Posted on 10/03/2007 7:03:51 AM PDT by traviskicks
Edited on 10/03/2007 7:51:05 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
So, I’m a Ronbot. According to certain denizens of the web lurking in their shadowy corners of the blogosphere, there are many of us Ronbots out there, but not too many. No, if there were too many if us, if we were more than say one or two percent of the population, then that would shatter the world view of some of these Internet denizens. We are a small Ronbot army, somehow controlled by this mystical deity and granted the magical ability to be able to hijack Internet, phone and other polls meant to give viewers of debates a voice of who won said debate. Come to think of it, according to some pundits, there are only a few of us who are very smart and know how to spam these polls. Ok, ok, I admit it, I’m the only real Ron Paul supporter and I’ve been creating all this hubbub and spam on my old turbo charged Atari 800 computer.
But seriously, think about this term Ronbot for a minute. It’s a term some clever blogomatic coined in an attempt to minimize the power of Ron Paul’s message. It’s a term that intimates that Ron Paul supporters aren’t real people, that they are some form of mindless zombie sent into the cyber world to disrupt and distract from the normal operations of the Internet. It’s meant to suggest that Ron Paul supporters have been programmed by his campaign to infiltrate the Internet encampments of the establishment and shake them up a little. What strikes me as ironic is that Ron Paul detractors will accuse his supporters of blindly following without thought, when it seems to me it is they who have blindly followed the establishment for years without question. It is they who continue to follow the leader down the road paved with corporate dollars as they support one candidate or another who get the majority of their contributions from special interests. They are the ones supporting candidates that have been bought and paid for by the corporate elite. They are the ones supporting the candidacies of the very rich who know nothing of what it’s like to struggle to earn a living.
There is something else that seems to be happening. On the streets, real people with real lives are showing their support for Ron Paul. These are not keyboard pundits sitting behind their monitors hurtling insults into cyber space at those who disagree with them, these are men and women with real jobs and real families making real decisions about their future. They don’t want the government in it. They want to make their own choices. They want real freedom. I’ve talked to people. I’ve talked to the mechanic at the oil change place. I’ve talked to the farmer in the waiting room there. I’ve talked to the clerk behind the counter at the drugstore. I’ve talked to my coworkers. These are common folk, but they still have their dreams. They have silently pledged their support for Ron. They understand his message and realize it is a message of hope and of positive change. They realize that the best thing for the common good, the best way to protect our children and their progeny, is to respect the individual’s rights and the God given freedoms spelled out for us in the constitution. They understand that it is best for all concerned for the United States of America stop trying to be an empire, to stop building nations, to end the wars, and to bring its soldiers home. These are not Ronbots, but they are the politically dispossessed that the system and the pundits have left out of the equation. They are the people the talking heads on TV are forgetting about when they spew out their artificially low numbers in their poll results. How else is it that Ron Paul could win or place in so many straw polls if not for such people? How else is it he could raise so much money so quickly without corporate backing? That’s what Ron Paul detractors don’t get, that he is more than just some Internet phenomenon due to fade. He is the real choice of the real common man, not the choice thrust upon on by the elite, self appointed guardians of the American body politic. Real people with real brains who are able to make real choices like his message of a limited, less intrusive federal government that follows the mandates set forth by our founding fathers in the Bill of Rights instead of dictating to us what to think and do. Now that they finally have a candidate that espouses these views instead of pandering to try to be everything to everyone, they are going to support him.
The people using the term Ronbot will in the same breath use the same tired old axioms that have gone unquestioned for far too long to support a policy of war, or of taxes, or of any number of socialistic policies meant to tie down the common man and keep his face pressed to the teat of mommy government. These people have been arguing conservative v liberal in meaningless blogs and now that a candidate shows up with a substantive message of restoring individual liberty, individual responsibility and governmental non-interference in both the markets and personal lives, a message that tears apart both liberal and conservative paradigms, a message that the common man can truly back, they call foul. They cry, “Get out of our face. Don’t come around here screaming about individual liberty and responsibility. We don’t want to hear it. We want the government to take our money and spend it on the war. We want the government to take care of us. We want the government to tax us to the max so we can have free health care. We want to be told what to do. We want to give up our freedom so the terrorist boogie-men don’t get us. We want to be shaken down in the airport by TSA agents. We want dissenters corralled into free speech zones where we don’t have to hear them. Please keep the status quo. We don’t want the government to change. We want the government to decide for us. We’re scared of freedom.” Well now you are going to hear it. The message is being shouted from the rooftops now that a viable candidate is touting that message. It is reverberating across the country and as more people hear and understand it, more people add their voices to the chorus until soon the song will come to a crescendo and we will bring a true measure of freedom back to this country. That, my friends, is not the clamoring of a few mindless followers known as Ronbots, that is the roar of an oncoming tidal wave crashing upon the shores of 21st century America carrying an ideal that was born over two hundred and thirty years ago, an ideal that was thought lost in the socialistic propaganda of the last century but is quickly re-emerging with a force to be reckoned with. The concept of freedom is not easily held back, and given time it will swell and wash away the sands of fascism and socialism that seek to contain it.
I am not a bot of any kind. I have been a believer in freedom and liberty since I can remember. I have been writing about freedom oriented themes since before I even heard of Ron Paul. My writings are archived and available for all to see. I don’t write about Ron Paul because he’s running for president, I write about him because he embodies the ideas I believe in, ideas that made this nation great. I have no delusions that he will obtain office and everything will magically change. He is just one man trying to achieve a position of power that is supposed to be held in check by many other men. He would need the support of many more in congress before smaller government and the repeal of oppressive laws could be accomplished. His supporters would not only have to vote for him as president in 2008, but would also have to vote in other freedom oriented candidates as their representatives and senators. If nothing else, Ron Paul’s candidacy has given us the opportunity to once again discuss the issues of freedom and liberty both in the marketplace and in our personal lives. It would be a wonderful thing to see America once again become a beacon of freedom, a place where one can live by one’s own will without the oppressive yolk of government dragging one down. A Ron Paul presidency would at least be a good start.
For twenty years Dennis Kucinich has been gaining traction (sarc)in the democrat party and he is still in single digits. I’m afraid that is what Ron Paul will become. I respect most of the Ron Paul supporters and agree with a lot that they say but I hope they are not betting the farm on his candidacy. I also have serious doubts that they will do what they want us to do and support whoever the nominee is.
‘Just curious. Would you support a third party if Paul somehow won the nomination, even if it meant a possible Hillary victory? ‘
If Ron Paul won the GOP nomination, the Republican party deserves Hillary Clinton as President.
We see it the same way.
I understood what you were trying to say.
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The GOP Plot to Defeat Ron Paul
Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=49739&fb=1
NEWS ANALYSIS AND OPINION
It is not enough that seemingly every state that can is desperately moving up primary contest dates to as close to January 1, 2008 as possible in the hopes of derailing the momentum that presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-Tex) will derive from a good New Hampshire finish. Now the GOP in many states has apparently taken to shutting down the possibility that Independents or Democrats can vote for Ron Paul in the GOP primary.
Such contests, inviting a broad electoral spectrum, have taken place in the past without controversy or interference.
Why now? What is the hurry? Is it all coincidence?
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Gambling911.com reports today
http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-New-Voting-Rules-100307.html
Many states, in an effort to shut out Ron Paul are now closing their primaries. That means that only Republicans can vote in the Presidential primaries for a Republican candidate. Many states are doing this quickly and quietly and giving people very little time to learn about the new rules. For example, New Hampshire decided only a week ago that you will now have to change your party affiliation by October 12, 2007 or it will be too late to do so. New Hampshire also has a closed primary and only Republicans and possibly Independents will be allowed to vote for Ron Paul.
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The moves of the GOP, and those behind the GOP, to thwart a possible Ron Paul victory nationwide are, in fact, astonishing – especially since, were Ron Paul were to win the nomination, he would be a considerable challenge to any major Democratic candidate and have a good chance to win the presidency.
What is happening in modern American politics, thanks to Ron Paul, is therefore unheard of, significant, extraordinary. The bosses of a major, American political party are apparently willing to do anything in terms of the electoral mechanism itself to defeat the candidate - their own candidate - who likely has the best chance of taking the White House.
Yes, it seems clear. The GOP - whose Old Guard core has been revealed to be as expansionistic and spendthrift as its Democratic "opponents" - would rather ensure Ron Paul's defeat than win a national presidential election. The disconnect between the GOP, its former claim to the party of modest government and the people that support it is becoming a fissure, and, over time, a gap as wide as the Grand Canyon.
Unlike in previous elections, because of the Internet it is fairly easy to track what is actually taking place. No longer can the power elite “steal” the election through rigged voting mechanism and suddenly created electoral rules without anyone noticing. While the mainstream media report the rush to move primaries forward as a disconnected reality - a game that pols play to one-up each other - those who wish to observe cause-and-effect will see a far more serious set of circumstances in play.
Ron Paul is a Jeffersonian conservative who believes America's over-reaching, voracious, bloody 20th century empire is not constitutional. He believes in limited government and does not wish for America to be entangled in foreign wars. He is an American citizen of the kind who informed the electorate up until the early 20th century. The effect of his campaign, no matter what happens now, will be to spawn millions like him, educated about the fundamentals of a Republican constitutional government in the best sense. From this point of view, Ron Paul has already had his victory. Yet the primaries have not yet begun.
FMNN has long held, that were Ron Paul's message to take hold, the election cycle, both Democratic and Republican, would turn on defeating a man the mainstream media still characterizes as a second tier GOP candidate.
That prediction seems to be becoming true.
Second tier? Here is a question: How much does Ron Paul threaten the Old Guard? Answer: The GOP (and now even Democrats, perhaps) would rather ensure Ron Paul's defeat in the primaries, than have him run and win the presidency.
He'll also become 92.
Harold Stassen ran for President for over 40 years and live to 93 or 94
I wish him well, but he's not a serious candidate.
Neither the Dems or Republicans aren’t ensuring his defeat in the primaries. He’s doing a great job of doing that on his own. Most people I know are just ignoring Ron Paul.
well Guiliani called and he wants his pink dress back...
I think the pig would look better in it.
More for the kooky tin-foil hat crowd
Becoming????
Libertarianism as defined by the modern “Libertarian” party is simply codified infantalism.
Thank you for your honesty. I'd rather keep her out of the oval office, however, and, given the 2006 debacle, Ron Paul is the only hope to accomplish this goal.
You're insane.
If Ron Paul won the GOP nomination, the Republican party deserves Hillary Clinton as President
“Thank you for your honesty. I’d rather keep her out of the oval office, however, and, given the 2006 debacle, Ron Paul is the only hope to accomplish this goal.”
Ron Paul can’t win the GOP primaries, so its a moot point...and would be an unmitigated disaster as the Presidential nominee.
He’s the only way Clinton wins in my view. He makes her look ‘sane’.
>> I’ve criticised him for his stance and explanation on earnmarks, his use of the word ‘neocon’, and aspects of his ‘gold standard’, immigration, and foreign policy to name a few.
Then why are you supporting him? I can certainly understand sticking with someone when you disagree with his earmarks, terminology, the gold standard, and even POSSIBLY immigration ... but foreign policy is a dealbreaker for me.
Ultimately, foreign policy is the primary reason I think Ron Paul would be an entirely inept President, and a poor flagbearer for the conservative movement. His foreign policy stances are entirely naive, and would probably be granted a warmer welcome on DU than it will here.
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Doesn't take 'magic'. . .just available time.
Geez, these Ronbots are such loons.
And, given the 2006 loses, why do you believe that a pro-war candidate can beat Hillary? Are you willing to live with four more years of Hillary in exchange for supporting a quixotic pro-war candidate?
I said I disagreed with ‘aspects’, meaning mostly small things here and there.
I think domestic policy is more important than foreign policy, im not one that believes we are going to be under ‘sharia’ law anytime soon regardless of who is president, i don’t give the terrorist and islamists that much respect...
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