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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; najida
so many wonderful women who have refused to be subservient to men

Women shouldn't be subservient to men. But, a great many if not most of the problems plaguing so many (broken) families would not exist if (1) husbands would love their wives, in part by not shirking the responsibilities as heads of their families, and (2) wives would be submissive to their husbands.

As others have mentioned, when men stopped being responsible men, women naturally and understandably turned to government to meet their needs. ("Nature abhors a vacuum" and the best politicians see those opportunities.)

105 posted on 10/03/2007 11:03:36 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer
Heck,
I’m not married (2 for 2 dead and buried)...
I’m at this delightful matriarchal crone stage of my life....The elder female of the clan so to speak.

Me? Submissive?

Heck no, never could be (the submissive females around me were pretty much destroyed, so I vowed that wouldn’t be my path).

But dammit, I still vote conservative...because freedom to be a b!tch is more important than the security of being a pet.

108 posted on 10/03/2007 11:12:20 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: newgeezer; najida
"Women shouldn't be subservient to men. But, a great many if not most of the problems plaguing so many (broken) families would not exist if (1) husbands would love their wives, in part by not shirking the responsibilities as heads of their families, and (2) wives would be submissive to their husbands.

As others have mentioned, when men stopped being responsible men, women naturally and understandably turned to government to meet their needs. ("Nature abhors a vacuum" and the best politicians see those opportunities.)

I am not submissive to anyone including my husband....unless we are playing that game some night.

We are a team and we make decisions together. Us against the world.

112 posted on 10/03/2007 11:21:03 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: newgeezer
when men stopped being responsible men, women naturally and understandably turned to government to meet their needs

When government started telling women that they would be supported by the government if they didn't have a man around, men stopped being responsible men.

"Nature abhors a vacuum" and the best politicians see those opportunities

Politicians created the replacement to push the man out of the responsible/provider position, making more people dependent on the politicians, ensuring their power.

115 posted on 10/03/2007 11:35:32 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: newgeezer

I like the way you think.....I love that Ann gives us this great stuff to gnash over....

Wideawakes must be mighty lonely joint these days....I see the once angry and resolute are trickling back...being an anti-freeper is boring


126 posted on 10/03/2007 1:41:14 PM PDT by wardaddy (if God is your co-pilot, you need to switch seats)
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