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1 posted on 10/04/2007 6:43:44 AM PDT by presidio9
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Yawn... push poll. The “inevitability factor” again.


2 posted on 10/04/2007 6:45:15 AM PDT by rhombus
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America had a fairly conservative President for two terms elected by a landslide.
Followed by a one term moderate.
Followed by a two term left wing traitor which some think was conservative.
Followed by a two term moderate that squeaked by because the democrat nominees were so bad.
So some people think the RNC should nominate a far left wing that could only win if the democrat is much worse.

The RNC should nominate a real conservative and watch him Win in a landslide!


3 posted on 10/04/2007 6:45:36 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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The poll also showed that two-thirds of voters believe Clinton would take the country in a different direction compared with her husband during his 1993-2001 presidency, with most considering that "a good thing."

WTF?

4 posted on 10/04/2007 6:46:00 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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"Clinton would take the country in a different direction"

Well, they got THAT right:


5 posted on 10/04/2007 6:47:03 AM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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in a Washington Post-ABC News poll

nuff said

6 posted on 10/04/2007 6:47:28 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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If Hillie’s lead is so overwhelming, her election so inevitable, why then do they feel the need to keep coming out with more “proof”?


8 posted on 10/04/2007 6:49:16 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: presidio9; Liz; TommyDale; calcowgirl; TitansAFC

When people get a choice of a liberal over a liberal, they always choose the liberal.


9 posted on 10/04/2007 6:50:07 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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The poll showed Democrat voters favoring Clinton over Giuliani by 88-9 percent

So much for the Rootybot meme that Rooty would put Blue States in play. With Rooty it's Hillary in an Electoral landslide.

The mutt should just go away, to some deserted island where he can be King, Czar, 'Supreme Leader' (Oberster Führer), Caesar, etc. etc.

13 posted on 10/04/2007 6:55:07 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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With 49% unfavorability ratings this poll postulates she will garner every voter who hasn’t already said they dislike her. Not likely.


14 posted on 10/04/2007 6:59:07 AM PDT by saganite
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Clinton? No. Damn near anyone else. Yes. I can’t stand Julie Anne.


17 posted on 10/04/2007 7:13:54 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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And no bias in the poll, of course.


18 posted on 10/04/2007 7:19:59 AM PDT by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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Screw Rudith. I’ll never vote for it.

If Hillary’s running mate is Satan, I will not vote for the leftwing mayor. I am fine with any other GOP nominee.


19 posted on 10/04/2007 7:20:16 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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hildebeast has too high of negative numbers to break 50%. 10% of Republicans were not for rootie... and they damn sure were not for hildebeast... so they represent Republicans like me that WILL NEVER VOTE FOR rootie. I guess rootie supporters had better wake up and smell the coffee... having said that... this poll is probably a skewed poll to help ‘toon with her momentum that is nonexistent!

LLS

21 posted on 10/04/2007 7:23:31 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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says who?????


28 posted on 10/04/2007 7:30:10 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Fred Thompson/Duncan Hunter 08; English is the American Language....)
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I am trying to find the methodology for that particular poll but can’t find it. If it’s anything like their other polls then it’s pretty much bogus. It’s a random sample of 1,114 people and not a sample of likely voters or voters. And they add another 212 people who are black for a total of 1326 voters with a guarantee of at least 15% black.

What kind of poll is that? Try asking a ramdom sample of VOTERS and then see what you get. The results will be quite different and no way will Hillary be in the lead.

(this is not the poll but it shows their probable methodology for that poll)
Washington Post-ABC News Poll
The Washington Post-ABC News
Monday, October 1, 2007//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_100107.html


35 posted on 10/04/2007 7:34:10 AM PDT by avacado
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Yep, meaningless. The media wants a Hill-rudy battle, but it won’t happen. Fred or Mitt will be the nominee.


38 posted on 10/04/2007 7:36:37 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I was watching the final episode of “The War” on PBS the other night, what an incredible documentary by Ken Burns and his crew. I was fascinated when they showed the Americans liberating one of the concentration camps and pulling the Germans out of the town and forcing them to bury the stacks of corpses. Though the stench of death was clearly evident, they claimed they didn’t really know what was going on in that “camp” outside of town ?

I thought about the power of propaganda when combined with apathy. Though many Germans had a sense of what was going on in the camps spread across Europe, most found it easier to believe what the MSM was telling them, easier than looking into the real facts and trying to unravel the lies.

I giggled to myself when I remember how many people today, say that could never happen again. But it is happening again. Not the horror of the death camps, but the ability of propaganda to manipulate mass opinion. That evil is even more strident today in America than it was in Hitler’s Germany.

I couldn’t help but think of Hillary Clinton’s machine, how it makes the German propaganda machine look so small and primitive. As I watched those Germans, so stunned and horrifed, marching into the camp, I thought about all the people in this country who are too busy with their lives, blah, blah, blah to believe anything else but what they are spoon-fed by the MSM 24 /7. The people in that little German town were bakers, doctors, teachers, mechanics, store owners, etc., a typical cross section of any town in terms of education and intelligence, but they didn’t take the time to believe anything outside of what they were told day in and day out.

I wondered if I was looking at the future of America, a long parade of stunned and horrified Americans who were walking through the ruins of a once great country, wondering “How could this have happened ?”

The Clintons, both of them, are vile and odious human beings. Even a brief review of their years in power clearly disqualify them from any further office of public trust. And yet America is buying the package. And if enough Americans sit back and buy the lie, elect this unqualified hack, like the Germans, we will get exactly what we deserve.

41 posted on 10/04/2007 7:39:13 AM PDT by Beatthedrum
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What a few NYers think of the Socialist Queen...

NOT-SO-BABY STEPS FOR HILL'S BIG GOV'T NY POST Letters to the Editor

October 3, 2007 -- "Hill's $20B Babies" (Sept. 29) confirms that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's hiring of expensive media and political consultants who try to position her as a moderate has failed.

She has finally come out of the closet to reveal her true liberal philosophy: supporting continued growth of big government by increasing taxes and spending for all sorts of new programs.

What's next? Uncle Sam offering every child $100 whenever they leave a tooth under the pillow?

Intelligent parents purchase savings bonds, take advantage of numerous other investment options already available that provide tax deductions or just set up a simple savings accounts to plan for their children's future.

Larry Penner
Great Neck
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After reading about Clinton's idea to give each American newborn a $5,000 baby bond, it looks like if she wins the presidency, she will not only be our first woman president, she will also be our first socialist president.

Howard Feldman
The Bronx

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The junior senator from New York has more gall than brains, trying to buy votes by giving away the taxpayers' money to every American newborn.

Does that include the offspring of illegal aliens as well? Rather than slip her hand into the taxpayers' pockets, she can start this brainless idea with the dough that she got from Norman Hsu.

Jerome Levenberg
Cedarhurst

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The spread of socialism continues relentlessly in America, a country built on natural law, free enterprise and self-determination.

The Democrats' plan to increase the government's roles via the SCHIP and Clinton's baby bonds is nothing more than another ploy to gain greater control of our lives.

And how incredibly stupid are people to give credence to their emotional appeal for the children?

"How can you deny health for children?" is what they say, as if children and the poor can only stay healthy through their programs.

George Orwell may have been off a bit with the timeline, but 1984 is coming faster than we think.

Peter Marengo
Croton on Hudson

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Clinton's proposal is not pandering. This plan, as with her government-funded health care, is nothing more than voter-buying.

Will the mother have to be married to the baby's father to receive the bond? I doubt it.

If the cost of college continues to rise, by the time the bond matures, it will only buy lunch for a semester at many universities.

Andy Romanic
Freeport

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Clinton's silly ideas show how we're getting closer to a socialistic America - when, over in Europe, the Germans and French are becoming more like capitalists.

Watch out, America. We're in for a bumpy ride from the Democrats.

Albert Turner
Manhattan

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The critics of Clinton's baby plan are not aware of her secret plan to fund it.

She'll probably appoint Hsu as secretary of the Treasury.

Michael Brozinsky
Central Islip

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Now that Clinton suggests $5,000 for every newborn child without telling us how it's to be funded, what's next?

A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage?

Clinton sounds awfully Hooverish, and I'm not talking vacuum cleaners.

Herb Stark
Massapequa

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I love the fact that Clinton went public with her idea. Now everybody can see what a complete fool this woman is.

Clinton has no business occupying the democratically elected office of president because she's not a Democrat - she's a die-hard socialist.

She's constantly turning out reinventions of herself, and now she wants to reinvent America.

Democracy works just fine here and has for more than 200 years.

Tom Cahill
Jackson Heights

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Christmas is coming early this year, and Saint Hillary has a present for all those bundles of joy.

Clinton will be paying society to produce children not wealth, and we will all go to the poor house - a socialist's dream.

Gary Schwartz
Fort Lee, N.J.
50 posted on 10/04/2007 7:54:23 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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Rush: But I'm telling you, you put Mrs. Clinton in the White House, and every damn one of these little minions and all these little organizations of hers that are out trying to destroy her enemies right now are going to be given high-government positions to do their investigations and their seek-and-destroy missions from high-government positions. Make no mistake, this is the bunch that had 500 FBI files during their eight years, make no mistake that that's what's happening here. You can choose to believe it or ignore it. It's tough to face. "Gosh, I didn't think it would be this bad." It is. It portends a real problem.
62 posted on 10/04/2007 8:43:45 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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Senator Clinton, wife of ex-president Bill Clinton and the strong front-runner for the Democratic nomination for next year's election, held a 51-43 percent margin over Giuliani in a Washington Post-ABC News poll.

The poll showed Democrat voters favoring Clinton over Giuliani by 88-9 percent while independents were for Clinton 48-44 percent. Republican voters preferred Giuliani, the former New York City mayor, 88-10 percent.

Running those together, and it's plain they oversampled Dims by a considerable amount. Wonder what the internals show.

96 posted on 10/04/2007 4:01:49 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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