what kind of EMP would result from a nuke?” ;’) Thanks justiceseeker93.


190 posted on 10/05/2007 10:21:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Belasarius

“I might credit the Serbs with coming up with some nasty trick and being smart enough to use this equipment to nail somebody but not the Syrians.”

It was dumb luck really. It seems that in certain conditions a black airplane at night can be seen (hence the reason for the “Gray Dragon”) and the SA-6 the serbs used to shoot down that F-117 was fired optically.


191 posted on 10/05/2007 10:22:16 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (A ron paul supporter called me a traitor and said I should be executed for not supporting him)
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To: Slapshot68
Tactical EMP device?

Shutting down a system is a tip-off somethings up. It was probably more like a hijacking...

192 posted on 10/05/2007 10:28:38 PM PDT by GOPJ (When it makes you mad -- "ping & grrrr" -- Freeper:pandoraou812)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Tank links

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2007/09/mil-070910-voa02.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6991718.stm

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/10/europe/EU-GEN-Turkey-Israel-Syria.php

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188392553869&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

193 posted on 10/05/2007 10:30:24 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: txflake

TANKS,,,;0),,,lookin’...


194 posted on 10/05/2007 10:52:08 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Bobkk47

“Defenseless enemies are fun.”

I nominate this for quote of the day!

Mark


195 posted on 10/05/2007 11:00:08 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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Israelis seized nuclear material in Syrian raid
Times Online | 9/23/07 | Uzi Mahnaimi and Sarah Baxter
Posted on 09/22/2007 10:30:07 PM EDT by Libloather
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1900827/posts

“Israeli commandos seized nuclear material of North Korean origin during a daring raid on a secret military site in Syria before Israel bombed it this month, according to informed sources in Washington and Jerusalem.”

Silence In Syria, Panic In Iran
To The Point News | 19 September, 2007 | Dr. Jack Wheeler
Posted on 09/26/2007 1:31:25 PM EDT by Salem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1902542/posts


196 posted on 10/05/2007 11:01:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: rocksblues
EWS was my specialty from 1966-1970 with the USAF. We were not allowed to turn on our equipment within the USA. We could black out cities.

I seem to recall something like that happened a number of years ago when an EA6-B was operating off the eastern seaboard. Caused massive power and communications disruptions for hundreds of miles.

197 posted on 10/05/2007 11:03:10 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: Bobkk47

50 KW of ECM does seem to shut things down. I can jam PBS in a few hours. You don’t screw with satellite uplinks unless you know what you are doing.


198 posted on 10/05/2007 11:22:17 PM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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To: BobS
I can jam PBS in a few hours.

Are you taking requests? Like Bill Maher? And Frontline? And Tavis Smiley?

199 posted on 10/05/2007 11:33:10 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
On September 30th, USS Nimitz and CVW-11 returned home, to San Diego. Among CVW-11’s squadrons was VAQ-135, Black Ravens, flying 5 EA-6B Prowlers.

http://www.naswi.navy.mil/vaq-135/VAQ-135%20Website.htm

200 posted on 10/06/2007 2:28:02 AM PDT by ryan71
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