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To: FastCoyote
Ummmm, I don’t believe that. But of course you have to set up bowling pins of styrofoam so they are lite enough for you to knock over. Okay, you get a brown star for effort.

You have my apology. I assumed you believed in the Bible. Since you don't believe in the bible what do you believe in?

Let’s see, he sets up an army and makes himself General, he calls a Council of 50 and has himself ordained King, he runs for the presidency and sends out campaigners (because he believes he has a chance in hell), he becomes in essence dictator of Nauvoo and posits a theocracy. Oh, he was a secessionist all right. But spin spin spin wash dry spin spin spin.

Are you on crack? Or off your Medication? Do you even realize just how well you are making my point?

Well yes. Joseph Smith was a crazy nutcase on an ego trip who when he lost his presidential bid would have no place to go but secession. And can you explain his being a General and being ordained king if he wasn’t trying to carve out his own little independent theocracy? So apparently you have provided signs of a lack of logical abilities right here for all to see.

Are you saying that Joseph Smith was ordained King of Nauvoo? Or the US? If you can document that I will bow to your superior knowledge and wisdom and never play games with your cabal again, but I am not holding my breath. For some reason I suspect more dissembling. LOL

Or, perhaps you were condemned for being a spinner of half truths and your huge ego was disproportionately hurt.

No, that would be you. Since I already taught you one new word today, I will teach you another. Look up projection : )

What is your real purpose?

To get a sane president who doesn’t have a God complex? I would think after all this time you could figure that out.

You do know the definition of insanity don't you? Doing the same thing time after time and expecting different results.

Do you really think you can elect a president who doesn't have a God complex? LOL

467 posted on 10/05/2007 8:59:13 AM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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To: LeGrande; Religion Moderator

LeGrande, in your past twenty-odd postings, you seem to have difficulty refraining from casting aspersions on others.

You ask, “Are you insane?” You ask, “Are you on crack?”

Don’t you believe in civil discourse?

Isn’t that one of the tenets of FR?


475 posted on 10/05/2007 9:09:44 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: LeGrande
The Council of 50 included non-mormons. It was set up to symboliccally represent the future Kingdom of God in the Millenium, but was to deal with secular matters. The Council of the Apostles still had the keys to the authority of the priesthood. It was pivotal in organizing the exodus and dividing the wagon trains into captains and what not. It was also pivotal in setting up the government in the utah territory. The Counciul recognized Jesus as "King of Kings" but did anoint Joseph Smith and later Brigham Young as a "king of the House of Israel". David was also annointed a King of Israel. It does not mean it supercedes the king of Kings. The bible differentiates between the earthly kings annointed by Prophets such as David and the King of Kings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_50

486 posted on 10/05/2007 9:44:07 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: LeGrande

“You have my apology. I assumed you believed in the Bible. Since you don’t believe in the bible what do you believe in?”

I do believe in the Bible, but I don’t see any dates in Genesis. I also believe God is rational, so facts are what they are. I believe you are an atheist thou, are you not?

“Are you on crack? Or off your Medication?”

Oh not that is clever wording. Did you think of that debate tactic yurself, or steal it from a fifth grader?

“Do you even realize just how well you are making my point?”

Joseph Smith was trying to carve out a theocracy separate from the rest of the US, he was a secessionist. Any rational person reading the history of Far West and Nauvoo
knows old Joe was a deluded narcissist well on the way to breaking away in a civil war. Brigam Young just carried out the plan.

“Are you saying that Joseph Smith was ordained King of Nauvoo? Or the US?”

Neither, he was ordained in secret to be king of an upcoming kingdom.

” If you can document that I will bow to your superior knowledge and wisdom and never play games with your cabal again, but I am not holding my breath. For some reason I suspect more dissembling. LOL”

You are asking for documentation of a guy who wrote the book of mormon off imaginary golden tablets left by the angel moroni??? bwahahahahahaahhaa!!!

Nevertheless, his ordination was witnessed by a key Mormon Elder (I’ll have to look him up, I’m at work). Why don’t you document the negative? But I forgot, Mormon apologists never document anything. Document the BOM, hahahahahahaha!

“You do know the definition of insanity don’t you? Doing the same thing time after time and expecting different results.”

You are so right, argung against Mormon apologists is insanity.


552 posted on 10/05/2007 5:03:32 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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