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27% of Republicans Would Vote for Pro-Life Third Party Instead of Giuliani (Proof Rudy CAN'T Win)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10-4-07 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:23 AM PDT by TitansAFC

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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Sure there is a difference. Rudy isn't trying to force socialist health care down our throats and promising to give every kid born here 5 grand. Hillary is a Neo-Commie.....
541 posted on 10/09/2007 8:09:30 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (Liberals are the enemy within)
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To: vin-one

agreed.. some of you folks are acting like babies..

if I don’t get 100 % of everything I want.. I’ll let Hillary become president..

childish..


542 posted on 10/09/2007 8:13:45 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: TitansAFC

Get used to it: “President Hillary Clinton”


543 posted on 10/09/2007 8:14:57 AM PDT by montag813 (1)
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To: Dudoight
“Yes...I think it is really hateful for a bunch of Christians to give this Nation another Clinton. It is arrogant and self righteous.”

Hillary is counting on you and your ilk to get her into office. She is NO dummy. She loves Dr. Dobson...he is her ticket to ride.

Let’s see. The pro-abortion crowd kicks the Christians and expects us to stay and vote for their man? I don’t think so. Any loss to Hillary will be the fault of those who threw the Christians off of the ship.

I have asked this question repeatedly of the Rudyites on this forum with no response: Can you show me on viable pro-life candidate who is not also for supporting the war on terror?

It just seems that having a pro-life candidate who is also engaged in the war on terror is the best way to placate you and me. Why is it that you are the only one who should win? Why should I lay down for you when we can both have a nation free from terror?

In reality, you are the one who is unwilling to compromise. The candidates I support would give us both a good battle against terrorism, and support life for babies.

544 posted on 10/09/2007 8:17:15 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: montag813
-—”Get used to it: “President Hillary Clinton”-—

“President Hillary Clinton”
“President Rudy911”

Both equally scare me, which is why that tired old boogeyman tactic doesn’t work in this case, nor will it ever. Rudy911 nullifies the effectiveness of the fear of Hillary.

Want to stop the thought of President Hillary? Find someone else but Rudy911.

545 posted on 10/09/2007 8:18:50 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: Jen's Mom
-—”Rudy isn’t trying to force socialist health care down our throats...”-—

Seriously? The man BOASTED of Universal Health Care in NY, thumping his chest about how they provide it even for illegal immigrants.

What planet have you been living on?

546 posted on 10/09/2007 8:21:37 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Please, don’t misunderstand, I admire principled people and understand totally the need to polish them, to admire them, and be comfortable in ones conscience.

And since we are all only human, our principles differ, and that’s OK, really.

My principle is to win. Ruthless and dirty action, instead of comfortable surrender.

Beating the commie vampire Dims into a pulp, to defeat the liberal UNAMERICAN party, who have sucked the lifeblood out of everything good in this country, who command enormous power in broadcast news, newspapers, mags, movies, TV, ALL levels of education, who have enemy moles leaking intell from our bureaucracies, and who have gained power by bribing Americans with tax money for votes, for decades.

My principles consist of destroying them, hanging them, and freeing this nation from the propaganda grip of the MSM. And I will support anyone who is Right of them.

547 posted on 10/09/2007 8:34:56 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: TitansAFC
Both equally scare me, which is why that tired old boogeyman tactic doesn’t work in this case, nor will it ever.

You misunderstood. I am not a Rudy supporter. I am just coming to the conclusion that Clinton's election is inevitable. The stars are aligned everywhere you look, from the GOP disarray, to Bush's incompetance, to the RAT takeover of Congress, to the MSM's coming coronation of the "First Woman President".

548 posted on 10/09/2007 8:35:11 AM PDT by montag813 (1)
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To: Fawn
-—”Please...anyone that votes for a 3rd party instead of the Republican nominee has NO Interest in trying to get Conservative judges appointed or a Conservative agenda.
They have purposely elected the Democrat and put the system (with their personal interests like abortion, marriage, etc) in the pockets of liberals.
They are hypocrits.”-—

Rudy911 is actually the preferred candidate of the Pro-Abortion crowd, they endorsed him over Hillary even in the Senate run. Either one will give us fervently Pro-Abortion judges.

No, I would say that the hypocrites are the ones who blast candidates for filing junk lawsuits, opposing Federalism in practice, making sanctuary cities for illegal aliens, appointing Liberal judges, supporting Hate Crimes Legislation, Supporting the Fairness Doctrine, opposing school vouchers and Welfare Reform, providing taxpayer funding of Abortion, endorsing Liberal Democrats for office, speaking before the most extreme leftist groups in the country like NOW, NARAL, and GLAAD, imposing homosexual rights,......and then going out to vote for one and demanding support for that candidate.

You are the hypocrite, not me. By every measurable standard, you are the one being hypocritical.

549 posted on 10/09/2007 8:41:55 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Perhaps you let your hysteria cloud your ability to reason and /or read.
I said nothing about Rudy being a conservative. I do not like him. Nor do I like Arnold.They are wrong on many issues.
However, I will not vote for a 3rd party candidate.
If, at the end of the day, there are 2 candidates and one of them is Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama, John Edwards,(etc.) and the other is the “republican” ( notice that does not say conservative) I will vote for the republican as plainly it is the one with whom I at least have some chance of having some influence.
550 posted on 10/09/2007 8:45:49 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: montag813
-—”You misunderstood. I am not a Rudy supporter. I am just coming to the conclusion that Clinton’s election is inevitable. The stars are aligned everywhere you look, from the GOP disarray, to Bush’s incompetance, to the RAT takeover of Congress, to the MSM’s coming coronation of the “First Woman President”.”-—

Sigh. I get the same feeling. There is an immovable force vs. irresistible object thing going on with Rudy911 and Conservatives like me who would never, ever vote for him. And the media will side with Hillary over any of the other GOPers - which normally does not scare me, but considering the mood of the country right now and the GOP’s suicidal tendencies under the current “let’s move left now before it’s too late” battleplan.

Maybe we can pull it off, but it's going to take something like a Fred push or a late Romney run to get the party unified for 2008.

551 posted on 10/09/2007 8:46:46 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC

You are wrong and make no sense. You don’t even know who I want—personally. However, I know that the people who are going to sit home or vote 3rd party if it’s Rudy ARE hypocrits.


552 posted on 10/09/2007 8:55:38 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: Fawn

-—”However, I know that the people who are going to sit home or vote 3rd party if it’s Rudy ARE hypocrits.”-—

Then you do not know the meaning of the word. Not supporting a Liberal who has been an activist against our dearest causes is called “being consistent,” not “hypocritical.” If it was wrong to support a democrat who did it, it’s wrong to support a Republican who did it. Rudy911 once described himself as “one of the most effective abortion rights activists in America” before a NARAL meeting. He was right.

And I’m pretty sure you’re a Rudophile. But you’re right, I don’t know that 100% - yet.


553 posted on 10/09/2007 10:02:46 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: roses of sharon

“And I will support anyone who is Right of them.”

That’s just it. Rudy is not in the least to the right of the Dems. He holds all the same views that Hillary does. I don’t see any difference.

We conservatives thought we had it made when we had a Republican president and majorities in the Senate and the House. What happened? They went on a spending, vote-buying spree that would make a Kennedy blush. And those were the ones who promised to usher in a new day of limited government when they were elected! Rudy doesn’t even give it lip service. No thanks. I would rather have a Dem president and a Republican Congress, than a Republican RHINO in the White House. At least if we have gridlock, Hill’s plans might be thwarted.


554 posted on 10/09/2007 12:05:56 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Bainbridge

That is certainly your right to do so. However, once they are elected, our influence is almost nil. As an example, there is Bush and the immigration issue. I would rather have a Republican Congress and a Dem president, than a RHINO president. At least then, the Republicans might stand up and fight.


555 posted on 10/09/2007 12:07:59 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX
those were the ones who promised to usher in a new day

They did, too. For about a day.

556 posted on 10/09/2007 12:09:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
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To: RightWhale

LOL. I stand corrected.

I begin to think that one day’s worth of hope is about all we can expect from politics.


557 posted on 10/09/2007 12:12:57 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

Bookmarking.


558 posted on 10/09/2007 12:16:48 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Preachin'

You just don’t get it.

I don’t want Rudy...I Huckabee. I am NOT going to get what I want.

But I am terrified of Hillary.

And I will vote for anything they put up as the GOP nominee in hopes of keeping Hillary out.

I would bet that most of the people on this forum are not FOR Guiliani...the big worry is getting Hillary.

I can’t imagine that getting Hillary would be BETTER than stowing your Christian Hubris in order to keep her out. Just because the GOP doesn’t kiss your ring YOU are going to SHOW them. Whew...good thinking kid! To hell with what happens to our country. I HATE where the republicans have gone...I feel betrayed. But I am going to keep Hillary out of the white house if I can.

WAKE UP, Preacher, you and Dr. Dobson.


559 posted on 10/09/2007 12:40:22 PM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Pining_4_TX
And what on earth makes you think that you are going to get anything Republican?
These are make believe arguments.
560 posted on 10/09/2007 1:14:26 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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